Comments on: Trump’s threat?

By: The Other Chuck

The Other Chuck — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 05:24:57 +0000

Parker, no you are not “nuts” by any stretch, but what you say is the problem in a nutshell. Demographics and the Ponzi scheme that is Medicare (and Social Security) will someday soon come to an end. Extending national medical care to the general population only makes things worse and hastens the crisis. You and I have lived long enough to know what to expect, and have prepared accordingly.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 03:17:38 +0000

physicsguy Says:
March 24th, 2017 at 4:55 pm
Now that the bill has been pulled, I view it as a good thing. To me, it looks like the legislative process is working as intended. Yes, all the fighting is on the Republican side, but so what? It’s better to wait, and get a bill that works for everyone rather than rush through something in the first 3 months.
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In agreement:
http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/03/24/punting-ahca-vote-2017-declaration-independence/

http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/03/24/trump-gop-play-smart-kill-care-bill-advance-vote/

parker Says:
March 24th, 2017 at 9:45 pm
Well kiddies, once you turn 65 you are on ‘socialized’ healthcare, and then have to pay for supplemental insurance that partially covers what Uncle Sam does not cover.
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Which is why The Dems were able to “sell” ACA at all – because we are already conditioned with Medicare and Medicaid.
My preference is to totally eliminate every single government program and regulation on health insurance (not necessarily health care) and start over from scratch.
Grandmother in anyone over 55 to the existing system if they can’t be transitioned to a new one, and phase it out completely.

Tax-exempt HSAs and Whole Health Insurance should be available to everyone beginning at age 18 (they can vote, they can pay; even if they get the $$ from Mom&Dad) – level premiums so that the early “overpayments” fund the later “over uses” just like Whole Life.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 03:13:30 +0000

Artfldgr Says:
March 24th, 2017 at 1:27 pm

You might enjoy this piece by Wm. Voegeli.

http://www.claremont.org/crb/article/the-democratic-partys-identity-crisis/

By: parker

parker — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 01:45:46 +0000

Well kiddies, once you turn 65 you are on ‘socialized’ healthcare, and then have to pay for supplemental insurance that partially covers what Uncle Sam does not cover. The boat sailed long ago. At best we can expect entitlements to expand until they are no longer supportable when interest on the debt requires 50% of GDP.

Yes, I realize many will think I am nuts.

By: The Other Chuck

The Other Chuck — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:04:10 +0000

Dave, you pretend to be a conservative concerned about health care, and post inane comments that amount to little more than concern trolling. With this insistence on Medicare for all you show yourself as a Democrat or Democrat stooge. Medicare for all is single payer, which is exactly what the left wants. You are not convincing anyone.

By: physicsguy

physicsguy — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:55:02 +0000

Now that the bill has been pulled, I view it as a good thing. To me, it looks like the legislative process is working as intended. Yes, all the fighting is on the Republican side, but so what? It’s better to wait, and get a bill that works for everyone rather than rush through something in the first 3 months.

I keep contrasting this to what the Dems did with Obamacare. As is their practice, they all moved in complete lockstep. I think the last of independent thinking inside the Democrat party went away with Joe Lieberman.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:30:22 +0000

To defeat obamacare, medicare for all is the only option. The choice is simple, if socialized healthcare is inevitable, that Americans have overall accepted Healthcare is now an entitlement that the fed is responsible for, strategy wise it is much more beneficial for conservatives that we are the one implementing it and have our name associated with it instead of the democrats and obama, at least we will have more controls on how this “socialized” healthcare will be run, we can make it as fiscally responsible as possible. Sometimes in life choosing the less evil is the only option.

By: TommyJay

TommyJay — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:29:30 +0000

I don’t really buy Neo’s concern that Trump is engaging in too much strong-arming of Congress. Heck, I hoped he would fail in this case. And I respect the separation of powers and believe that Congress has already lost too much of theirs. But seriously, there is so much sloth in the country-club Republican congress, it is amazing that they function at all.

On this topic, how is it that the Dems can muster such unity? What goes on behind closed doors? Remember the Clinton’s big tax increase? It passed the House by one vote; the vote of Ms. Margolies-Mezvinsky who promptly lost her seat.

Now her son is Mr. Marc Mezvinsky-Clinton. He’s the guy that started his own hedge fund, pulled in 10’s of millions, skimmed his 20% I’m guessing, and quickly lost it all.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:15:04 +0000

If socialized healthcare is here to stay, will medicare for all be cheaper and more beneficial than ACA?

By: TommyJay

TommyJay — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:11:51 +0000

Ryancare is dead for now. I was surprised that Fox’s Chris Steyerwalt said that he thought that this would be for the best.

My preference would be a straight 100% repeal of Obamacare to start. If we could get past the Byrd/McConnell filibuster, I’d really like to see if McCain, Graham, Collins, and Snow would vote for it.