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		By: Ymar Sakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2197356</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymar Sakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2017 06:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, the high register might actually be their exposure to Japanese anime.

I&#039;ve used voice commands on strange packs of dogs, semi feral. Only the deeper more powerful registers will command them. The other stuff, they ignore. No wonder the ancients said they learned martial arts techniques from animals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, the high register might actually be their exposure to Japanese anime.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used voice commands on strange packs of dogs, semi feral. Only the deeper more powerful registers will command them. The other stuff, they ignore. No wonder the ancients said they learned martial arts techniques from animals.</p>
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		By: Francesca		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francesca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 04:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mexicans do that uprising thing at the end of sentences, too.  In Spanish.  When I lived in Chihuahua, it drove me crazy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexicans do that uprising thing at the end of sentences, too.  In Spanish.  When I lived in Chihuahua, it drove me crazy.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196633</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 01:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...a guy whose cracker accent was harsh, unpleasant, and clear.&lt;/i&gt;

Alas, I&#039;m afraid that&#039;s what I sound like. It&#039;s the nasal Tennessee-ish twang, not what we call &quot;magnolia mouth,&quot; which comes from further south and is rich and warm. 

I haven&#039;t seen &lt;i&gt;Hacksaw Ridge&lt;/i&gt;, London Trader, but another one that comes to mind is Kelly Macdonald as Carla Jean Moss in &lt;i&gt;No Country for Old Men&lt;/i&gt;. I think that somewhere along the line in this transition to real accents I actually remarked &quot;Well, they finally got an actual southerner to play a southern role&quot;, only to learn that the actor was British. 

One that didn&#039;t quite work, however, was Liam Neeson in &lt;i&gt;Seraphim Falls&lt;/i&gt;. He and Pierce Brosnan played, respectively, Confederate and Union soldiers. Neeson&#039;s accent wasn&#039;t bad, just off enough to be noticeable.

In general Brit actors have gotten extremely good at American accents. I remember being staggered when I heard Bertie Wooster ( Hugh Laurie) speak perfect American in &lt;i&gt;Stuart Little&lt;/i&gt;. And then of course &lt;i&gt;House&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;a guy whose cracker accent was harsh, unpleasant, and clear.</i></p>
<p>Alas, I&#8217;m afraid that&#8217;s what I sound like. It&#8217;s the nasal Tennessee-ish twang, not what we call &#8220;magnolia mouth,&#8221; which comes from further south and is rich and warm. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen <i>Hacksaw Ridge</i>, London Trader, but another one that comes to mind is Kelly Macdonald as Carla Jean Moss in <i>No Country for Old Men</i>. I think that somewhere along the line in this transition to real accents I actually remarked &#8220;Well, they finally got an actual southerner to play a southern role&#8221;, only to learn that the actor was British. </p>
<p>One that didn&#8217;t quite work, however, was Liam Neeson in <i>Seraphim Falls</i>. He and Pierce Brosnan played, respectively, Confederate and Union soldiers. Neeson&#8217;s accent wasn&#8217;t bad, just off enough to be noticeable.</p>
<p>In general Brit actors have gotten extremely good at American accents. I remember being staggered when I heard Bertie Wooster ( Hugh Laurie) speak perfect American in <i>Stuart Little</i>. And then of course <i>House</i>.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196628</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 01:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Last night I saw Lester Maddox on a TV show
With some smart-ass New York Jew
And the Jew laughed at Lester Maddox
And the audience laughed at Lester Maddox too
Well, he may be a fool but he&#039;s our fool
If they think they&#039;re better than him they&#039;re wrong
So I went to the park and I took some paper along
And that&#039;s where I made this song

We talk real funny down here
We drink too much and we laugh too loud
We&#039;re too dumb to make it in no Northern town
And we&#039;re keepin&#039; the niggers down

--Randy Newman, &quot;Rednecks&quot;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTLHxpUQ_B8&lt;/i&gt;

Randy making trouble in 1974. It&#039;s not a simple song. Listen to the whole thing. From the album, &quot;Good Old Boys.&quot; His best IMO.

Newman is Jewish and he spent much of his childhood in New Orleans. Life is complicated.

Lester Maddox was a governor of Georgia (1967-1971) and a segregationist Democrat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Last night I saw Lester Maddox on a TV show<br />
With some smart-ass New York Jew<br />
And the Jew laughed at Lester Maddox<br />
And the audience laughed at Lester Maddox too<br />
Well, he may be a fool but he&#8217;s our fool<br />
If they think they&#8217;re better than him they&#8217;re wrong<br />
So I went to the park and I took some paper along<br />
And that&#8217;s where I made this song</p>
<p>We talk real funny down here<br />
We drink too much and we laugh too loud<br />
We&#8217;re too dumb to make it in no Northern town<br />
And we&#8217;re keepin&#8217; the niggers down</p>
<p>&#8211;Randy Newman, &#8220;Rednecks&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTLHxpUQ_B8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTLHxpUQ_B8</a></i></p>
<p>Randy making trouble in 1974. It&#8217;s not a simple song. Listen to the whole thing. From the album, &#8220;Good Old Boys.&#8221; His best IMO.</p>
<p>Newman is Jewish and he spent much of his childhood in New Orleans. Life is complicated.</p>
<p>Lester Maddox was a governor of Georgia (1967-1971) and a segregationist Democrat.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196618</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed &quot;Justified,&quot; a TV series about a US Marshal in Harlan, KY. My experience of the South was FL, GA and LA, so I can&#039;t vouch for the accents in &quot;Justified,&quot; but they sounded reasonable. (KY is neither fish nor fowl on the Southern question, but Harlan is only 20 miles north of Tennessee, though there is that bit of West Virginia which gets in the way.)

The thing about Southerners is just because they don&#039;t sound like they are from New York or Los Angeles, doesn&#039;t mean they all sound the same.

I also liked that &quot;Justified&quot; was the first TV show I can remember since Andy Griffith where Southerners (or Appalachians) were portrayed sympathetically.

Even though I was all countercultural and progressive when I got to San Francisco, I really hated hearing Californians put Southerners down.

I don&#039;t claim to be a Southerner. But I lived among people who were and I respected them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed &#8220;Justified,&#8221; a TV series about a US Marshal in Harlan, KY. My experience of the South was FL, GA and LA, so I can&#8217;t vouch for the accents in &#8220;Justified,&#8221; but they sounded reasonable. (KY is neither fish nor fowl on the Southern question, but Harlan is only 20 miles north of Tennessee, though there is that bit of West Virginia which gets in the way.)</p>
<p>The thing about Southerners is just because they don&#8217;t sound like they are from New York or Los Angeles, doesn&#8217;t mean they all sound the same.</p>
<p>I also liked that &#8220;Justified&#8221; was the first TV show I can remember since Andy Griffith where Southerners (or Appalachians) were portrayed sympathetically.</p>
<p>Even though I was all countercultural and progressive when I got to San Francisco, I really hated hearing Californians put Southerners down.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim to be a Southerner. But I lived among people who were and I respected them.</p>
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		By: Esther		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196613</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once I took a continuing ed voice class in public speaking, I was the only female.. just putting it out there:-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once I took a continuing ed voice class in public speaking, I was the only female.. just putting it out there:-)</p>
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		By: Bilwick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196565</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Uptalk I am familiar with; but is this an example of &quot;High Rising Terminal&quot;?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSGp4UdEvQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uptalk I am familiar with; but is this an example of &#8220;High Rising Terminal&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSGp4UdEvQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSGp4UdEvQ</a></p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196549</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Decades ago, I knew a woman who was educated at Mercer and very kind.  Listening to her was like having a mint julep poured into my ear, but I only got about half of what she was saying.
Not far from where she grew up was a guy whose cracker accent was harsh, unpleasant, and clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decades ago, I knew a woman who was educated at Mercer and very kind.  Listening to her was like having a mint julep poured into my ear, but I only got about half of what she was saying.<br />
Not far from where she grew up was a guy whose cracker accent was harsh, unpleasant, and clear.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196536</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Followed one of the links to the vocal up-tick or question sound to declarative sentences, and I agree that it was probably from Australia, or even Canada, originally. In fact I remember remarking on the phenomenon during the days of the Australian movie invasion. There seemed to be something in much of their manner of speaking that was intended to either seek agreement, or (in the case of Brits and Canadians) to convey irony or archness.



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I’ve lived in the south all my life (approaching 70 years now) and until fairly recently southern accents in movies were pretty much uniformly ludicrous, and were either irritating or made me feel embarrassed for the actor, depending on my mood (and whether or not the character was the stereotypical person given a southern accent to mark him as a moron or racist, or more usually both). 

But in recent years things have vastly improved, ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a kid with upper south/western relatives it grated the heck out of me to hear these thoroughly inept and annoying accents which were as you mention, just signals for audience disapproval.

As a child, I recall  seeing both &quot;The Unforgiven&quot; with it&#039;s lunatic sword waving galloping preacher, and the Oxbow Incident, on TV: each featuring a uniformed caricature of a bigot, raving in a &quot;southern&quot; accent.

Eventually hearing an actor on The Twilight Zone, a young dark-haired guy whose somewhat over-the-top accent seemed nonetheless to be authentic, though quite a bit more extreme than I was used to hearing, surprised me.

I&#039;m pretty sure now that the actor was a youngish James Best. At least that is how it looks to me in backtracking.

Arthur Hunnicutt, another fellow with an extreme but seemingly authentic accent, was also on the Twilight Zone I think. He played an old hunter whose dog drowned. A story sure to get the attention and provoke the sympathy of any 7 year old boy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Followed one of the links to the vocal up-tick or question sound to declarative sentences, and I agree that it was probably from Australia, or even Canada, originally. In fact I remember remarking on the phenomenon during the days of the Australian movie invasion. There seemed to be something in much of their manner of speaking that was intended to either seek agreement, or (in the case of Brits and Canadians) to convey irony or archness.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I’ve lived in the south all my life (approaching 70 years now) and until fairly recently southern accents in movies were pretty much uniformly ludicrous, and were either irritating or made me feel embarrassed for the actor, depending on my mood (and whether or not the character was the stereotypical person given a southern accent to mark him as a moron or racist, or more usually both). </p>
<p>But in recent years things have vastly improved, &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As a kid with upper south/western relatives it grated the heck out of me to hear these thoroughly inept and annoying accents which were as you mention, just signals for audience disapproval.</p>
<p>As a child, I recall  seeing both &#8220;The Unforgiven&#8221; with it&#8217;s lunatic sword waving galloping preacher, and the Oxbow Incident, on TV: each featuring a uniformed caricature of a bigot, raving in a &#8220;southern&#8221; accent.</p>
<p>Eventually hearing an actor on The Twilight Zone, a young dark-haired guy whose somewhat over-the-top accent seemed nonetheless to be authentic, though quite a bit more extreme than I was used to hearing, surprised me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure now that the actor was a youngish James Best. At least that is how it looks to me in backtracking.</p>
<p>Arthur Hunnicutt, another fellow with an extreme but seemingly authentic accent, was also on the Twilight Zone I think. He played an old hunter whose dog drowned. A story sure to get the attention and provoke the sympathy of any 7 year old boy.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/04/18/voice-trends/#comment-2196532</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thee leeuw&quot; is common now. As is &quot;feeeood&quot; for food.  I once had a meeting with a woman who said &quot;yuss&quot;, we&#039;ll sit at the dusk&quot;  Every third sentence had something that should  have had the &quot;ess&quot; phoneme.  Made me nuts trying to figure out why she was doing that.
And the &quot;a&quot; sound in &quot;fast&quot;, which is common, is morphing to &quot;ah&quot;.  Thaht fahmily is fahst.
But for ruining credibility, clarity, and authority, it&#039;s hard to be the uptalk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thee leeuw&#8221; is common now. As is &#8220;feeeood&#8221; for food.  I once had a meeting with a woman who said &#8220;yuss&#8221;, we&#8217;ll sit at the dusk&#8221;  Every third sentence had something that should  have had the &#8220;ess&#8221; phoneme.  Made me nuts trying to figure out why she was doing that.<br />
And the &#8220;a&#8221; sound in &#8220;fast&#8221;, which is common, is morphing to &#8220;ah&#8221;.  Thaht fahmily is fahst.<br />
But for ruining credibility, clarity, and authority, it&#8217;s hard to be the uptalk.</p>
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