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		By: Big Maq		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo&#039;s country cousin doing 19th Nervous Breakdown...

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo&#8217;s country cousin doing 19th Nervous Breakdown&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt-TfsIZThU" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt-TfsIZThU</a></p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Maq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Yann - only meat puppets buy into what adams says, in his &quot;theoretical&quot; world of meat puppets led by master persuaders.

You cannot just pick out a few things he says and ignore the rest as statements like the one you quote is based on that fundamental assumption of people.

And, if you buy into it, then what does that make you?

I personally think people are much smarter than adams gives them credit for, but...is he really correct?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yann &#8211; only meat puppets buy into what adams says, in his &#8220;theoretical&#8221; world of meat puppets led by master persuaders.</p>
<p>You cannot just pick out a few things he says and ignore the rest as statements like the one you quote is based on that fundamental assumption of people.</p>
<p>And, if you buy into it, then what does that make you?</p>
<p>I personally think people are much smarter than adams gives them credit for, but&#8230;is he really correct?</p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 21:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;What will Trump do today? Will it be good, okay, or counter-productive and harmful? And how relentless and distorting and over-the-top (and successful) will the negative media spin on it be?

And above all: where to find anything even approximating the truth? &quot;&lt;/em&gt; - Neo

Would add, in between those paragraphs, the following...

&lt;em&gt;&quot;And how supporters from the right will (or feel compelled to) twist themselves to defend, excuse, or ignore the latest from trump&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

This exacerbates the difficulty of getting at the &quot;truth&quot; as we also have to wade through all that on the right - especially from much of &quot;conservative&quot; media.
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There is nobody we can trust (as a group) to be fair arbiters of the &quot;truth&quot; (could argue this was maybe always the case).

Much of the &quot;conservative&quot; media seems as much in the bag for trump as the msm was likewise biased for obama the last eight years.
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Of course, that only works if they have an audience for it.

Seems that this manufactured sensationalism, this constant state of hyperbolic reaction on each side, and the resulting uncertainty / anxiety sells eyeballs.
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Our daily choices DO shape the world around us.  

Like the 2016 election, we do have other choices, but it is up to us to seek it out.
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It is deeply concerning that enough people find this all as a &quot;good&quot; thing (as seems the case at the moment), thus, not only will it continue, but it may well head to setting us all up for a time where we all get railroaded (by one side or the other - intentionally or by &quot;accident&quot;) into a situation we thought would never happen or would be possible (and very far from what &quot;we&quot; thought we were buying into for &quot;change&quot;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;What will Trump do today? Will it be good, okay, or counter-productive and harmful? And how relentless and distorting and over-the-top (and successful) will the negative media spin on it be?</p>
<p>And above all: where to find anything even approximating the truth? &#8220;</em> &#8211; Neo</p>
<p>Would add, in between those paragraphs, the following&#8230;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;And how supporters from the right will (or feel compelled to) twist themselves to defend, excuse, or ignore the latest from trump&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This exacerbates the difficulty of getting at the &#8220;truth&#8221; as we also have to wade through all that on the right &#8211; especially from much of &#8220;conservative&#8221; media.<br />
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<p>There is nobody we can trust (as a group) to be fair arbiters of the &#8220;truth&#8221; (could argue this was maybe always the case).</p>
<p>Much of the &#8220;conservative&#8221; media seems as much in the bag for trump as the msm was likewise biased for obama the last eight years.<br />
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<p>Of course, that only works if they have an audience for it.</p>
<p>Seems that this manufactured sensationalism, this constant state of hyperbolic reaction on each side, and the resulting uncertainty / anxiety sells eyeballs.<br />
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<p>Our daily choices DO shape the world around us.  </p>
<p>Like the 2016 election, we do have other choices, but it is up to us to seek it out.<br />
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<p>It is deeply concerning that enough people find this all as a &#8220;good&#8221; thing (as seems the case at the moment), thus, not only will it continue, but it may well head to setting us all up for a time where we all get railroaded (by one side or the other &#8211; intentionally or by &#8220;accident&#8221;) into a situation we thought would never happen or would be possible (and very far from what &#8220;we&#8221; thought we were buying into for &#8220;change&#8221;).</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/03/27/here-comes-your-19th-nervous-breakdown/#comment-2189338</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And look at the audience shots! Practically catatonic.&lt;/i&gt;

TommyJay: Well, that happens. As Rumsfeld said, &quot;You go to war with the army that you have.&quot;

Here&#039;s my favorite video of Dr. Feelgood, a big British band who never made it over here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHm7uIC84YM

The girls sort-of-dancing in the crowd are &quot;Geordies&quot; -- good middle-class girls from North England. They were hoping for a nice pop boy-band like the Bay City Rollers, not these intense, older, R&#038;B weirdos from Dr. Feelgood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And look at the audience shots! Practically catatonic.</i></p>
<p>TommyJay: Well, that happens. As Rumsfeld said, &#8220;You go to war with the army that you have.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my favorite video of Dr. Feelgood, a big British band who never made it over here.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHm7uIC84YM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHm7uIC84YM</a></p>
<p>The girls sort-of-dancing in the crowd are &#8220;Geordies&#8221; &#8212; good middle-class girls from North England. They were hoping for a nice pop boy-band like the Bay City Rollers, not these intense, older, R&amp;B weirdos from Dr. Feelgood.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 00:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay: I was struck in that Stones&#039; video how much it looked liked they were influenced by The Who. 

Jagger hadn&#039;t yet acquired his dance chops from Tina Turner and looked more like Roger Daltrey.  Brian Jones in the back was doing Pete Townshend windmill moves on the guitar.

But the Stones were always glorious magpies stealing from everyone -- Robert Johnson, Howlin&#039; Wolf, Slim Harpo, Chuck Berry, the Beatles and more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay: I was struck in that Stones&#8217; video how much it looked liked they were influenced by The Who. </p>
<p>Jagger hadn&#8217;t yet acquired his dance chops from Tina Turner and looked more like Roger Daltrey.  Brian Jones in the back was doing Pete Townshend windmill moves on the guitar.</p>
<p>But the Stones were always glorious magpies stealing from everyone &#8212; Robert Johnson, Howlin&#8217; Wolf, Slim Harpo, Chuck Berry, the Beatles and more.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 00:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Irene: You are most welcome. I love the poetry I love and it&#039;s a pleasure to pass some of it on.

Jeffers is an odd bird, his poetry is astringent and not for everyone, but you can always hear his voice and  usually get what he is saying -- unlike much modern poetry.

And thank you for the Judah Leon Gordon poem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irene: You are most welcome. I love the poetry I love and it&#8217;s a pleasure to pass some of it on.</p>
<p>Jeffers is an odd bird, his poetry is astringent and not for everyone, but you can always hear his voice and  usually get what he is saying &#8212; unlike much modern poetry.</p>
<p>And thank you for the Judah Leon Gordon poem.</p>
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		By: JuliB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JuliB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the &#039;factual&#039; media (as opposed to columnists and political analysts) could stick to the 5W&#039;s and H, things would be a lot easier.  But they feel they need to interpret the news, and tell us how to feel.  So they get hysterical.

I hope it causes great despair to those on the Left.    Me? I just ignore most of it, and don&#039;t get stressed about what I do pay attention to.  So as long as Gorsuch gets confirmed, the 2nd is safe, and the gov&#039;t stops hating on pro-lifers (and other religious affairs - which wasn&#039;t even a thing until a couple of years ago), I&#039;m content.

Yes, I&#039;m bummed about healthcare, illegals, terrorism, the economy, but these things will be compromise issues making everyone happy and unhappy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8216;factual&#8217; media (as opposed to columnists and political analysts) could stick to the 5W&#8217;s and H, things would be a lot easier.  But they feel they need to interpret the news, and tell us how to feel.  So they get hysterical.</p>
<p>I hope it causes great despair to those on the Left.    Me? I just ignore most of it, and don&#8217;t get stressed about what I do pay attention to.  So as long as Gorsuch gets confirmed, the 2nd is safe, and the gov&#8217;t stops hating on pro-lifers (and other religious affairs &#8211; which wasn&#8217;t even a thing until a couple of years ago), I&#8217;m content.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m bummed about healthcare, illegals, terrorism, the economy, but these things will be compromise issues making everyone happy and unhappy.</p>
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		By: Irene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Huxley

The House Dog&#039;s Grave is a real gem. A lament, a paen, a love-song all in one. 

When it stops raining (no, I&#039;m not made of sugar but it&#039;s chilly), I&#039;ll walk over to the bookstore and see if they have any of his volumes.

I very much appreciate your taking the time to post these poems!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huxley</p>
<p>The House Dog&#8217;s Grave is a real gem. A lament, a paen, a love-song all in one. </p>
<p>When it stops raining (no, I&#8217;m not made of sugar but it&#8217;s chilly), I&#8217;ll walk over to the bookstore and see if they have any of his volumes.</p>
<p>I very much appreciate your taking the time to post these poems!</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had about 50 thoughts on this post; I&#039;ll list a few.

IMHO we are in the midst of a cold civil war and I date the beginning &quot;capitulation&quot; date to Mitt Romney&#039;s phone-it-in campaign and loss.  It won&#039;t change into a Bolshevik war, but will look like Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, or if we are lucky Zalaya&#039;s failed take-over of Honduras.  Those represent the new model.

So yes, the best defense is a good offense.  Flood the theater of conflict.  Obama&#039;s people did do this, and the Dems and media are attempting to do so right now.  (The Trump/Russia collusion meme is the most absurd, alternate-universe, pile of crap I&#039;ve ever heard.)

It is not like the amateur Trump is monkeying with a finely tuned government.  Our government, at all levels, in most places, is a train wreck.  The goal, primarily, is a coast-to-coast Tammany Hall.

I recall seeing an extensive interview with Warren Buffett on CNBC, the third week of March, 2009.  I don&#039;t trust WB&#039;s political statements, but economically the guy is a wizard.  The time was just after Berkshire&#039;s annual statement to shareholders, but it was also just after the first large group of executive actions from the Obama Whitehouse.

The interviewer applied great pressure to get WB to rate these WH actions.  To my surprise, Buffett the Obama supporter said that they were all (almost all?) bad for the economy. It didn&#039;t get any better from there, nor did it slow down.

Lastly, now that the CIA and NSA are directly involved in our domestic politics, I&#039;ll recommend watching a mini series called &quot;The Assets,&quot; on Netflix.  I have seen Hollywood portrayals of the Aldrich Ames affair before, but this one was adapted from the book &quot;Circle of Treason&quot; written by the two women most responsible for taking down Ames.  It gives insight into the world of deception, disinformation, misdirection, and political arse-covering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had about 50 thoughts on this post; I&#8217;ll list a few.</p>
<p>IMHO we are in the midst of a cold civil war and I date the beginning &#8220;capitulation&#8221; date to Mitt Romney&#8217;s phone-it-in campaign and loss.  It won&#8217;t change into a Bolshevik war, but will look like Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, or if we are lucky Zalaya&#8217;s failed take-over of Honduras.  Those represent the new model.</p>
<p>So yes, the best defense is a good offense.  Flood the theater of conflict.  Obama&#8217;s people did do this, and the Dems and media are attempting to do so right now.  (The Trump/Russia collusion meme is the most absurd, alternate-universe, pile of crap I&#8217;ve ever heard.)</p>
<p>It is not like the amateur Trump is monkeying with a finely tuned government.  Our government, at all levels, in most places, is a train wreck.  The goal, primarily, is a coast-to-coast Tammany Hall.</p>
<p>I recall seeing an extensive interview with Warren Buffett on CNBC, the third week of March, 2009.  I don&#8217;t trust WB&#8217;s political statements, but economically the guy is a wizard.  The time was just after Berkshire&#8217;s annual statement to shareholders, but it was also just after the first large group of executive actions from the Obama Whitehouse.</p>
<p>The interviewer applied great pressure to get WB to rate these WH actions.  To my surprise, Buffett the Obama supporter said that they were all (almost all?) bad for the economy. It didn&#8217;t get any better from there, nor did it slow down.</p>
<p>Lastly, now that the CIA and NSA are directly involved in our domestic politics, I&#8217;ll recommend watching a mini series called &#8220;The Assets,&#8221; on Netflix.  I have seen Hollywood portrayals of the Aldrich Ames affair before, but this one was adapted from the book &#8220;Circle of Treason&#8221; written by the two women most responsible for taking down Ames.  It gives insight into the world of deception, disinformation, misdirection, and political arse-covering.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 17:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When ever I hear a drawn out utterance of &quot;Here it comes... ,&quot; my mind always goes to 19th Nervous Breakdown.  I skip video links 99% of the time, but I had to look.  So amusing ...

Because Jagger&#039;s voice is &quot;doubled&quot; in a multi-track recording studio, so it couldn&#039;t be live.  And no one is playing the descending guitar arpeggios at the end of the song.

And look at the audience shots!  Practically catatonic.  Imagine that this is almost the same time period when Pete Townsend was smashing his guitar in front of wild audiences.  My fave counterpoint would be the music video of Nirvana&#039;s &quot;It Smells like Teen Spirit.&quot; (I know, both 1st and last references are staged. But still...)

I love the part where Jagger is concentrating so hard on his hip gyrations that he misses the first half of the next line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ever I hear a drawn out utterance of &#8220;Here it comes&#8230; ,&#8221; my mind always goes to 19th Nervous Breakdown.  I skip video links 99% of the time, but I had to look.  So amusing &#8230;</p>
<p>Because Jagger&#8217;s voice is &#8220;doubled&#8221; in a multi-track recording studio, so it couldn&#8217;t be live.  And no one is playing the descending guitar arpeggios at the end of the song.</p>
<p>And look at the audience shots!  Practically catatonic.  Imagine that this is almost the same time period when Pete Townsend was smashing his guitar in front of wild audiences.  My fave counterpoint would be the music video of Nirvana&#8217;s &#8220;It Smells like Teen Spirit.&#8221; (I know, both 1st and last references are staged. But still&#8230;)</p>
<p>I love the part where Jagger is concentrating so hard on his hip gyrations that he misses the first half of the next line.</p>
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