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		By: chuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuck]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062; I wonder if Shaw was asexual?

It was a strange period. Later in life May Morris complained that the young socialist men of her youth didn&#039;t *do* anything. I assume that she wanted more than smart conversation...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I wonder if Shaw was asexual?</p>
<p>It was a strange period. Later in life May Morris complained that the young socialist men of her youth didn&#8217;t *do* anything. I assume that she wanted more than smart conversation&#8230;</p>
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		By: Matthew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Shaw was asexual?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Shaw was asexual?</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just found a gushing appreciation of Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady from 1964 that surprised me, largely because it was written by one of the Guardian&#039;s critics, and also considering that Emma Thompson a few years ago said that Hepburn was twee and couldn&#039;t act. From the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/23/my-fair-lady-audrey-hepburn-archive-1964&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;review&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;It is not that she speaks the proper Cockney better than her predecessors, which she does. Or that she is frail and virginal beyond the imaginings of her original creator, which she is. Or that she has developed a comic style half way between a waif and an angel, which she has. It is that she is as sensitive as a nerve-end to the slighted female whom Higgins and Pickering are handling like litmus paper.

This poignancy gives unforeseen depths and pathos to the conflict between her feelings and Higgins’s experiment. And in the homecoming after the Embassy ball, while the doltish bachelors go off into their orgy of self-congratulation (“you did it, you did it”) she stands in a half-shadow against the wall as heartbreaking and tristful as Henryson’s abandoned Cressida: “Then upon him she cast up both her eyen, And with ane blenk it come into his thought, That he sum tyme her face before had seene.”

We went out of the theatre reeling again at the stupidity of what had always seemed to be Ibsen’s fair comment on Shaw: “Shaw? The man who left emotion out of drama.” Ibsen, I guess, never knew Audrey Hepburn. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found a gushing appreciation of Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady from 1964 that surprised me, largely because it was written by one of the Guardian&#8217;s critics, and also considering that Emma Thompson a few years ago said that Hepburn was twee and couldn&#8217;t act. From the <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/23/my-fair-lady-audrey-hepburn-archive-1964" rel="nofollow">review</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is not that she speaks the proper Cockney better than her predecessors, which she does. Or that she is frail and virginal beyond the imaginings of her original creator, which she is. Or that she has developed a comic style half way between a waif and an angel, which she has. It is that she is as sensitive as a nerve-end to the slighted female whom Higgins and Pickering are handling like litmus paper.</p>
<p>This poignancy gives unforeseen depths and pathos to the conflict between her feelings and Higgins’s experiment. And in the homecoming after the Embassy ball, while the doltish bachelors go off into their orgy of self-congratulation (“you did it, you did it”) she stands in a half-shadow against the wall as heartbreaking and tristful as Henryson’s abandoned Cressida: “Then upon him she cast up both her eyen, And with ane blenk it come into his thought, That he sum tyme her face before had seene.”</p>
<p>We went out of the theatre reeling again at the stupidity of what had always seemed to be Ibsen’s fair comment on Shaw: “Shaw? The man who left emotion out of drama.” Ibsen, I guess, never knew Audrey Hepburn. </p></blockquote>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T: what a beautiful anecdote! Thanks. With a little bit of blooming luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T: what a beautiful anecdote! Thanks. With a little bit of blooming luck!</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 01:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a story (true?  apocryphal?) that one night, upon leaving the theater after a performance of &lt;i&gt;My Fair Lady&lt;/i&gt;  Rex Harrison and Stanley Holloway encountered an older woman, a fan, who had been standing in the rain waiting to get Rex Harrison&#039;s autograph.  Harrison refused her whereupon the woman rolled up her playbill and swatted Harrison.  Stanley Holloway broke out into laughter and said that he had just witnessed the first known instance of &quot;the fan hitting the shit.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a story (true?  apocryphal?) that one night, upon leaving the theater after a performance of <i>My Fair Lady</i>  Rex Harrison and Stanley Holloway encountered an older woman, a fan, who had been standing in the rain waiting to get Rex Harrison&#8217;s autograph.  Harrison refused her whereupon the woman rolled up her playbill and swatted Harrison.  Stanley Holloway broke out into laughter and said that he had just witnessed the first known instance of &#8220;the fan hitting the shit.&#8221;</p>
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		By: chuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm... and it seems that May Morris&#039; mother, Jane Morris née Burden, was Eliza in real life.

&lt;q&gt;Burden&#039;s education was limited and she was probably destined to go into domestic service like her mother. After her engagement, she was privately educated to become a rich gentleman&#039;s wife. Her keen intelligence allowed her to recreate herself. She was a voracious reader who became proficient in French and Italian and became an accomplished pianist with a strong background in classical music. Her manners and speech became refined to an extent that contemporaries referred to her as &quot;Queenly&quot;. Later in life, she had no trouble moving in upper class circles.&lt;/q&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; and it seems that May Morris&#8217; mother, Jane Morris née Burden, was Eliza in real life.</p>
<p><q>Burden&#8217;s education was limited and she was probably destined to go into domestic service like her mother. After her engagement, she was privately educated to become a rich gentleman&#8217;s wife. Her keen intelligence allowed her to recreate herself. She was a voracious reader who became proficient in French and Italian and became an accomplished pianist with a strong background in classical music. Her manners and speech became refined to an extent that contemporaries referred to her as &#8220;Queenly&#8221;. Later in life, she had no trouble moving in upper class circles.</q></p>
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		By: Susanamantha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susanamantha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t Julie Andrews make &quot;My Fair Lady&quot; the hit that it was on Broadway only to be passed over for the movie role? 

Audrey Hepburn, she who couldn&#039;t sing the role no matter how hard she tried, was a poor substitute in my mind also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Julie Andrews make &#8220;My Fair Lady&#8221; the hit that it was on Broadway only to be passed over for the movie role? </p>
<p>Audrey Hepburn, she who couldn&#8217;t sing the role no matter how hard she tried, was a poor substitute in my mind also.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what’s up with all those “h”s? asks Neo. Watch MFL- its all about aitches! Cockney aitches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what’s up with all those “h”s? asks Neo. Watch MFL- its all about aitches! Cockney aitches.</p>
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		By: chuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe that &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Morris&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;May Morris&lt;/a&gt; was the love of Shaw&#039;s life and, thwarted in love, he never recovered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Morris" rel="nofollow">May Morris</a> was the love of Shaw&#8217;s life and, thwarted in love, he never recovered.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;My Fair Lady&quot; is a wonderful romantic fantasy. 
Pymaglion appears to want to have it both ways, i.e. a realistic fantasy. But by definition, can a &#039;fantasy&#039; be realistic? 
Shaw&#039;s original play tells an interesting story but clearly Shaw understood that proper diction and &#039;good manners&#039; alone do not in and of themselves a lady make. And that even if Eliza possessed the inherent dignity of a lady, class distinction are based on subconscious acceptance of the social class&#039;s underlying beliefs and attitudes. Thus, &quot;of course&quot; they didn&#039;t get back together...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My Fair Lady&#8221; is a wonderful romantic fantasy.<br />
Pymaglion appears to want to have it both ways, i.e. a realistic fantasy. But by definition, can a &#8216;fantasy&#8217; be realistic?<br />
Shaw&#8217;s original play tells an interesting story but clearly Shaw understood that proper diction and &#8216;good manners&#8217; alone do not in and of themselves a lady make. And that even if Eliza possessed the inherent dignity of a lady, class distinction are based on subconscious acceptance of the social class&#8217;s underlying beliefs and attitudes. Thus, &#8220;of course&#8221; they didn&#8217;t get back together&#8230;</p>
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