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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/whatever-was-the-pentagon-waiting-for/#comment-2197358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2017 06:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A container nuke only causes local damage. The survivalists in the US are more worried about EMP area of effect hits because it would hit the entire country. The US can absorb a few nukes, they&#039;ll just start creating concentration camps and then retaliate with counter nukes.

If the US receives an EMP attack, and it has to be from a missile that launches it at a high enough altittude for the pulse to cover a large part of the US, then the Leftist alliance can activate their contingency plans to take over. Then you&#039;ll be fighting the Chinese, the Koreans, the Iranians, the Leftist 5th column, the Mexicans, or anyone else that wants a piece of the US.

The problem is that it would take 100-500 megatons to create an emp pulse strong enough to induce enough current to fry all the infrastructure. I haven&#039;t done the calculations though.

Iran and Korea have problems creating warheads with that much yield. Of course, they don&#039;t have problems getting the missile tech, because China has it. Why does China have it? Because Clinton sold it to them... thanks American voters.

Generally speaking, there are technical limitations, and our 21st century infrastructure is definitely vulnerable to extreme damage, especially since it is getting more and more complicated with wireless power transmission. Who knows what the effects will be. If the pulse harmonizes with all these wireless waves in the air, who knows what kind of effects it will have on this region that scientists have no clue about. 

The Ark of Gabriel, or as I call it the Ark of Lucifer, is also in Russia. And the ancient pre Divine Flood had better tech than US of 1920s. So the possibility of some third unknown unknown coming in and punching America back to the stone age, is still feasible. Which would make the survivalists content at least.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A container nuke only causes local damage. The survivalists in the US are more worried about EMP area of effect hits because it would hit the entire country. The US can absorb a few nukes, they&#8217;ll just start creating concentration camps and then retaliate with counter nukes.</p>
<p>If the US receives an EMP attack, and it has to be from a missile that launches it at a high enough altittude for the pulse to cover a large part of the US, then the Leftist alliance can activate their contingency plans to take over. Then you&#8217;ll be fighting the Chinese, the Koreans, the Iranians, the Leftist 5th column, the Mexicans, or anyone else that wants a piece of the US.</p>
<p>The problem is that it would take 100-500 megatons to create an emp pulse strong enough to induce enough current to fry all the infrastructure. I haven&#8217;t done the calculations though.</p>
<p>Iran and Korea have problems creating warheads with that much yield. Of course, they don&#8217;t have problems getting the missile tech, because China has it. Why does China have it? Because Clinton sold it to them&#8230; thanks American voters.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, there are technical limitations, and our 21st century infrastructure is definitely vulnerable to extreme damage, especially since it is getting more and more complicated with wireless power transmission. Who knows what the effects will be. If the pulse harmonizes with all these wireless waves in the air, who knows what kind of effects it will have on this region that scientists have no clue about. </p>
<p>The Ark of Gabriel, or as I call it the Ark of Lucifer, is also in Russia. And the ancient pre Divine Flood had better tech than US of 1920s. So the possibility of some third unknown unknown coming in and punching America back to the stone age, is still feasible. Which would make the survivalists content at least.</p>
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		By: Roy Lofquist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blert is correct. The hysteria about EMP is terribly overblown. A reasonably accurate account of the actual effects of EMP tests conducted by both the US and Soviet Union can be found here:

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2

I say reasonably accurate because much of the publicly available information is contradictory. IOW, it is rife with disinformation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blert is correct. The hysteria about EMP is terribly overblown. A reasonably accurate account of the actual effects of EMP tests conducted by both the US and Soviet Union can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2</a></p>
<p>I say reasonably accurate because much of the publicly available information is contradictory. IOW, it is rife with disinformation.</p>
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		By: skeptic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See this article by MIT&#039;s TechnologyReview magazine. Some group(s) (probably Russians) have brought down portions of Ukraine&#039;s power grid in two separate incidents in December of 2015 and 2016.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603262/ukraines-power-grid-gets-hacked-again-a-worrying-sign-for-infrastructure-attacks/

See also the book &quot;Lights out&quot; by Ted Koppel about the threat of hacking of the power grid.

Blert, with all due respect, speaking as someone with a PhD in electrical engineering you are blowing smoke. A circuit breaker will not reset if it has been turned into melted metal by a pulse with high voltage and heavy current. 

I have looked into the power grid and am horrified to learn that the they use the open internet to form the feedback loop that balances the power plant output and power demand. This has to be done on a millisecond basis. Koppel&#039;s book and the Ukraine incidents show how vulnerable this is to hacking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this article by MIT&#8217;s TechnologyReview magazine. Some group(s) (probably Russians) have brought down portions of Ukraine&#8217;s power grid in two separate incidents in December of 2015 and 2016.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603262/ukraines-power-grid-gets-hacked-again-a-worrying-sign-for-infrastructure-attacks/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603262/ukraines-power-grid-gets-hacked-again-a-worrying-sign-for-infrastructure-attacks/</a></p>
<p>See also the book &#8220;Lights out&#8221; by Ted Koppel about the threat of hacking of the power grid.</p>
<p>Blert, with all due respect, speaking as someone with a PhD in electrical engineering you are blowing smoke. A circuit breaker will not reset if it has been turned into melted metal by a pulse with high voltage and heavy current. </p>
<p>I have looked into the power grid and am horrified to learn that the they use the open internet to form the feedback loop that balances the power plant output and power demand. This has to be done on a millisecond basis. Koppel&#8217;s book and the Ukraine incidents show how vulnerable this is to hacking.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I keep reading commenters (here and elsewhere) saying the Norks and Iranians are working to develop missile technology that can deliver a nuke to Israel and/or the USA.

Why bother?  Put a nuke in a container and deliver it to a seaport and you&#039;ve accomplished the same thing at far less cost and much greater accuracy.

Yes, we supposedly have container inspections and radiation monitors, but I&#039;m sure they can be foiled, either technologically or through human means.  With millions of airport workers coming from Somali communities, for example, you already have a back door into US airports.  

Or drive a nuke through our southern border on a waybill showing it destined for Canada, and it passes with only light inspection.

Missiles are an expensive means to deliver a package that can be delivered much cheaper, I&#039;m thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep reading commenters (here and elsewhere) saying the Norks and Iranians are working to develop missile technology that can deliver a nuke to Israel and/or the USA.</p>
<p>Why bother?  Put a nuke in a container and deliver it to a seaport and you&#8217;ve accomplished the same thing at far less cost and much greater accuracy.</p>
<p>Yes, we supposedly have container inspections and radiation monitors, but I&#8217;m sure they can be foiled, either technologically or through human means.  With millions of airport workers coming from Somali communities, for example, you already have a back door into US airports.  </p>
<p>Or drive a nuke through our southern border on a waybill showing it destined for Canada, and it passes with only light inspection.</p>
<p>Missiles are an expensive means to deliver a package that can be delivered much cheaper, I&#8217;m thinking.</p>
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		By: David Swadell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Swadell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Whatever was the Pentagon waiting for?&quot;

After eight years of Obama&#039;s Manchurian Presidency, do you really have to ask?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whatever was the Pentagon waiting for?&#8221;</p>
<p>After eight years of Obama&#8217;s Manchurian Presidency, do you really have to ask?</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 03:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oldflyer,

Almost everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. NK&#039;s missisle and nuke programs are not an immediate threat, same goes for Iran. But there is always a but. We know both NK and Iran seek the ability to launch nukes to hit distant targets. And, the grid is fragile to a variety of possible attacks.

We need to assess potential threats based upon facts and often murky intelligence. Better safe than sorry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldflyer,</p>
<p>Almost everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. NK&#8217;s missisle and nuke programs are not an immediate threat, same goes for Iran. But there is always a but. We know both NK and Iran seek the ability to launch nukes to hit distant targets. And, the grid is fragile to a variety of possible attacks.</p>
<p>We need to assess potential threats based upon facts and often murky intelligence. Better safe than sorry.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/whatever-was-the-pentagon-waiting-for/#comment-2196249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t put much stock in existing faraday cages protecting us against an EMP attack.  Cars have windows and plastic grills; foil sheets on electronics enclosures are intended to prevent excessive RF energy from leaking out of the device into your home environment and disabling other electronic devices.

Another scary event was the attack on San Jose&#039;s large power grid hub at the south end of the city.  A group of attackers using AK-47&#039;s or 30 cal. hunting rifles shot many holes in the casings of the largest tranformers.  This caused the oil to leak out, the transformers then overheated and were destroyed.

The politician&#039;s reports blew the event off as gun-nut pranksters; the DOD red-cell team that investigated said that it was almost certainly a test by highly skilled forces.  The kicker is that only a few of these sized transformers can be obtained in short notice nation-wide.  Any more than that, and months are required to obtain them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put much stock in existing faraday cages protecting us against an EMP attack.  Cars have windows and plastic grills; foil sheets on electronics enclosures are intended to prevent excessive RF energy from leaking out of the device into your home environment and disabling other electronic devices.</p>
<p>Another scary event was the attack on San Jose&#8217;s large power grid hub at the south end of the city.  A group of attackers using AK-47&#8217;s or 30 cal. hunting rifles shot many holes in the casings of the largest tranformers.  This caused the oil to leak out, the transformers then overheated and were destroyed.</p>
<p>The politician&#8217;s reports blew the event off as gun-nut pranksters; the DOD red-cell team that investigated said that it was almost certainly a test by highly skilled forces.  The kicker is that only a few of these sized transformers can be obtained in short notice nation-wide.  Any more than that, and months are required to obtain them.</p>
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		By: Michael F Adams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael F Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a guy who works for ERCOT (Electricity Reliability Council of Texas) who swims at the same pool as I do, and I asked him whether the Texas grid has protection from an EMP.  Remember, the Texas grid is separate from the ones you have in the US.  He was very evasive in a way that suggested to me that he was not at liberty to discuss such sensitive issues. So, since then, I have not worried all that  much about that particular hazard. Yes there are vulnerabilities, but ERCOT has it wired, so to speak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a guy who works for ERCOT (Electricity Reliability Council of Texas) who swims at the same pool as I do, and I asked him whether the Texas grid has protection from an EMP.  Remember, the Texas grid is separate from the ones you have in the US.  He was very evasive in a way that suggested to me that he was not at liberty to discuss such sensitive issues. So, since then, I have not worried all that  much about that particular hazard. Yes there are vulnerabilities, but ERCOT has it wired, so to speak.</p>
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		By: Frs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Iran have plans to take out parts of the U.S. electric grid through a cyber attack or atmospheric nuclear blast,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Neo, If so worry in your mind or other American today. Assuming Iran planning for this sort of high technical attack far from their doorstep this should more worry for Israel ten times that US. Specially Iranian and Mullahs in Iraq for the last 40 years Iranian &#038; Mullah &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-iran-anniversary-idUSKBN15P0QV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chant &#039;Death to America&#039; while burning US and Israel flags&lt;/a&gt;. Were &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&lt;/a&gt;: ‘Death to America’ Iranians Are ‘Making Common Cause With the Republican Caucus’

Also do not forget this:

I&lt;blockquote&gt;In congressional testimony last week, Mark Dubowitz of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) did the math: That’s $11.9 billion. But that, literally, may not be the half of it. In July, U.S. government officials told the Associated Press that Iran had repatriated a sum approaching $20 billion in the half-year following implementation of the nuclear deal (the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Is that $20 billion from the JCPOA in addition to the pre-JCPOA $11.9 billion in oil revenues? Is it in addition to the $1.7 billion “settlement of a failed 1970s arms deal” (a.k.a. the ransom for American hostages)? The “most transparent administration in history” is not saying. But as Dubowitz runs the numbers, the “worst-case scenario” is that Iran has gotten its mitts on $33.6 billion – and “worst” assumes that we know about every shady backroom deal, which seems unlikely.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;That staggering figure would amount to about 8 percent of Iran’s entire annual GDP. Whatever the true amount is, were the billions transferred in cash?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Obama’s Cash-for-Jihad Program&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>Iran have plans to take out parts of the U.S. electric grid through a cyber attack or atmospheric nuclear blast,</i></b></p>
<p>Neo, If so worry in your mind or other American today. Assuming Iran planning for this sort of high technical attack far from their doorstep this should more worry for Israel ten times that US. Specially Iranian and Mullahs in Iraq for the last 40 years Iranian &amp; Mullah <a HREF="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-iran-anniversary-idUSKBN15P0QV" rel="nofollow">chant &#8216;Death to America&#8217; while burning US and Israel flags</a>. Were <a HREF="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/" rel="nofollow">Obama</a>: ‘Death to America’ Iranians Are ‘Making Common Cause With the Republican Caucus’</p>
<p>Also do not forget this:</p>
<p>I</p>
<blockquote><p>In congressional testimony last week, Mark Dubowitz of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) did the math: That’s $11.9 billion. But that, literally, may not be the half of it. In July, U.S. government officials told the Associated Press that Iran had repatriated a sum approaching $20 billion in the half-year following implementation of the nuclear deal (the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA).</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Is that $20 billion from the JCPOA in addition to the pre-JCPOA $11.9 billion in oil revenues? Is it in addition to the $1.7 billion “settlement of a failed 1970s arms deal” (a.k.a. the ransom for American hostages)? The “most transparent administration in history” is not saying. But as Dubowitz runs the numbers, the “worst-case scenario” is that Iran has gotten its mitts on $33.6 billion – and “worst” assumes that we know about every shady backroom deal, which seems unlikely.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>That staggering figure would amount to about 8 percent of Iran’s entire annual GDP. Whatever the true amount is, were the billions transferred in cash?</p></blockquote>
<p><b><i>Obama’s Cash-for-Jihad Program</i></b></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://financialservices.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hhrg-114-ba09-wstate-mdubowitz-20160908.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fueling Terror&lt;/a&gt;: The Dangers of Ransom Payments to Iran]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://financialservices.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hhrg-114-ba09-wstate-mdubowitz-20160908.pdf" rel="nofollow">Fueling Terror</a>: The Dangers of Ransom Payments to Iran</p>
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