And the third one will be the master, the rest slaves.

If a person looks like a given gender, I will gladly use pronouns accordingly. I’m not going to check, and I honestly don’t give two f^%s what gender someone is, unless I intend to pursue an intimate relationship with that person. But I’m not going to pretend to be insane. For example, if a woman, dressed as a man, has failed to take her artificial hormones and menstruation occurs, this is not because men have periods too, this is because this person is a woman who is failing, at this moment, to convincingly pretend to be a man. It is reasonable to be polite, and to expect politeness, but it’s crossing the line to expect everyone else to share a delusion.

I have to believe that at some point, even a population of sheep, scared stiff of being accused of being an “ist” or a “phobe” will step up and say, “Nope, not going there. Have fun on that trip … by yourself.”

“You say it’s precisely the same absurdity that teenaged boys find so amusing in lesbians, and a laughing matter. I don’t see how that’s not taking one’s cue from the humor of teenaged boys.”

In an Emperor’s New Clothes situation, one wherein the general populace was too intimidated to state the obvious, I suppose you might claim that the adult takes its cue regarding admitting the obvious, from a fearless child.

My point though was that even a teenaged boy – since we hope young children never are confronted by such garbage – recognizes the logical identification absurdities involved in the pantomime. That is to say, you do not have to be a subtle philosopher and a moderate realist to immediately grasp the disorder exemplified by the manifest contradiction

Thus and I remove my restatement of your reference to a “laughing matter” :

“… in these pantomimes, … it [is] precisely this absurdity, which occurs to every teenaged boy who first hears about lesbians shoving fake manhoods into each other …”

Neo further says,

“If you read descriptions of the so-called “bottom” surgery which some transgendered people undergo, it is quite harrowing, even to read about. Very harrowing, actually. I can imagine lots of emotions a person could feel on reading about it, but amusement just isn’t one of them.”

Well now, laughing at the process of someone undergoing surgical genital mutilation and a faux reconstruction as the other sex, in order to satisfy a psychological disorder, is not quite the same as the pantomime about which I asserted that even teenaged boys recognized an implied a logical incoherence as the lesbians labored away at one another.

“I like a laugh every bit as much as the next person. But I just don’t see anything funny here. “

Neither do I. I think the process you have now decided to mention, is a real horror show … one I have no interest at all in involving myself in.

It is simple, because I adnit I am a simpleton. Born XY you are male, Born XX you are female. If you are a confused puppy; you need help.

The only problem I have with today’s LGBTQ-whatever world is that they seem to be on a campaign to *make* it my business.”

Not only do an increasing number of groups campaign to make it “our” business, they insist that society twist itself into odd shapes to conform to whatever mold they dictate.
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Some years ago I saw a bumper sticker that read “Focus on your own d*** family” — apparently someone was upset about the failure of either a bill or a referendum pushing same-sex marriage, I forget now which, and attributed that failure at least in part to the Christian organization Focus on the Family .

My response was then and continues to be:”I would be happy to focus on my family, if you would just let us alone.”

— I point out, in passing, that the public has ALWAYS voted against normalizing same sex unions under the name of “marriage” – it required meddling by activist courts to finally get traction.

Actually, it is what you wrote. You made the analogy [emphasis mine]:

It may not be a laughing matter to those involved in these pantomimes, but it precisely this absurdity, which occurs to every teenaged boy who first hears about lesbians shoving fake manhoods into each other, and then blurts out laughing, “What the hell? So they don’t like guys but one pretends to be one?”

Actually, it is a laughing matter … at best.

You say it’s precisely the same absurdity that teenaged boys find so amusing in lesbians, and a laughing matter. I don’t see how that’s not taking one’s cue from the humor of teenaged boys.

If you read descriptions of the so-called “bottom” surgery which some transgendered people undergo, it is quite harrowing, even to read about. Very harrowing, actually. I can imagine lots of emotions a person could feel on reading about it, but amusement just isn’t one of them.

I like a laugh every bit as much as the next person. But I just don’t see anything funny here.

Or, as Ben Shapiro (5’7″ and 150 pounds soaking wet) says when asked about transgender rights, “If I believe I’m six foot nine, shoot 70% of my three-pointers, and score 30-40 points a game, does the NBA have to take me?”

neo-neocon Says:
August 3rd, 2017 at 4:09 pm

DNW:

Ah, so you take your humor cues from teenage boys?”

Well, that is not what I wrote. And you brought up the issue of a “laughing matter”

What I wrote is that even a teenaged boy can recognize a self-refuting absurdity when he sees it: one implied by an engagement in a pantomimed activity apparently affirming what is otherwise denied.

“It may not be a laughing matter to those involved in these pantomimes, but it precisely this absurdity, which occurs to every teenaged boy who first hears about lesbians shoving fake manhoods into each other …”

“Have fun laughing at the sexuality of gay people?”

If an activity is absurd it is absurd, and desperate feelings don’t make it any less so.

If one thinks too much about the sexual act in general (particularly as a mere physical activity), there are certain absurdities that could attach to heterosexual sex as well.

Laugh away.

I prefer to get my jollies elsewhere.”

Few would bother to laugh, or even have the occasion to do so, if they didn’t demand that their performances be accorded public respect.

I suspect it has much to do with having huge brains, great imaginations, the ability to use symbols and ritual, long cultural histories and wide individual variation. Plus we have high sex drives and human females do not have estrus (“heat”).

We are very sexy monkeys. From this perspective I’m not surprised that, as the Kinks once sang:

Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls
It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world

In terms of evolution we are a work in progress. We are still absorbing the shockingly rapid expansion of our brains to triple the size of chimpanzees during the past two million years.

Apparently there are a few … ahem … kinks in the system.

I am old enough to remember when homosexuality was “the love that cannot speak its name.” Now it won’t shut up and has been joined by every conceivable variation on sex.

There is one rare condition, called “Testosterone Insensitivity Syndrome,” in which the individual is genetically male but appears female. A famous movie star is one example.

True hermaphrodites are about as rare.

I am very familiar with the experience of Johns Hopkins with “Gender Dysphoria” and that is what we are seeing. The point about plastic surgery someone made above is also very true. I injected varicose veins for a while as a vascular surgeon. My office staff hated those patients and eventually I discovered they were referring them to a “vein clinic” some pediatrician had started nearby.

I asked them why and they told me the patients were impossible. Typical plastic surgery patients and we didn’t charge enough to put up with them.

The transgender people are similar. Now they are attacking the military and I now examine military recruits as a part time retirement job. The services were dreading this incursion and Trump saved everyone by taking the hit and anything the Pentagon says is just virtue signaling. NOBODY in the military wanted anything to do with this.

I’m happy a few people seem content with their transformation. Cross dressers have alway been with us.