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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/07/10/the-ny-times-claims-it-made-an-honest-mistake-about-palin/#comment-2233303</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would have said that the Left was doing this intentionally... but apparently a lot of people are in the majority here jumping on the band wagon for the same point, so I don&#039;t have to write it any more. Used to have to write that line every single time Hussein did something from 2008 to 2012.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have said that the Left was doing this intentionally&#8230; but apparently a lot of people are in the majority here jumping on the band wagon for the same point, so I don&#8217;t have to write it any more. Used to have to write that line every single time Hussein did something from 2008 to 2012.</p>
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		By: GRA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GRA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When it comes to subtly mocking or lambasting any conservative there is no &quot;honest mistake&quot; by the NYT. It&#039;s deliberate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to subtly mocking or lambasting any conservative there is no &#8220;honest mistake&#8221; by the NYT. It&#8217;s deliberate.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It should be noted that the case the NYT relies on for protection from defamation suits -- New York Times Company v. Sullivan, a case decided by the Supreme Court in 1964 -- provides First Amendment protection to corporations (such as the &quot;New York Times Company&quot;) as well as individuals.  Obama, the Times, etc., etc. to the contrary notwithstanding, the Citizens United case did not extend First Amendment rights to corporations for the first time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be noted that the case the NYT relies on for protection from defamation suits &#8212; New York Times Company v. Sullivan, a case decided by the Supreme Court in 1964 &#8212; provides First Amendment protection to corporations (such as the &#8220;New York Times Company&#8221;) as well as individuals.  Obama, the Times, etc., etc. to the contrary notwithstanding, the Citizens United case did not extend First Amendment rights to corporations for the first time.</p>
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		By: Sarah Rolph		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Rolph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll be surprised if Palin settles. I doubt she is doing this for the money. This is a high-profile case, with principle at stake, and a good chance of winning; it won&#039;t be hard for her to find a good legal team willing to work pro bono.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be surprised if Palin settles. I doubt she is doing this for the money. This is a high-profile case, with principle at stake, and a good chance of winning; it won&#8217;t be hard for her to find a good legal team willing to work pro bono.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lizzy Says: 
July 10th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
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This is what happens when an institutions signs on to spread propaganda. Not that this makes what the NYT did “honest” or a “mistake.”
* * *
It&#039;s getting worse.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/why-people-hate-the-media-washington-post/

(after describing a WaPo story I&#039;m sure most of you have seen)
That’s it. That’s all they have here.&lt;b&gt; The only connection between the left-wing shooter and this repulsive right-wing lunatic who mouths off on a small radio station is the speculation of the host himself.&lt;/b&gt;

The Washington Post built an entire story around this – a story that blames right-wing talk radio for a left-wing crackpot opening fire on a baseball field full of Republicans, because they are Republicans.

Let that sink in:&lt;b&gt; the Washington Post blames right-wing talk radio for a left-winger’s assassination attempt on Republican politicians.&lt;/b&gt;
...
No wonder some leading lights in the national media class hears Donald Trump give an ordinary speech taking a few paragraphs to praise the good things about Western civilization, and declare it to really be a farrago of dog-whistling about white supremacy.&lt;b&gt; Left-winger attempts mass murder of Republicans: it’s the fault of right-wing talk radio. Radical Muslim massacres gays and lesbians, and says in a phone call from the murder scene that he’s doing it for ISIS: it’s the fault of Republicans.&lt;/b&gt; So, I guess if you get right down to it, Steve Scalise pretty much shot himself – right, Washington Post? Better get a reporter right on that story. It shouldn’t be too hard to nail down, seeing as how you only need a single quote from somebody willing to speculate on the record.

These people are so lost in their anti-conservative bigotry that they can’t tell up from down or right from wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lizzy Says:<br />
July 10th, 2017 at 8:37 pm<br />
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This is what happens when an institutions signs on to spread propaganda. Not that this makes what the NYT did “honest” or a “mistake.”<br />
* * *<br />
It&#8217;s getting worse.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/why-people-hate-the-media-washington-post/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/why-people-hate-the-media-washington-post/</a></p>
<p>(after describing a WaPo story I&#8217;m sure most of you have seen)<br />
That’s it. That’s all they have here.<b> The only connection between the left-wing shooter and this repulsive right-wing lunatic who mouths off on a small radio station is the speculation of the host himself.</b></p>
<p>The Washington Post built an entire story around this – a story that blames right-wing talk radio for a left-wing crackpot opening fire on a baseball field full of Republicans, because they are Republicans.</p>
<p>Let that sink in:<b> the Washington Post blames right-wing talk radio for a left-winger’s assassination attempt on Republican politicians.</b><br />
&#8230;<br />
No wonder some leading lights in the national media class hears Donald Trump give an ordinary speech taking a few paragraphs to praise the good things about Western civilization, and declare it to really be a farrago of dog-whistling about white supremacy.<b> Left-winger attempts mass murder of Republicans: it’s the fault of right-wing talk radio. Radical Muslim massacres gays and lesbians, and says in a phone call from the murder scene that he’s doing it for ISIS: it’s the fault of Republicans.</b> So, I guess if you get right down to it, Steve Scalise pretty much shot himself – right, Washington Post? Better get a reporter right on that story. It shouldn’t be too hard to nail down, seeing as how you only need a single quote from somebody willing to speculate on the record.</p>
<p>These people are so lost in their anti-conservative bigotry that they can’t tell up from down or right from wrong.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tuvea Says: 
July 10th, 2017 at 6:21 pm
Doesn’t the MSM disparage bloggers because they just make things up while the old-line media has ‘layers and layers’ of “fact checkers”? How’s that working out?
* * *
The WHCA is putting their thumb on the scales.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/341385-wh-correspondents-association-considering-change-to-bylaws-that-would-affect

&quot;The White House Correspondents Association is considering a change to its bylaws that would keep outlets like Breitbart News from attaining a higher level of membership within the group, preventing them from taking part in decision-making.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuvea Says:<br />
July 10th, 2017 at 6:21 pm<br />
Doesn’t the MSM disparage bloggers because they just make things up while the old-line media has ‘layers and layers’ of “fact checkers”? How’s that working out?<br />
* * *<br />
The WHCA is putting their thumb on the scales.<br />
<a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/media/341385-wh-correspondents-association-considering-change-to-bylaws-that-would-affect" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thehill.com/homenews/media/341385-wh-correspondents-association-considering-change-to-bylaws-that-would-affect</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The White House Correspondents Association is considering a change to its bylaws that would keep outlets like Breitbart News from attaining a higher level of membership within the group, preventing them from taking part in decision-making.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Herb Says: 
July 10th, 2017 at 4:56 pm
@Dave: Because by honest mistake in these cases they were honest about what they think (of conservatives) and it turns out being honest at this juncture was a mistake.

* * *
Isn&#039;t that the definition of a gaffe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herb Says:<br />
July 10th, 2017 at 4:56 pm<br />
@Dave: Because by honest mistake in these cases they were honest about what they think (of conservatives) and it turns out being honest at this juncture was a mistake.</p>
<p>* * *<br />
Isn&#8217;t that the definition of a gaffe?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After seeing what happened in the Mann v. Steyn case this could drag on for years, which would actually I think be in Palin&#039;s favor, as keeping the NYT&#039;s lyin&#039; and spinnin&#039; in the news is fine with me.
(Mann sued Steyn for defamation in an interesting obverse case, since in that instance we are rooting for the &quot;press&quot; over the &quot;public figure&quot;, but the case is in a DC court with  a judge who knows that Mann will lose at trial and is deliberately dragging things out hoping Steyn will go away - IMO)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing what happened in the Mann v. Steyn case this could drag on for years, which would actually I think be in Palin&#8217;s favor, as keeping the NYT&#8217;s lyin&#8217; and spinnin&#8217; in the news is fine with me.<br />
(Mann sued Steyn for defamation in an interesting obverse case, since in that instance we are rooting for the &#8220;press&#8221; over the &#8220;public figure&#8221;, but the case is in a DC court with  a judge who knows that Mann will lose at trial and is deliberately dragging things out hoping Steyn will go away &#8211; IMO)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sam L. Says: 
July 10th, 2017 at 2:17 pm
An “honest” mistake? I think not. No way, no how.

Is that anything like &quot;honest loyalty&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam L. Says:<br />
July 10th, 2017 at 2:17 pm<br />
An “honest” mistake? I think not. No way, no how.</p>
<p>Is that anything like &#8220;honest loyalty&#8221;?</p>
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		By: y81		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[y81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re:  It takes two to settle.  I guess Sarah Palin has a fair amount of money these days, but the NYT has a lot more, and litigation is very expensive.  If the NYT offers a significant amount, plus a groveling apology, I think she will take it.

As to whether we get there, Judge Rakoff is very liberal, but I have a hard time seeing this case disposed of on a motion to dismiss, and in that case there&#039;s the potential for lots of very expensive discovery before anyone could move for summary judgment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  It takes two to settle.  I guess Sarah Palin has a fair amount of money these days, but the NYT has a lot more, and litigation is very expensive.  If the NYT offers a significant amount, plus a groveling apology, I think she will take it.</p>
<p>As to whether we get there, Judge Rakoff is very liberal, but I have a hard time seeing this case disposed of on a motion to dismiss, and in that case there&#8217;s the potential for lots of very expensive discovery before anyone could move for summary judgment.</p>
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