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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/03/27/so-whats-going-on-with-gorsuch/#comment-2189256</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read a report earlier today that Leahy is rumbling about not being in favor of a filibuster.  The article posited this strategy:  Leahy (essentially politically invulnerable in Vermont) takes the brunt of the criticism from the left.  As a former Judiciary chair  and (former?) judiciary member, Red State senators up for re-election in 2018 can defer to Leahy&#039;s experience and credentials by voting with him.  All the while Schumer rouses the rabble to placate the leftist base.  Perhaps &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; is where 8 Dem votes come from.

Even in my own state (PA) this would work.  Casey has already announced he will not vote for Gorsuch, but with Leahy in the mix he could easily rationalize a change of vote as an attempt to mollify both sides:  &quot;I was &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; Gorsuch before I voted &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt; him.&quot;

We live in interesting times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a report earlier today that Leahy is rumbling about not being in favor of a filibuster.  The article posited this strategy:  Leahy (essentially politically invulnerable in Vermont) takes the brunt of the criticism from the left.  As a former Judiciary chair  and (former?) judiciary member, Red State senators up for re-election in 2018 can defer to Leahy&#8217;s experience and credentials by voting with him.  All the while Schumer rouses the rabble to placate the leftist base.  Perhaps <i>this</i> is where 8 Dem votes come from.</p>
<p>Even in my own state (PA) this would work.  Casey has already announced he will not vote for Gorsuch, but with Leahy in the mix he could easily rationalize a change of vote as an attempt to mollify both sides:  &#8220;I was <i>against</i> Gorsuch before I voted <i>for</i> him.&#8221;</p>
<p>We live in interesting times.</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 17:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To answer my own question apparently yes any senator can request a one week delay and that is what happened here with some Democrat (Schumer I suppose). 

The senate has more stupid rules and members that love their stupid rules than any body ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer my own question apparently yes any senator can request a one week delay and that is what happened here with some Democrat (Schumer I suppose). </p>
<p>The senate has more stupid rules and members that love their stupid rules than any body ever.</p>
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		By: Jim Doherty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Doherty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think its all smoke. The Dems know that repubs did not filibuster Sotomayer and Kagan. If they do this they are running a huge risk. 

Right now they are drunk on resistance and the media helping them out with their russia boogeyman. 

But in two years when they are defending 23 seats if things do not work out as they hope and they lose a net 9 seats, they will be in big trouble. Because even if they beat Trump 4 years from now, it may be impossible for them to flip the Senate for a long time.

That will leave them with the white house, and nothing else. At that point they will be screaming that Scotus appts require   an up or down vote, and no filibuster.

Problem will be that most of the repub Senators will remember this time and say hold on, you filibustered Gorsuch.

They are gonna fold on Gorsuch, and make sure he gets his 60 for cloture. Any other result could screw them over for a very long time. Breyer, Kennedy, and Ginsburg are not spring chickens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its all smoke. The Dems know that repubs did not filibuster Sotomayer and Kagan. If they do this they are running a huge risk. </p>
<p>Right now they are drunk on resistance and the media helping them out with their russia boogeyman. </p>
<p>But in two years when they are defending 23 seats if things do not work out as they hope and they lose a net 9 seats, they will be in big trouble. Because even if they beat Trump 4 years from now, it may be impossible for them to flip the Senate for a long time.</p>
<p>That will leave them with the white house, and nothing else. At that point they will be screaming that Scotus appts require   an up or down vote, and no filibuster.</p>
<p>Problem will be that most of the repub Senators will remember this time and say hold on, you filibustered Gorsuch.</p>
<p>They are gonna fold on Gorsuch, and make sure he gets his 60 for cloture. Any other result could screw them over for a very long time. Breyer, Kennedy, and Ginsburg are not spring chickens.</p>
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		By: Cap'n Rusty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cap'n Rusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yancey Ward: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heritage.org/political-process/report/rules-based-strategy-overcoming-minority-obstruction-supreme-court&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This long report at the Heritage Foundation&lt;/a&gt; indicates that the Republicans would not have to maintain a 24/7 presence on the Senate floor. But they would have to produce a quorum (51) on fifteen minutes&#039; notice. History records instances when Senators brought mattresses into their offices. There is also a method by which the first of each Senator&#039;s two speeches chan be limited to one hour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yancey Ward: <a href="http://www.heritage.org/political-process/report/rules-based-strategy-overcoming-minority-obstruction-supreme-court" rel="nofollow">This long report at the Heritage Foundation</a> indicates that the Republicans would not have to maintain a 24/7 presence on the Senate floor. But they would have to produce a quorum (51) on fifteen minutes&#8217; notice. History records instances when Senators brought mattresses into their offices. There is also a method by which the first of each Senator&#8217;s two speeches chan be limited to one hour.</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester Draws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 06:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stare, not state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stare, not state.</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester Draws]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know Republicans don&#039;t want to learn any new tricks, but they should.

They have tried a couple of times to close government down in recent history. They got stared down and lost ground because of it. 

Trump needs to tell them to bring on the filibuster. Refuse to do any business as a result of it. Until Democrats in public service start to squeal. Closing government doesn&#039;t hurt conservatives.

Let them play their silly game, until all reasonable people see who is being unreasonable.

State the silly buggers down. And shame any Republican who helps them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Republicans don&#8217;t want to learn any new tricks, but they should.</p>
<p>They have tried a couple of times to close government down in recent history. They got stared down and lost ground because of it. </p>
<p>Trump needs to tell them to bring on the filibuster. Refuse to do any business as a result of it. Until Democrats in public service start to squeal. Closing government doesn&#8217;t hurt conservatives.</p>
<p>Let them play their silly game, until all reasonable people see who is being unreasonable.</p>
<p>State the silly buggers down. And shame any Republican who helps them.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[London Trader,

As I understand Senate rules, keeping the legislative day open like that requires that a majority of the Senate membership be on the floor 24 hours a day, day after day.  This leads to an symmetric problem- Democrats, as the minority, need only keep one member on the floor during debate of anything- the one filibustering.  The Republicans, as the majority party, must be the ones keeping a majority on the floor to meet the quorum calls.  If they fail to that even once, the Senate adjourns and a new day is started.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London Trader,</p>
<p>As I understand Senate rules, keeping the legislative day open like that requires that a majority of the Senate membership be on the floor 24 hours a day, day after day.  This leads to an symmetric problem- Democrats, as the minority, need only keep one member on the floor during debate of anything- the one filibustering.  The Republicans, as the majority party, must be the ones keeping a majority on the floor to meet the quorum calls.  If they fail to that even once, the Senate adjourns and a new day is started.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 06:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the filibuster will be a charade- endangered senators will be given permission to vote for cloture, but will then vote against Gorsuch.  I predict Gorsuch gets approved 53-47, with Manchin the only yea vote from the Democrats.

Now, if Schumer thinks he has three Republicans in his pocket for beating back the nuclear option, it will become a real filibuster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the filibuster will be a charade- endangered senators will be given permission to vote for cloture, but will then vote against Gorsuch.  I predict Gorsuch gets approved 53-47, with Manchin the only yea vote from the Democrats.</p>
<p>Now, if Schumer thinks he has three Republicans in his pocket for beating back the nuclear option, it will become a real filibuster.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OldTexan: Congratulations on your newest grand-daughter!

That&#039;s not me, but I have friends and family who are on the hook for the world their kids, grand-kids and great-grand-kids will inhabit, so that is me, too, ultimately.

I fear for it. Yet I also know the future has always been uncertain for us wacko monkeys with big craniums.

God bless us, everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldTexan: Congratulations on your newest grand-daughter!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not me, but I have friends and family who are on the hook for the world their kids, grand-kids and great-grand-kids will inhabit, so that is me, too, ultimately.</p>
<p>I fear for it. Yet I also know the future has always been uncertain for us wacko monkeys with big craniums.</p>
<p>God bless us, everyone.</p>
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		By: OldTexan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OldTexan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 02:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parker - If we get Gorsuch in the Supremes DJT can piss down my back all day long if not then what the F.  We are living in precarious times, kind of like the Blitz in London and most folks don&#039;t have a clue that all is not well......  and THAT&#039;S ALL I KNOW ABOUT THAT! 

 I think we are in a lot more trouble for the future than any one can conceive and I just found out today that I have new grand daughter coming into this world.   I have now idea how my seven grand critters are going to deal with the future we are giving them.  What we want and what we are going to get might be different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker &#8211; If we get Gorsuch in the Supremes DJT can piss down my back all day long if not then what the F.  We are living in precarious times, kind of like the Blitz in London and most folks don&#8217;t have a clue that all is not well&#8230;&#8230;  and THAT&#8217;S ALL I KNOW ABOUT THAT! </p>
<p> I think we are in a lot more trouble for the future than any one can conceive and I just found out today that I have new grand daughter coming into this world.   I have now idea how my seven grand critters are going to deal with the future we are giving them.  What we want and what we are going to get might be different.</p>
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