Breaking all Jap codes was never the issue.

Admiral Kimmel’s own autobiography already addressed the issue of why the warning message was sent or wasn’t sent.

As for debunking canards, I already accomplished that in the previous thread.

Another well-debunked canard. We had by no means broken all the Japanese codes, and there was still manual interpolation and translation required. More important, we did not have rapid and secure communications with Hawaii Pacific Fleet and Army headquarters, so the warning message was sent by ordinary commercial traffic.

In any case, war with Japan was no surprise — the Navy had been preparing for it since the ’20s. The Japanese diplomatic code that was broken did not reveal that Pearl Harbor was the target, and the Japanese attack force was under strict radio silence from before it left anchorage. Even had the message been received hours earlier, it is unlikely that the outcome of Pearl Harbor would have been different: Kimmel and Short were well aware that war was imminent and had prepared for attack. The only problem was, they thought it would come by sabotage by Hawaiian Japanese and not by aircraft carrier. There’s no evidence that an earlier warning message would have changed their defense plans.

Trump may not be “Churchillian,” but the circumstances leading to his appointment as Prime Minister, the peril in which Western Civilization found itself, and the contempt in which he was held by those who thought of themselves as the ruling elite in his nation, are remarkably similar.

Klaus Eberwein, a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week, has been found dead in Miami. Eberwein was due to appear next Tuesday before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors.

Saw a commercial about that on Youtube, Neo.

I got the sense that Hollywood was stringing up another psy ops to manipulate emotions again.

I don’t appreciate people branding brainwashing and psychological warfare as entertainment and then selling it to people who actually buy it. Although one can’t blame the cultists in Hollywood for maintaining what works and what wins for them. Even the Alt Right will stick to what works and what wins for them.

It also reminds me of Robert Skiba, who does special effects and movie shots sometimes. He mentioned that his god told him that he, Skiba, needed to be as good telling the truth as Satan/Hollywood is good at telling a lie. A notice in point is Battlestar Galactic and Thor, two things Skiba loved, and goes back to review to see what editing, director skill, and shots made them so good to him.

Thematically, Thor is very close to the Christian mythology and culture. The Son of God descends to the Earth in mortal form and saves the world…. sounds familiar. Wrong son, wrong god though from Skiba’s pov. But it works.

Preaching and Bible Thumping doesn’t work as well as bible research and reading. But research and reading doesn’t work as well as Hollywood movies for preaching fact as fiction or fiction as fact.

FDR was waiting for Pearl Harbor to happen, so he could reverse his promise of not joining the war. They had already broken the Jap comm codes and knew exactly what was going on, but refused to tell Admirals Kimmel and others responsible for that island’s defense.

Every democracy will turn into an oligarchy sooner or later. The US wanted democracy, and that is what they were given. the 12 tribes of Israel wanted a king, and a King named Saul was appointed over them. That didn’t mean it ended up well later on.

When the Gallipoli attack in WWI that he had encouraged fell apart with grave loses he stepped back and went into the WWI trenches as a field officer and performed well. At the end of WWI as things settled down he wrote, painted and was a politician who thought his life was pretty much over.

He was a keen observer of the Germans as they started their political venture with the Italians that led to WWII in the 1930’s. When things turned to crap for the Brits he became the man of the hour bringing FDR and the Americans along for the ride bending the rules every which way to save the Brits.

Which leads me up to pictures of 6’2″ FDR sitting because he was in a wheel chair between 5’6″ Winston and 5’5″ Stalin at conferences. FDR living on Martini’s and cigarettes, Stalin with his Vodka and pipe tobacco and Churchill with his Brandy and cigars all of them perhaps more than a little numbed out by their stimulate consumption.

As for his voice I remember listening to records of famous speeches when I was in High School and Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtin Speech’ post war was my favorite since I was going off to the college where he gave the speech in May of 1946. I remember a distinctive voice with a high English refinement and timber, something that required paying attention.