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		By: Sean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2017 02:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;La Raza’s slogan or motto:

Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada. Translated: For the Race everything. Outside the Race nothing.&lt;/i&gt;

Are you serious? F*ckin&#039; lol. And here even I thought I was being hyperbolic when I said these people were just brown-skinned Nazis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>La Raza’s slogan or motto:</p>
<p>Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada. Translated: For the Race everything. Outside the Race nothing.</i></p>
<p>Are you serious? F*ckin&#8217; lol. And here even I thought I was being hyperbolic when I said these people were just brown-skinned Nazis.</p>
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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2017 03:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trum is so not tired of winning yet that people online are talking about Civil War 2, half a decade too late as it so happens.

It&#039;s all part of the planned opposition plan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trum is so not tired of winning yet that people online are talking about Civil War 2, half a decade too late as it so happens.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all part of the planned opposition plan.</p>
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		By: Hauke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hauke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just to give info on your point #5, and to show that Trump was right, that there were patriots (i.e. good people) duped into attending the Charlottesville Riot: (a call into the Chris Salcedo show, the &quot;Liberty Lovin&#039; Latino&quot;)
https://audioboom.com/posts/6210585-8-16-morning-news-lee?t=63

Noone should call this guy Lee and the mixed-race group of friends he went with racist.

(wanted to comment earlier, but it took me time to remember where I had heard the call, and also to find and post it)

Thanks for your wisdom over the years, Neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to give info on your point #5, and to show that Trump was right, that there were patriots (i.e. good people) duped into attending the Charlottesville Riot: (a call into the Chris Salcedo show, the &#8220;Liberty Lovin&#8217; Latino&#8221;)<br />
<a href="https://audioboom.com/posts/6210585-8-16-morning-news-lee?t=63" rel="nofollow ugc">https://audioboom.com/posts/6210585-8-16-morning-news-lee?t=63</a></p>
<p>Noone should call this guy Lee and the mixed-race group of friends he went with racist.</p>
<p>(wanted to comment earlier, but it took me time to remember where I had heard the call, and also to find and post it)</p>
<p>Thanks for your wisdom over the years, Neo.</p>
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		By: Danioton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The selective indignation over Charlottesville in this last news cycle: Trump undertakes an even-handed denunciation of all bad on any side perpetrating violence and a mob frenzy takes hold stoked by people like Mr. Lemon and CNN above. However, all throughout Obama&#039;s eight years not once did he ever denounce La Raza and not once did CNN ever call him on it and they certainly never focused on this racist organization in our midst.  To the contrary, he and they welcomed La Raza into their coalition either ignoring their KKK like hard core racist elements or covering for them.  
La Raza&#039;s slogan or motto: 

Por La Raza todo.  Fuera de La Raza nada.  Translated:  For the Race everything.  Outside the Race nothing.

We should denounce all of these groups - KKK, La Raza, Nazi&#039;s, Antifa.  Selectively doing so for political gain is deplorable, and that&#039;s been going on for some time.

For months now hard core nut jobs on the Left, Antifa, have been organizing violent attacks on peaceful lawful gatherings by conservatives.  These have been far beyond anything the KKK or Nazi groups have even attempted.  The Antifa people are far more numerous than the KKK/Nazi&#039;s.  When the KKK/Nazi&#039;s come out of the dark and show themselves they don&#039;t gain support.  And if Antifa had the same attention focused on them this assault from the Left on the civil rights of the Amercian people would be snuffed out as quickly.ï»¿]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The selective indignation over Charlottesville in this last news cycle: Trump undertakes an even-handed denunciation of all bad on any side perpetrating violence and a mob frenzy takes hold stoked by people like Mr. Lemon and CNN above. However, all throughout Obama&#8217;s eight years not once did he ever denounce La Raza and not once did CNN ever call him on it and they certainly never focused on this racist organization in our midst.  To the contrary, he and they welcomed La Raza into their coalition either ignoring their KKK like hard core racist elements or covering for them.<br />
La Raza&#8217;s slogan or motto: </p>
<p>Por La Raza todo.  Fuera de La Raza nada.  Translated:  For the Race everything.  Outside the Race nothing.</p>
<p>We should denounce all of these groups &#8211; KKK, La Raza, Nazi&#8217;s, Antifa.  Selectively doing so for political gain is deplorable, and that&#8217;s been going on for some time.</p>
<p>For months now hard core nut jobs on the Left, Antifa, have been organizing violent attacks on peaceful lawful gatherings by conservatives.  These have been far beyond anything the KKK or Nazi groups have even attempted.  The Antifa people are far more numerous than the KKK/Nazi&#8217;s.  When the KKK/Nazi&#8217;s come out of the dark and show themselves they don&#8217;t gain support.  And if Antifa had the same attention focused on them this assault from the Left on the civil rights of the Amercian people would be snuffed out as quickly.ï»¿</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 04:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just when you think... (accessed via links at LibertyUnyielding today)

http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/08/18/just-thought-hunt-vestiges-confederacy-couldnt-get-dumber/

&quot;Just when you thought the hunt for vestiges of the Confederacy couldn’t get any dumber&quot;

The Antifas think an they have found a stealth-flag that&#039;s 100 years old and not related to the Civil War in any way.
&quot;It’s a section of a mosaic tile frieze found in the Times Square subway station in New York City. &quot;

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19861/oops-antifa-protesters-vandalized-peace-monument-emily-zanotti#

&quot;Unfortunately for Antifa, who were clearly to busy opposing fascism to read a plaque at the base of the monument (which is printed with the words, &quot;Cease firing, peace is priceless,”) or do any basic Google research, what they thought was a pro-Confederate memorial turned out to be a monument to peace.

&lt;b&gt;The statue, which depicts an angel guiding a Confederate soldier to lay down his arms, was erected in 1911, well after the Civil War, and a part of an organized effort in Atlanta to encourage peace and healing &lt;/b&gt;in the wake of a bloody and destructive era in the state&#039;s history.&quot;

And not everyone is buying the MediaLeft&#039;s Kool-Aid:

http://conservativefiringline.com/eyewitness-confirms-left-wing-protesters-used-acid-rocks-police-charlottesville-nothing-video/

&quot;In an exclusive interview with the Conservative Firing Line on Thursday, Denise Freeman, a former registered nurse (RN) from North Carolina who was literally in the middle of the melee that took place in Charlottesville, Virginia, confirmed that leftist protesters were extremely violent, hurling rocks, eggs, frozen water bottles, urine, feces and what she believes to be battery acid.

Freeman went to Charlottesville as part of a contingent from the APV (American Pit Vipers) III Percenter organization.  According to Freeman, the group was there after having contacted local law enforcement and did not take sides in the protest.

Freeman, who said she has a Puerto Rican son, was up-front in saying that she disavows the alt-right groups, including the KKK and the white nationalists who participated in the “Unite the Right” rally.  She also expressed similar sentiments about the far-left Antifa counter-protesters.

She chose to go, she said, because of her belief in the First Amendment right to free speech and free assembly, saying that it extends to both sides, even if she disagrees with their point of view.

“We’re not affiliated with either side,” she said.

Her job was to provide assistance to anyone who might need medical attention.

And, it turns out, her services were needed – by both sides in the the fight.

Freeman told me she and her colleagues pulled and treated injured protesters from both sides, sometimes working in the middle of the street as combatants clashed around her.  In all, she said, they treated well over two dozen people. At one point, they attended over 5 people at one time in the street.

Meanwhile, she added, “my boys were holding people off.”
...
Freeman explained that she and her comrades feared being attacked by both sides, and had to maintain “situational awareness,” but&lt;b&gt; it turned out that they had much more to fear from the liberal protesters who, she said, were far more violent than the white nationalists.

“I don’t know of anyone attacked by the alt-right,” she said “All of the violence was from the Antifa side.”&lt;/b&gt;

That’s not to say the alt-right didn’t start fights.  Freeman said both sides initiated conflict with the other at times, but the leftists were far more violent.

And, she recalled,&lt;b&gt; the level of respect shown to her and her group was quite different between the two sides, with the alt-right being far more respectful &lt;/b&gt;than the Antifa counter-protesters.&quot;

(A curious observation about Right v Left even when both are alt-ed; compare Tea Party to OWS)

http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/08/18/black-christian-leaders-come-together-defend-trump-charlottesville-violence/

&quot;While some, like Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer, have claimed that there is a “direct line” between the events in Charlottesville and the choices Trump made in his 2016 presidential campaign, conservative African-American clergy members, scholars and political activists decried such an argument in a Monday press conference at the National Press Club.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when you think&#8230; (accessed via links at LibertyUnyielding today)</p>
<p><a href="http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/08/18/just-thought-hunt-vestiges-confederacy-couldnt-get-dumber/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/08/18/just-thought-hunt-vestiges-confederacy-couldnt-get-dumber/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Just when you thought the hunt for vestiges of the Confederacy couldn’t get any dumber&#8221;</p>
<p>The Antifas think an they have found a stealth-flag that&#8217;s 100 years old and not related to the Civil War in any way.<br />
&#8220;It’s a section of a mosaic tile frieze found in the Times Square subway station in New York City. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailywire.com/news/19861/oops-antifa-protesters-vandalized-peace-monument-emily-zanotti#" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailywire.com/news/19861/oops-antifa-protesters-vandalized-peace-monument-emily-zanotti#</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately for Antifa, who were clearly to busy opposing fascism to read a plaque at the base of the monument (which is printed with the words, &#8220;Cease firing, peace is priceless,”) or do any basic Google research, what they thought was a pro-Confederate memorial turned out to be a monument to peace.</p>
<p><b>The statue, which depicts an angel guiding a Confederate soldier to lay down his arms, was erected in 1911, well after the Civil War, and a part of an organized effort in Atlanta to encourage peace and healing </b>in the wake of a bloody and destructive era in the state&#8217;s history.&#8221;</p>
<p>And not everyone is buying the MediaLeft&#8217;s Kool-Aid:</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativefiringline.com/eyewitness-confirms-left-wing-protesters-used-acid-rocks-police-charlottesville-nothing-video/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://conservativefiringline.com/eyewitness-confirms-left-wing-protesters-used-acid-rocks-police-charlottesville-nothing-video/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In an exclusive interview with the Conservative Firing Line on Thursday, Denise Freeman, a former registered nurse (RN) from North Carolina who was literally in the middle of the melee that took place in Charlottesville, Virginia, confirmed that leftist protesters were extremely violent, hurling rocks, eggs, frozen water bottles, urine, feces and what she believes to be battery acid.</p>
<p>Freeman went to Charlottesville as part of a contingent from the APV (American Pit Vipers) III Percenter organization.  According to Freeman, the group was there after having contacted local law enforcement and did not take sides in the protest.</p>
<p>Freeman, who said she has a Puerto Rican son, was up-front in saying that she disavows the alt-right groups, including the KKK and the white nationalists who participated in the “Unite the Right” rally.  She also expressed similar sentiments about the far-left Antifa counter-protesters.</p>
<p>She chose to go, she said, because of her belief in the First Amendment right to free speech and free assembly, saying that it extends to both sides, even if she disagrees with their point of view.</p>
<p>“We’re not affiliated with either side,” she said.</p>
<p>Her job was to provide assistance to anyone who might need medical attention.</p>
<p>And, it turns out, her services were needed – by both sides in the the fight.</p>
<p>Freeman told me she and her colleagues pulled and treated injured protesters from both sides, sometimes working in the middle of the street as combatants clashed around her.  In all, she said, they treated well over two dozen people. At one point, they attended over 5 people at one time in the street.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, she added, “my boys were holding people off.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
Freeman explained that she and her comrades feared being attacked by both sides, and had to maintain “situational awareness,” but<b> it turned out that they had much more to fear from the liberal protesters who, she said, were far more violent than the white nationalists.</p>
<p>“I don’t know of anyone attacked by the alt-right,” she said “All of the violence was from the Antifa side.”</b></p>
<p>That’s not to say the alt-right didn’t start fights.  Freeman said both sides initiated conflict with the other at times, but the leftists were far more violent.</p>
<p>And, she recalled,<b> the level of respect shown to her and her group was quite different between the two sides, with the alt-right being far more respectful </b>than the Antifa counter-protesters.&#8221;</p>
<p>(A curious observation about Right v Left even when both are alt-ed; compare Tea Party to OWS)</p>
<p><a href="http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/08/18/black-christian-leaders-come-together-defend-trump-charlottesville-violence/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/08/18/black-christian-leaders-come-together-defend-trump-charlottesville-violence/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;While some, like Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer, have claimed that there is a “direct line” between the events in Charlottesville and the choices Trump made in his 2016 presidential campaign, conservative African-American clergy members, scholars and political activists decried such an argument in a Monday press conference at the National Press Club.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 03:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave Says: 
August 18th, 2017 at 7:32 pm
When you give government absolute power to right your wrongsï¼Œ&lt;b&gt;how are you going to take back its power when it stops righting wrongsï¼Ÿ&lt;/b&gt;
* * *
It takes a lot of work, and recognition of the problem.
That&#039;s what President Trump is (to some degree) attempting to do with the EPA, DOJ, etc -- which not only stopped righting wrongs, but started committing them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Says:<br />
August 18th, 2017 at 7:32 pm<br />
When you give government absolute power to right your wrongsï¼Œ<b>how are you going to take back its power when it stops righting wrongsï¼Ÿ</b><br />
* * *<br />
It takes a lot of work, and recognition of the problem.<br />
That&#8217;s what President Trump is (to some degree) attempting to do with the EPA, DOJ, etc &#8212; which not only stopped righting wrongs, but started committing them.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 02:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If all Trum is good for is using the Presidential bully pulpit to make Amis feel better. why not just grab a random Youtube celebrity and put him into the White House.

Same efficiency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all Trum is good for is using the Presidential bully pulpit to make Amis feel better. why not just grab a random Youtube celebrity and put him into the White House.</p>
<p>Same efficiency.</p>
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		By: Les		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Les]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 01:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’ve heard this same comparison over and over. Grant actually fought the enemy. Trump tweets and continuously shoots himself and, if you haven’t noticed, lots of people on his own side. He’s actively working to have a smaller Republican presence in congress.&quot;

I would have said the same thing prior to the election. What a mess Trump seemed to be in. How could should a disorganized campaign win?  And history seems to be repeating itself. How can such a disorganized White House be effective? But he&#039;s got 3 more years which is less time than he had during the election so I&#039;ll withhold judgment and look forward to seeing what happens in first, 2018, then 2020.

As for shooting his allies, I think many of them were not really so and his tweets and speeches are aimed at a different audience, the audience which helped him win. I can only guess at how effective they are from my own reaction when I heard he blamed not only the neo-nazis, but placed blame on both sides.  FINALLY, I thought.

As for decreasing the Republican presence in congress, the Republicans themselves have to take much of the blame.  No one is else is attacking.  Rubio, whom I once thought one of the more attractive candidates, didn&#039;t even mention antifa in his blame. Or maybe he did, but it wasn&#039;t covered by the MSM (which would point out how ineffective a &quot;normal&quot; politician would be in getting his message across). As a note, I closed my Twitter account a while back so I there are many things I&#039;m not up to date on.

It may not have been clear, but I&#039;m still agnostic towards Trump.  If there was any politician who aggressively defended many of the principles I believe in, I&#039;d be anti-Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve heard this same comparison over and over. Grant actually fought the enemy. Trump tweets and continuously shoots himself and, if you haven’t noticed, lots of people on his own side. He’s actively working to have a smaller Republican presence in congress.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would have said the same thing prior to the election. What a mess Trump seemed to be in. How could should a disorganized campaign win?  And history seems to be repeating itself. How can such a disorganized White House be effective? But he&#8217;s got 3 more years which is less time than he had during the election so I&#8217;ll withhold judgment and look forward to seeing what happens in first, 2018, then 2020.</p>
<p>As for shooting his allies, I think many of them were not really so and his tweets and speeches are aimed at a different audience, the audience which helped him win. I can only guess at how effective they are from my own reaction when I heard he blamed not only the neo-nazis, but placed blame on both sides.  FINALLY, I thought.</p>
<p>As for decreasing the Republican presence in congress, the Republicans themselves have to take much of the blame.  No one is else is attacking.  Rubio, whom I once thought one of the more attractive candidates, didn&#8217;t even mention antifa in his blame. Or maybe he did, but it wasn&#8217;t covered by the MSM (which would point out how ineffective a &#8220;normal&#8221; politician would be in getting his message across). As a note, I closed my Twitter account a while back so I there are many things I&#8217;m not up to date on.</p>
<p>It may not have been clear, but I&#8217;m still agnostic towards Trump.  If there was any politician who aggressively defended many of the principles I believe in, I&#8217;d be anti-Trump.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;how are you going to take back its power when it stops righting wrongsï¼Ÿ&lt;/b&gt;

Too late to worry about that ,Americans already fell for the Trum/Hussein trap of opposed opposites.

The Leftist alliance&#039;s leadership may not be smart enough put Trum into power so as to radicalize both factions so that they can seize Power. Lucifer, however, definitely is smart enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>how are you going to take back its power when it stops righting wrongsï¼Ÿ</b></p>
<p>Too late to worry about that ,Americans already fell for the Trum/Hussein trap of opposed opposites.</p>
<p>The Leftist alliance&#8217;s leadership may not be smart enough put Trum into power so as to radicalize both factions so that they can seize Power. Lucifer, however, definitely is smart enough.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When you give government absolute power to right your wrongsï¼Œhow are you going to take back its power when it stops righting wrongsï¼Ÿ]]></description>
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