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		By: expat		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Powerline has a very good assessment of why the Russians would have hacked us.  The Hillary backers think that she is the center of the universe, but I think things look a little different on the other side of the globe.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/what-to-make-of-russias-unusually-loud-interference-in-the-2016-election.php]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerline has a very good assessment of why the Russians would have hacked us.  The Hillary backers think that she is the center of the universe, but I think things look a little different on the other side of the globe.<br />
<a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/what-to-make-of-russias-unusually-loud-interference-in-the-2016-election.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/what-to-make-of-russias-unusually-loud-interference-in-the-2016-election.php</a></p>
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		By: Manju		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/03/20/comeys-testimony-much-ado/#comment-2186912</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 07:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;That report found that Russia did launch a campaign, but it did not change the election outcome. &lt;/blockquote&gt;I doubt the report said this. The intelligence community has made no assessment as to whether Russian interference made a difference and said so during yesterday&#039;s testimony,

But they have determined that Russia didn&#039;t actually change vote tallies. That&#039;s very different conclusion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That report found that Russia did launch a campaign, but it did not change the election outcome. </p></blockquote>
<p>I doubt the report said this. The intelligence community has made no assessment as to whether Russian interference made a difference and said so during yesterday&#8217;s testimony,</p>
<p>But they have determined that Russia didn&#8217;t actually change vote tallies. That&#8217;s very different conclusion.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 04:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I get discouraged over politics and politicians, Gowdy always steps in. What a man! Comey hid and dodged behind &quot;the FBI never comments on an investigation&quot;. Though putting the lie to that by volunteering about the investigation into Russian connections earler this same day.
Slippery SOB is Comey. I&#039;m still trying to figure what his real game is. Nihilism, maybe. Takes out Hillary, now&#039;s trying to out Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I get discouraged over politics and politicians, Gowdy always steps in. What a man! Comey hid and dodged behind &#8220;the FBI never comments on an investigation&#8221;. Though putting the lie to that by volunteering about the investigation into Russian connections earler this same day.<br />
Slippery SOB is Comey. I&#8217;m still trying to figure what his real game is. Nihilism, maybe. Takes out Hillary, now&#8217;s trying to out Trump.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/03/20/comeys-testimony-much-ado/#comment-2186852</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 03:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cap&#039;n Rusty, thanks for the links. Gowdy, as usual, on point.

Big Maq, you obviously saw the Breitbart link and failed to read the article. Just alt-right propaganda, you&#039;re thinking. Wrong! This info was presented by Mark Levin on his show and also by Sean Hannity on his show.  

Here are some items that stood out for me:
&quot;4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found – but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.

7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies – the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the existence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.

8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn – then a private citizen – and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence about the content of the conversation.

9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims – and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.&quot;

These are all media reports that Levin catalogued showing that the media itself was outing the fact that the Trump campaign was being surveilled by the Obama administration. It is circumstantial evidence, (unnamed government officials or sources) but there is enough there to warrant investigating whether it was the Obama administration behind the leaks or if it was some disaffected intel spooks who didn&#039;t like Trump and decided they could bring him down? 

Remember it was campaign dirty tricks that led to the Nixon administration&#039;s downfall. Also remember that Obama&#039;s MO throughout his career has been to commit dirty tricks on his opponents.   He used the government to try to silence James Rosen, to attack TEA Party groups, to undermine the Second Amendment through Fast and Furious, etc.  So, we have the previous record of Obama to examine to determine if he is the sort who might do such things.

I think Gowdy was right on point and Comey was dancing like tenderfoot walking on hot coals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap&#8217;n Rusty, thanks for the links. Gowdy, as usual, on point.</p>
<p>Big Maq, you obviously saw the Breitbart link and failed to read the article. Just alt-right propaganda, you&#8217;re thinking. Wrong! This info was presented by Mark Levin on his show and also by Sean Hannity on his show.  </p>
<p>Here are some items that stood out for me:<br />
&#8220;4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found – but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.</p>
<p>6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.</p>
<p>7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies – the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the existence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.</p>
<p>8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn – then a private citizen – and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence about the content of the conversation.</p>
<p>9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims – and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are all media reports that Levin catalogued showing that the media itself was outing the fact that the Trump campaign was being surveilled by the Obama administration. It is circumstantial evidence, (unnamed government officials or sources) but there is enough there to warrant investigating whether it was the Obama administration behind the leaks or if it was some disaffected intel spooks who didn&#8217;t like Trump and decided they could bring him down? </p>
<p>Remember it was campaign dirty tricks that led to the Nixon administration&#8217;s downfall. Also remember that Obama&#8217;s MO throughout his career has been to commit dirty tricks on his opponents.   He used the government to try to silence James Rosen, to attack TEA Party groups, to undermine the Second Amendment through Fast and Furious, etc.  So, we have the previous record of Obama to examine to determine if he is the sort who might do such things.</p>
<p>I think Gowdy was right on point and Comey was dancing like tenderfoot walking on hot coals.</p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 02:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I keep reading the word &quot;wiretap&quot; and I do think Frog has hit the nail on the head. I am not sure it is worth actually, technically &quot;wiretapping&quot; any more. Plausible deniability - Comey can say, in all honesty, that no one &quot;wiretapped&quot; Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep reading the word &#8220;wiretap&#8221; and I do think Frog has hit the nail on the head. I am not sure it is worth actually, technically &#8220;wiretapping&#8221; any more. Plausible deniability &#8211; Comey can say, in all honesty, that no one &#8220;wiretapped&#8221; Trump.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 00:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yankee

There is no way that Putin wanted the candidate that supported fracking, KXL, DAPL and American energy. Right now we are exporting LNG to Europe and stealing market share from Russia.

Comey was way, way off base.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yankee</p>
<p>There is no way that Putin wanted the candidate that supported fracking, KXL, DAPL and American energy. Right now we are exporting LNG to Europe and stealing market share from Russia.</p>
<p>Comey was way, way off base.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 00:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[General Flynn was working inside Trump Tower after the election. This is when his conversations with the Russian diplomat was recorded and transcribed. 

Now was Flynn wiretapped or was some other method used? 

The media needs to learn not to take Trump literally and also recall that he used quotation marks around the words wire tapped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Flynn was working inside Trump Tower after the election. This is when his conversations with the Russian diplomat was recorded and transcribed. </p>
<p>Now was Flynn wiretapped or was some other method used? </p>
<p>The media needs to learn not to take Trump literally and also recall that he used quotation marks around the words wire tapped.</p>
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		By: Yankee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2017 23:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There were some real problems with Director Comey&#039;s testimony.  First off, he said that Vladimir Putin and Russia had a preference for Mr. Trump as President.  That&#039;s speculation.  What is the point of making such a statement, and what is he basing it on?  Comey has no business saying anything like that, because it&#039;s not part of his job.

Second, Mr. Comey (rather pompously) said that only a judge can order a wiretap.  No duh.  The real question is, who went to the judge in the first place to request a &quot;wiretap&quot; (or other surveillance) under the FISA act?  Only someone highly placed within the Justice Department, and hence part of the Obama administration, could do something like that.

Last, and most important, NO ONE has been able to state clearly, specifically, and definitively what it is that the Russians did to &quot;interfere&quot; in the election, or to &quot;collude&quot; with Mr. Trump and his associates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were some real problems with Director Comey&#8217;s testimony.  First off, he said that Vladimir Putin and Russia had a preference for Mr. Trump as President.  That&#8217;s speculation.  What is the point of making such a statement, and what is he basing it on?  Comey has no business saying anything like that, because it&#8217;s not part of his job.</p>
<p>Second, Mr. Comey (rather pompously) said that only a judge can order a wiretap.  No duh.  The real question is, who went to the judge in the first place to request a &#8220;wiretap&#8221; (or other surveillance) under the FISA act?  Only someone highly placed within the Justice Department, and hence part of the Obama administration, could do something like that.</p>
<p>Last, and most important, NO ONE has been able to state clearly, specifically, and definitively what it is that the Russians did to &#8220;interfere&#8221; in the election, or to &#8220;collude&#8221; with Mr. Trump and his associates.</p>
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		By: Cap'n Rusty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tha aim of Trey Gowdy, like any good prosecutor, is to convince the jury, not the newspapers. The American people are the jury.


&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzOjgFIe1U&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gowdy v Comey; Round One&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIh-CadZweI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gowdy v. Comey; Round Two&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tha aim of Trey Gowdy, like any good prosecutor, is to convince the jury, not the newspapers. The American people are the jury.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzOjgFIe1U" rel="nofollow">Gowdy v Comey; Round One</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIh-CadZweI" rel="nofollow">Gowdy v. Comey; Round Two</a></p>
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		By: Irv		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Big Maq - You toss around the word &#039;lie&#039; so often and so easily in talking about Trump.  You seem to regard all exaggerations, misstatements, generalizations and campaign rhetoric the same as the intentional lies of people like Obama and Clinton.  That&#039;s the way the left applied the word lie to almost everything Bush ever said.

How do you suppose that Trump&#039;s supporters knew that when he used  the word &#039;wiretapped&#039; he meant that Obama used the federal government resources to monitor him during the campaign and after the election?  How did we know when he said &#039;build a wall&#039; that he meant simply secure the border?  How did we know that when he talked about a Muslim ban that he meant terrorists and not 1.6 billion Muslims?  There are numerous other examples, too many to list here.

It simply amazes me that the media and the left simply cannot figure it out?  I guess Trump ought to hire an interpreter for the media and the anti-Trumpers in much the way sign language interpreters are used for the hearing impaired.

Maybe the problem isn&#039;t that they can&#039;t understand, maybe it&#039;s that they don&#039;t want to understand.  Possible?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Maq &#8211; You toss around the word &#8216;lie&#8217; so often and so easily in talking about Trump.  You seem to regard all exaggerations, misstatements, generalizations and campaign rhetoric the same as the intentional lies of people like Obama and Clinton.  That&#8217;s the way the left applied the word lie to almost everything Bush ever said.</p>
<p>How do you suppose that Trump&#8217;s supporters knew that when he used  the word &#8216;wiretapped&#8217; he meant that Obama used the federal government resources to monitor him during the campaign and after the election?  How did we know when he said &#8216;build a wall&#8217; that he meant simply secure the border?  How did we know that when he talked about a Muslim ban that he meant terrorists and not 1.6 billion Muslims?  There are numerous other examples, too many to list here.</p>
<p>It simply amazes me that the media and the left simply cannot figure it out?  I guess Trump ought to hire an interpreter for the media and the anti-Trumpers in much the way sign language interpreters are used for the hearing impaired.</p>
<p>Maybe the problem isn&#8217;t that they can&#8217;t understand, maybe it&#8217;s that they don&#8217;t want to understand.  Possible?</p>
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