Very appropriate for trump.

Only, he seems to be the B’rer Fox who is constructing his own tar doll and proceeds to get mired in the muck of his own making every time.

It takes a certain skill set to be persuasive. It certainly is more critical the more one is a leader of some sort.

Here is a video that might be inspiring for some on how we might be more persuasive.

No kidding, it is hard! But it is a skill that can be acquired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZKrot9IwkI
(Hint: Put it on 2x speed to reduce the time listening – it is still very audible).

He also has some interesting things to say about trump (lest you think it is anti-trump, you are in for a surprise)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcNe3eYF0Nc

Even Neo’s own story shows that it is a long process and not guaranteed.
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I have no idea the specifics with the people you are encountering, but, I am willing to bet that, in such conversations, if we indicated that we have the expectation that others shouldn’t treat the issues like a team sport…

“but once their wholesale willingness to ignore the same BS from their favored politician is exposed, we can have a real conversation.

… wouldn’t they have something of an expectation for us to be honest and forthright too?…

In the meantime I will not publicly pick up the weapon that my political enemy is using to destroy what remains of the Republic. (Circular firing squad-something the Democrats do not engage in and is a factor in their continued success.)”
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This is very much what I am talking about. We are afraid that any ounce of criticism we may have of trump or the GOP is automatically giving more power to the dems.

The silent but real price for that is our credibility.

Without credibility it is rather hard to get away from the team sport style conversation that we wish the others would break away from.

Sort of a chicken and egg game that no one wins.
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Anyway, it is a false impression. How the dems organize in DC (which is where this meme originates and applies to) is very different from how people behave one on one.

All I can say is that venturing outside one’s normal circles, where folks don’t already know you, with a bit of listening and probing, we can find that there is disagreement among dem voters.

Folks who vote dem are not a monolithic whole.

How else is it possible that trump swung as many regular dem voters as he has?

But what changed as a result of the passage of O-care was the dominant party of all three branches of government, as a direct result and payback for all the things you mentioned. I understand your frustration about the IRS and Fast and Furious. But the voters did what only they can do – and voted the bums out.

Trump and the Republicans have promised to fix your problems. My only point here is that Trump is squandering all his political capital (not to mention the honor and dignity of his office) on stupid cruelties and unforced errors. What I, personally, want him to be doing is working to fix Sharon Ws problems. If he does that he won’t have to worry about the Democrats or the press.

I realize Trump being Trump is fun or cathartic for a lot of you. But I don’t believe it’s accomplishing what Trump supporters thought they were voting for.

What is most alarming (and mortifying to the University of Pennsylvania, from which he graduated) is not that Trump has entered his eighth decade unscathed by even elementary knowledge about the nation’s history. As this column has said before, the problem isn’t that he does not know this or that, or that he does not know that he does not know this or that. Rather, the dangerous thing is that he does not know what it is to know something.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will050417.php3#jTklEq6UGZoAeSmd.99