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		By: Heresiarch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 16:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you tried &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clerihews&lt;/a&gt;?  Seems to me they would work well with the politics discussed here.

I try to avoid picking nits, but it seems to me that neither prescribed nor vestige work well with the iambic foot as you&#039;ve used them here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew" rel="nofollow">clerihews</a>?  Seems to me they would work well with the politics discussed here.</p>
<p>I try to avoid picking nits, but it seems to me that neither prescribed nor vestige work well with the iambic foot as you&#8217;ve used them here.</p>
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		By: bof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 04:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sonnet and Limerick, by Morris Bishop

The sonnet with her Mona Lisa smile
  Broods on the world with other-worldly stare.
  Priestess of melancholy, darkly fair,
Serene above our fury, guilt, and guile,
She, in her deeps, has learned to reconcile
  Life&#039;s contradictions. Really, I declare,
  I&#039;d gladly trust a sonnet anywhere,
That pure, seraphic sedentary. While

The limerick&#039;s furtive and mean;
You must keep her in close quarantine,
  Or she sneaks to the slums,
  And promptly becomes
Disorderly, drunk, and obscene.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonnet and Limerick, by Morris Bishop</p>
<p>The sonnet with her Mona Lisa smile<br />
  Broods on the world with other-worldly stare.<br />
  Priestess of melancholy, darkly fair,<br />
Serene above our fury, guilt, and guile,<br />
She, in her deeps, has learned to reconcile<br />
  Life&#8217;s contradictions. Really, I declare,<br />
  I&#8217;d gladly trust a sonnet anywhere,<br />
That pure, seraphic sedentary. While</p>
<p>The limerick&#8217;s furtive and mean;<br />
You must keep her in close quarantine,<br />
  Or she sneaks to the slums,<br />
  And promptly becomes<br />
Disorderly, drunk, and obscene.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 03:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I learn so much here. In a life spent dealing with airplanes, weather, and climbing mountains there was a lot I missed before I retired and discovered the internet. 

There may have been some poetry in me but very little ever came out. I do enjoy  reading it and marvel that  anyone can actually  string  such words together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learn so much here. In a life spent dealing with airplanes, weather, and climbing mountains there was a lot I missed before I retired and discovered the internet. </p>
<p>There may have been some poetry in me but very little ever came out. I do enjoy  reading it and marvel that  anyone can actually  string  such words together.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/05/09/a-sonnet-in-praise-of-sonnets-2/#comment-2206709</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 03:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tangentially, I recently read Carrie Fisher&#039;s &quot;Princess Diarist&quot; memoir, which includes a lot of her poems written in her Star Wars era.  She was really quite good.
They aren&#039;t sonnets, of course.

A poet that I really like and don&#039;t hear much about these days is Robert Graves.  He&#039;s much better known for his prose, of course; he made it a condition of his contracts that a publisher who wanted his &quot;popular works&quot; had to also bring out a poetry volume.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangentially, I recently read Carrie Fisher&#8217;s &#8220;Princess Diarist&#8221; memoir, which includes a lot of her poems written in her Star Wars era.  She was really quite good.<br />
They aren&#8217;t sonnets, of course.</p>
<p>A poet that I really like and don&#8217;t hear much about these days is Robert Graves.  He&#8217;s much better known for his prose, of course; he made it a condition of his contracts that a publisher who wanted his &#8220;popular works&#8221; had to also bring out a poetry volume.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 03:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whenever I find myself reading &quot;open verse&quot; I wonder why anyone bothered printing some often very mundane paragraphs of prose just because they had extra carriage returns in them.

Me, I like feet and rhymes.

One of the most complex forms is the Welsh cynghannedd, among other weighty forms: 
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/detail/70172

&quot;Imagine that the most popular show on your NPR radio station was a poetry competition, with local teams fighting to win a national trophy. Each poet’s given a subject and a meter, then invited to leave for twenty minutes to compose his or her offering. In the interval, the judge entertains the packed hall with anecdotes about poetry and examples of the participants’ past work from memory. The emphasis is on enjoyment and the laughter is often raucous. This is a description of the most-listened-to show now on Radio Cymru, the BBC’s Welsh-language radio service. The meters in which the poets are expected to compete make a villanelle look like free verse. ...
To writers who are familiar with the free verse tradition only, this degree of metrical complexity must appear bewildering. In order to qualify as a licensed bard in the fourteenth century, an apprentice had to show mastery of twenty-four such forms and undertake a nine-year qualificationâ€‰–â€‰quite a lengthy MFA. Once licensed, the bard traveled around the courts of the nobility and asked for patronage. Ordinary people wrote poems and songs as well, but the ability to handle the twenty-four meters with ease marked you out as educated and, therefore, one of the elite.&quot;


This particular ancient form was analyzed and extolled in the book &quot;Singing in Chains&quot; by Merewid Hopwood

https://books.google.com/books/about/Singing_in_Chains.html?id=XZZiAAAAMAAJ
&quot;The word cynghanedd means &#039;harmony&#039; and it is the music of Welsh poetry throughout the ages that Mererid Hopwood celebrates in this accessible handbook. In it she explores the intricacy and beauty of the art, inviting the reader (or rather listener) to marvel at its clarity and complexity. Her explanation of the rules and conventions, followed by simple exercises, will also allow beginners to try their hand at this ancient yet thoroughly contemporary craft.&quot;--BOOK JACKET.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I find myself reading &#8220;open verse&#8221; I wonder why anyone bothered printing some often very mundane paragraphs of prose just because they had extra carriage returns in them.</p>
<p>Me, I like feet and rhymes.</p>
<p>One of the most complex forms is the Welsh cynghannedd, among other weighty forms:<br />
<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/detail/70172" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/detail/70172</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine that the most popular show on your NPR radio station was a poetry competition, with local teams fighting to win a national trophy. Each poet’s given a subject and a meter, then invited to leave for twenty minutes to compose his or her offering. In the interval, the judge entertains the packed hall with anecdotes about poetry and examples of the participants’ past work from memory. The emphasis is on enjoyment and the laughter is often raucous. This is a description of the most-listened-to show now on Radio Cymru, the BBC’s Welsh-language radio service. The meters in which the poets are expected to compete make a villanelle look like free verse. &#8230;<br />
To writers who are familiar with the free verse tradition only, this degree of metrical complexity must appear bewildering. In order to qualify as a licensed bard in the fourteenth century, an apprentice had to show mastery of twenty-four such forms and undertake a nine-year qualificationâ€‰–â€‰quite a lengthy MFA. Once licensed, the bard traveled around the courts of the nobility and asked for patronage. Ordinary people wrote poems and songs as well, but the ability to handle the twenty-four meters with ease marked you out as educated and, therefore, one of the elite.&#8221;</p>
<p>This particular ancient form was analyzed and extolled in the book &#8220;Singing in Chains&#8221; by Merewid Hopwood</p>
<p><a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/Singing_in_Chains.html?id=XZZiAAAAMAAJ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://books.google.com/books/about/Singing_in_Chains.html?id=XZZiAAAAMAAJ</a><br />
&#8220;The word cynghanedd means &#8216;harmony&#8217; and it is the music of Welsh poetry throughout the ages that Mererid Hopwood celebrates in this accessible handbook. In it she explores the intricacy and beauty of the art, inviting the reader (or rather listener) to marvel at its clarity and complexity. Her explanation of the rules and conventions, followed by simple exercises, will also allow beginners to try their hand at this ancient yet thoroughly contemporary craft.&#8221;&#8211;BOOK JACKET.</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 03:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sonnets are great.

My wife and I courted with poetry -- starting with limericks and haiku, then onwards to double dactyls and triolets, then to sonnets, and even a sestina or two.  We liked the sonnets, and made a tradition of writing each other sonnets every year for our anniversary.  Every year we read each other&#039;s sonnet, then carefully put them in an album... and read all that went before.  We&#039;ve been married twelve years; soon we&#039;ll need a new album.

Anne Fadiman wrote a lovely essay about sonnets; it&#039;s in her collection &quot;Ex Libris&quot;, which I highly recommend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonnets are great.</p>
<p>My wife and I courted with poetry &#8212; starting with limericks and haiku, then onwards to double dactyls and triolets, then to sonnets, and even a sestina or two.  We liked the sonnets, and made a tradition of writing each other sonnets every year for our anniversary.  Every year we read each other&#8217;s sonnet, then carefully put them in an album&#8230; and read all that went before.  We&#8217;ve been married twelve years; soon we&#8217;ll need a new album.</p>
<p>Anne Fadiman wrote a lovely essay about sonnets; it&#8217;s in her collection &#8220;Ex Libris&#8221;, which I highly recommend.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[testing all is well, artfldgr posted a too long comment, that was poignant. Meanwhile, Comey is yesterdavs papers. Next, Koskinen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>testing all is well, artfldgr posted a too long comment, that was poignant. Meanwhile, Comey is yesterdavs papers. Next, Koskinen.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2017 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can i have Sonnets about sonnets for 600?


    A Sonnet by Dante Gabriel Rossetti
    On the Sonnet by John Keats
    Nuns Fret Not at Their Convent&#039;s Narrow Room by William Wordsworth
    Scorn Not the Sonnet by William Wordsworth
    A Sonnet upon Sonnets by Robert Burns
    Imitated from the Spanish of Lopez de Vega by Thomas Edwards
    Powers of the Sonnet by Ebenezer Elliott
    Sonnet-writing by Frederick William Faber
    The Sonnet by Richard Watson Gilder
    To a Rejected Sonnet by William Ewart Gladstone
    To Mr. Henry Cary, on the Publication of His Sonnets by Anna Seward
    In the Welsh Manner by Edward Williams
    The Sonnet by John Dovaston
    What the Sonnet Is by Eugene Lee-Hamilton
    An Enigma by Edgar Allan Poe
    &quot;Sonnets are full of love...&quot; by Christina Rossetti
    The Sonnet (III) by John Addington Symonds
    The Sonnet&#039;s Voice by Theodore Watts-Dunton
    &quot;A witless gallant, a young wench that wooed&quot; by Michael Drayton
    Anniversary by William Mason
    That the True Structure of the Sonnet Should Be Observ&#039;d by Authors of Genius Who Thus Entitle Their Poems by Capel Lofft
    In Reply to the XXXII Sonnet (above) by Henry Kirke White
    Sonnet by Edwin Arlington Robinson
    Fascination by Kay Nanling Michaelson
    The Sonnet by Edward Burrough Brownlow 

Thank you... 
but i often like Haiku

I kill an ant
and realize my three children
have been watching.
- Kato Shuson

&lt;b&gt;
As I began to love myself I found that anguish and emotional suffering are only warning signs that I was living against my own truth. Today, I know, this is “AUTHENTICITY”.

As I began to love myself I understood how much it can offend somebody if I try to force my desires on this person, even though I knew the time was not right and the person was not ready for it, and even though this person was me. Today I call it “RESPECT”.

As I began to love myself I stopped craving for a different life, and I could see that everything that surrounded me was inviting me to grow. Today I call it “MATURITY”.

As I began to love myself I understood that at any circumstance, I am in the right place at the right time, and everything happens at the exactly right moment. So I could be calm. Today I call it “SELF-CONFIDENCE”.

As I began to love myself I quit stealing my own time, and I stopped designing huge projects for the future. Today, I only do what brings me joy and happiness, things I love to do and that make my heart cheer, and I do them in my own way and in my own rhythm. Today I call it “SIMPLICITY”.

As I began to love myself I freed myself of anything that is no good for my health — food, people, things, situations, and everything that drew me down and away from myself. At first I called this attitude a healthy egoism. Today I know it is “LOVE OF ONESELF”.

As I began to love myself I quit trying to always be right, and ever since I was wrong less of the time. Today I discovered that is “MODESTY”.

As I began to love myself I refused to go on living in the past and worrying about the future. Now, I only live for the moment, where everything is happening. Today I live each day, day by day, and I call it “FULFILLMENT”.

As I began to love myself I recognized that my mind can disturb me and it can make me sick. But as I connected it to my heart, my mind became a valuable ally. Today I call this connection “WISDOM OF THE HEART”.

We no longer need to fear arguments, confrontations or any kind of problems with ourselves or others. Even stars collide, and out of their crashing new worlds are born. Today I know “THAT IS LIFE”!
&lt;/b&gt;
Charlie Chaplin, written on his 70th birthday (April 16, 1959)

Go figure... i know so much stuff.. 
and its even more ephemeral than we are 
and we are but dust
dust and candles in the wind
in a pointless universe
which will come undone
again
-artfldgr &quot;on the fly who has no wall...&quot;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can i have Sonnets about sonnets for 600?</p>
<p>    A Sonnet by Dante Gabriel Rossetti<br />
    On the Sonnet by John Keats<br />
    Nuns Fret Not at Their Convent&#8217;s Narrow Room by William Wordsworth<br />
    Scorn Not the Sonnet by William Wordsworth<br />
    A Sonnet upon Sonnets by Robert Burns<br />
    Imitated from the Spanish of Lopez de Vega by Thomas Edwards<br />
    Powers of the Sonnet by Ebenezer Elliott<br />
    Sonnet-writing by Frederick William Faber<br />
    The Sonnet by Richard Watson Gilder<br />
    To a Rejected Sonnet by William Ewart Gladstone<br />
    To Mr. Henry Cary, on the Publication of His Sonnets by Anna Seward<br />
    In the Welsh Manner by Edward Williams<br />
    The Sonnet by John Dovaston<br />
    What the Sonnet Is by Eugene Lee-Hamilton<br />
    An Enigma by Edgar Allan Poe<br />
    &#8220;Sonnets are full of love&#8230;&#8221; by Christina Rossetti<br />
    The Sonnet (III) by John Addington Symonds<br />
    The Sonnet&#8217;s Voice by Theodore Watts-Dunton<br />
    &#8220;A witless gallant, a young wench that wooed&#8221; by Michael Drayton<br />
    Anniversary by William Mason<br />
    That the True Structure of the Sonnet Should Be Observ&#8217;d by Authors of Genius Who Thus Entitle Their Poems by Capel Lofft<br />
    In Reply to the XXXII Sonnet (above) by Henry Kirke White<br />
    Sonnet by Edwin Arlington Robinson<br />
    Fascination by Kay Nanling Michaelson<br />
    The Sonnet by Edward Burrough Brownlow </p>
<p>Thank you&#8230;<br />
but i often like Haiku</p>
<p>I kill an ant<br />
and realize my three children<br />
have been watching.<br />
&#8211; Kato Shuson</p>
<p><b><br />
As I began to love myself I found that anguish and emotional suffering are only warning signs that I was living against my own truth. Today, I know, this is “AUTHENTICITY”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I understood how much it can offend somebody if I try to force my desires on this person, even though I knew the time was not right and the person was not ready for it, and even though this person was me. Today I call it “RESPECT”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I stopped craving for a different life, and I could see that everything that surrounded me was inviting me to grow. Today I call it “MATURITY”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I understood that at any circumstance, I am in the right place at the right time, and everything happens at the exactly right moment. So I could be calm. Today I call it “SELF-CONFIDENCE”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I quit stealing my own time, and I stopped designing huge projects for the future. Today, I only do what brings me joy and happiness, things I love to do and that make my heart cheer, and I do them in my own way and in my own rhythm. Today I call it “SIMPLICITY”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I freed myself of anything that is no good for my health — food, people, things, situations, and everything that drew me down and away from myself. At first I called this attitude a healthy egoism. Today I know it is “LOVE OF ONESELF”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I quit trying to always be right, and ever since I was wrong less of the time. Today I discovered that is “MODESTY”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I refused to go on living in the past and worrying about the future. Now, I only live for the moment, where everything is happening. Today I live each day, day by day, and I call it “FULFILLMENT”.</p>
<p>As I began to love myself I recognized that my mind can disturb me and it can make me sick. But as I connected it to my heart, my mind became a valuable ally. Today I call this connection “WISDOM OF THE HEART”.</p>
<p>We no longer need to fear arguments, confrontations or any kind of problems with ourselves or others. Even stars collide, and out of their crashing new worlds are born. Today I know “THAT IS LIFE”!<br />
</b><br />
Charlie Chaplin, written on his 70th birthday (April 16, 1959)</p>
<p>Go figure&#8230; i know so much stuff..<br />
and its even more ephemeral than we are<br />
and we are but dust<br />
dust and candles in the wind<br />
in a pointless universe<br />
which will come undone<br />
again<br />
-artfldgr &#8220;on the fly who has no wall&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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