Comments on: Sepsis refresher course

By: Ymar Sakar

Ymar Sakar — Sat, 29 Apr 2017 02:40:53 +0000

It is pretty obvious, btw, that vitamins support the immune system. Why? Because of the Black Death. Highest casualties rates were among the malnourished, the young, and the very old. Immune system wise, many people could have fought it off, if they had enough reserves of energy to begin with, which many didn’t at the time.

As for which vitamins do what, that’s not really necessary to figure out.

By: Ymar Sakar

Ymar Sakar — Sat, 29 Apr 2017 02:37:10 +0000

It is extraordinarily complex, intimidatingly so, and gets more complex every year.

Another way of saying idiotic scientists are recognizing just how much doctors and science had got it wrong.

And the reason why it gets complex is partly because of unnecessary biowarfare R and D in hospitals.

By: Frog

Frog — Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:22:22 +0000

MollyNH, you know a lot about a lot of stuff, but you do not know nearly enough medicine. Using Google will not suffice, regrettably.

Try educating yourself about the immune system, acute versus chronic inflammatory responses, then go to the cellular constituents. It is extraordinarily complex, intimidatingly so, and gets more complex every year.

For example, there is “granuloma”; then there are the constituent cells of the granuloma- what do they all do? The macrophages, the T and B cells and their many subgroups, the fibroblasts?
Don’t forget antibodies- what makes them? And how? How many immunocytic disorders are there, and how are they treated?
You will not succeed, because you cannot understand the biology involved. There are no shortcuts to ten years of education.

Check out also the panoply of auto-immune diseases, in which my wife is a specialist. That alone will leave your head spinning, and does not include lymphomas and leukemias.
The immune system is extraordinarily complex. A vague notion of “supporting” it with vitamin D is regrettably sheer nonsense.

huxley: none of what I wrote, and now write, is in any way related to your story about your mother’s D and C (=Dilatation and Curettage). Sorry.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:58:32 +0000

Frog: It is indeed unusual for a young person to have a hemorrhoid operation. But hardly unheard of. It happens now and then. See this, for example.

By: mollyNH

mollyNH — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:15:29 +0000

So what huxley, you had to deal with what you saw not make judgements, then or now even.

By: mollyNH

mollyNH — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:13:34 +0000

Sorry froggy but you don’t think know what you talking about, do some Google research on your own I am not your info finder in the mean time my suggestion is get that D on board, good luck hope you never run into medical misadventure,like some of these unfortunates.

By: huxley

huxley — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:47:33 +0000

I’m older now and I realize that most likely my mother’s d-n-c was an abortion.

There’s no way I could have known that at 12 years-old. I was just trying to save my one and only mother from dying.

Eff Frog and most conservatives who don’t understand this story.

By: London Trader

London Trader — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:48:17 +0000

Frog: I thought it might be but as a non medical person it’s hard to tell. The report does reference a somewhat limited clinical study though.

By: Frog

Frog — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:43:57 +0000

MollyNH:
anti-inflammatories (corticosteroids, in the main) do not “support” the immune sytem. They in fact interfere with, and suppress certain components thereof.
The claim that X “supports” a bodily system or organ is a legally-chosen safe word. Like “A substance originally found in jellyfish supports brain health.” Claims like that need no FDA approval, no determination of efficacy needed.
Linkage of high Vit. D levels to better surgical outcomes is very dubious. Got a link?
It is all BS, and parts fools from their money.
Sorry.

By: Frog

Frog — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:31:34 +0000

There’s not much in Erin’s story to educate the public about. Sepsis, the former Septicemia (bacteria in the vascular system) is associated with a high fever, rapid pulse, low blood pressure and little else.
We do not know the details of Erin’s ER visits and the findings. But it seems that medical lethargy was operative. The inaction is disgraceful.
If she came to a decent ER with temp > 104F, blood cultures will be drawn with or without another possible locus of infection (e.g. lung), because something bad is afoot. IVs will be started for blood volume expansion and drug administration, and the patient will be urgently admitted or, at worst, held for observation. Broad-spectrum antibiotics will be given IV.
That is the standard of care.
Dentist Dad likely feels some guilt in his daughter’s death…too passive? on the sidelines? not pushy
enough?
There is another odd part to this story: 23 year-old women do not get awful hemorrhoids requiring surgery.
The NPR story provided by London Trader is, regrettably, full of hokum.