I know, but we can dream, right?

We could do that, if we could first subdue the progressives and Code Pink. 🙂 So, that’s the plan?

God, that sounds beautiful, but no. You can’t kill 1.3 billion people. I would settle for:

A) Not letting any of them into the West, and then
B) Conquering them and treating them in the name of Christianity to the exact same Shariah-type laws that they subjected the dhimmis to for 1400 years. In the long run, it’s those laws about taxation, corvees, legal inferiority, etc. that will gradually convert them to Christianity and lay down roots for Western hegemony in Muslim lands. But it would take centuries, just as it took centuries for the once predominantly Christian Middle East to convert to Islam.

Sound good?

We could do that, if we could first subdue the progressives and Code Pink. 🙂 So, that’s the plan?

If you read the Quran literally and believe the later verses are dominant, you will arrive at that conclusion.

Literal vs allegorical = conservative vs liberal is a western Christian paradigm that doesn’t apply to the Koran. Allegorical interpretations of the Koran easily lead to violent conclusions. In any case, all Muslims, including the peaceful ones, believe the Meccan surahs take precedence over the Medinan ones wherever they conflict.

However, not all Muslims interpret the Quran that way. If they do, how do we account for the Kurds, the Indonesian Muslims (The largest population of Muslims in the world), the Muslims in India (The second most populous Muslim country.), and other mostly peaceful Muslims?

Simple. The SE Asian Muslims were among the last people to convert, they’ve had the least influence from the Arabs, tropical climates tend to breed lax attitudes to religion, and last but not least, the Arabs are putting in over time to change the Indonesians’ easygoing attitude to religion and by all accounts it’s working. The Muslims in India are a minority and the legacy of centuries of Islamic war, conquest and exploitation that far outweighed even what the conquistadors did to the New World. Cf. Mahmud of Ghazni and Mahmud of Ghor, two the greatest mass murderers the West has never heard of.

We should not tar the entire group because of the Wahhabi/Salafi sect.

I’m not tarring them because of the Wahhabis, I’m merely pointing out what the religion has always been since the very beginning. The Salafis are just the joyless people who take it seriously.

Instead, point out the insanity of the idea of a worldwide theocracy formed through violence. Point out that there are 5.5 billion non-Muslims in the world who must be killed or converted to achieve worldwide theocracy.

This is only a problem for those who don’t see conquest in terms of centuries. Islam’s been fighting everyone around it for 1400 years and they’re still going. They don’t look like they plan to stop any time soon.

Point out the impossibility of such an enterprise and how much more fruitful it is to live in peace and understanding with the rest of humanity. A program to counter the Wahhabi/Salafi doctrine has not been attempted. Why not give it a try?

You can’t defeat the Salafis by telling Muslims that their religion requires them to be peaceful. They won’t listen to non-Muslims anymore than Christians will listen to liberals telling them how to live their religion, and besides, Islam encourages violence. It’s right there in the holy book, the sira, ahadith, shariah, etc. The idea that religion is supposed to be a source of peace and harmony from which war is excluded is a Western/Protestant notion that Islam has never recognized. To the Muslim mind, and also to the pre-Reformation Catholic mind, religion never has precluded war.

If you read the Quran literally and believe the later verses are dominant, you will arrive at that conclusion. However, not all Muslims interpret the Quran that way. If they do, how do we account for the Kurds, the Indonesian Muslims (The largest population of Muslims in the world), the Muslims in India (The second most populous Muslim country.), and other mostly peaceful Muslims? We should not tar the entire group because of the Wahhabi/Salafi sect. Instead, point out the insanity of the idea of a worldwide theocracy formed through violence. Point out that there are 5.5 billion non-Muslims in the world who must be killed or converted to achieve worldwide theocracy. Point out the impossibility of such an enterprise and how much more fruitful it is to live in peace and understanding with the rest of humanity. A program to counter the Wahhabi/Salafi doctrine has not been attempted. Why not give it a try?

“I’m not sure Trump isn’t the source of some of it. Who knows?”

Talk about “unsourced gossip posing as news”!

https://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2017/08/are-we-losing-global-war-on-terror.html

That’s only half of the truth. The other half is that radical Islam is inspired by Islam’s teaching that Muslims are morally and spiritually superior to non-Muslims and that Allah made the ummah for the express purpose of ruling everyone else. This teaching, conflicting with the obvious fact that Muslims no longer rule everyone else but are in fact being ruled by kaffirun, produces an overwhelming sense of cosmic injustice throughout the Muslim world, a feeling of injustice that even most moderates share. The extremists just happen to be the ones who react accordingly.

It’s common for people in the West to differentiate between the Salafis/Wahhabis and the rest of the Islamic world in order to defend the latter while attacking the former. And yes, the Salafis and the rest may hate each other but their differences are quantitative, not qualitative. All versions of Islam believe in the imperative of Islamic world domination, full stop. The fact that most Muslims are too lazy or good-natured to go to war on their religion’s behalf doesn’t change that. All that means is that most Muslims are nicer than their religion and the man who founded it.

Islamism is the belief that Islam should expand until it rules everywhere. Islam teaches that Islam should expand until it rules everywhere.

Ergo, Islamism is Islam.