Comments on: On job discrimination, gender and otherwise

By: Satuday Review of the Labyrinth - American Digest

Satuday Review of the Labyrinth - American Digest — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 16:36:04 +0000

[…] On job discrimination, gender and otherwise I believe that the way to end discrimination against a group is to end discrimination against that group, rather than to institute reverse preferences or to lower standards. […]

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 00:50:31 +0000

and talents, equality of outcome is prima facie evidence of inequality of opportunity. So we must have equality of outcome in order to guarantee equality of opportunity

Shouldn’t that be

and talents, inequality of outcome is prima facie evidence of inequality of opportunity. So we must have equality of outcome in order to guarantee equality of opportunity

By: Big Maq

Big Maq — Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:46:23 +0000

It is always interesting to find those who are considered part of the left recognize problems with other parts of the left (and many claim the left are all the same!)
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“Whatever else this is (Google’s response), it isn’t rational. There is no ethical or empirical difference, it seems to me, between Jones’s or Google’s statements about gender and any statement that simply asserts that all climate science is a hoax. None. And yet the left forgives itself for the exact same know-nothingism it rightly excoriates on the right.
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When all else fails, the diversity promoters argue that science is not salient because it is also merely a function of sexism, racism, ableism, etc. There is no objective truth – just systems of power and oppression.
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This atmosphere in the American workplace – now backed by some of the most powerful companies on Earth – is thereby increasingly totalitarian. It monitors people’s minds and thoughts – and will fire them for incorrect ones, without any explanation. And it aims to suppress the truth about the world
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You want to see another form of “resistance” to authoritarianism in the era of Trump? Go read Damore’s memo.” – Andrew Sullivan
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/trumps-reckless-nuclear-bluffing.html

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 11 Aug 2017 00:41:30 +0000

Ray,

It’s a shame there were no gentlemen there ready to catch them and offer them smelling salts.

By: Ray

Ray — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:42:43 +0000

Sean,
If I recall correctly, when Larry Summers made his remarks at Harvard, some of the women said they became nauseated and thought they were going to faint.

By: Matt_SE

Matt_SE — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 05:29:46 +0000

There’s no discrimination against women in science. NONE.
If anything, there’s a bias in their favor.

Are we to believe that previous discrimination against them, which must’ve been society-wide, was somehow eliminated in a plethora of high-pay, high-status jobs like lawyer and doctor, along with many of the other sciences like biology, but the discrimination was retained in a few specialties like computer science? By what mechanism could that have occurred?

Progressives have theories of social interaction and development as deranged as Nazi theories on race, and will not let them go.

By: Sean

Sean — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:37:52 +0000

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/08/npr-women-at-google-were-so-upset-over-memo-citing-biological-differences-they-skipped-work/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

“Women at Google defy stereotype by getting super-emotional and calling in sick over a man saying something they don’t like. “

By: Paul in Boston

Paul in Boston — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:33:16 +0000

Physicsguy. It’s weird isn’t it, that so few women go into physics, especially since Madam Curie should be a role model who succeeded 100 years ago when there was genuine discrimination against women. Despite the severe discrimination against her at the time, she won two(!) Nobel prizes, an extremely rare accomplishment.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 01:36:43 +0000

Neo, I get that there is more than one argument. My point is that to claim there is some benefit to the corp due to the differences is gender essentialism and is a bad thing.
The argument is not often used by the corp in question, or the statement is suggested by HR when discrimination in favor of women is obvious.
Instead, the argument is made by those promoting such discrimination in order to justify it.

By: parker

parker — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 00:06:23 +0000

Frog,

I have discriminated everyday of my life; I choose who I wish to and wish not to associate with. Color me a bigot.