Comments on: Even moderates are complaining to the Times about bias

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:48:54 +0000

I see moderates as a kind of extremist, except they are extremely confident that by sitting on a fence, they are neutral and thus superior than either side.

Some people truly are in the middle, as peace makers or temperate compromisers or statesmen such as Lincoln or British Prime Ministers of well renown.Those are the rare ones, not the moderates.

By: Big Maq

Big Maq — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 16:56:00 +0000

@Bill – that’s great advice.

By: Gringo

Gringo — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 20:10:03 +0000

Mrs Whatsit
Here’s Liz Spayd on the NYT’s disastrous coverage of the last-minute run-up to Election Day in November 2016. The comments are fascinating.

I also found the comments fascinating. As the highest rated comments are of the “Trump supporters are deplorables” variety, my guess is that the NYT can still make money being a partisan rag while feigning objectivity. By being the national brand for the unhinged Democrat [am I showing any bias? 🙂 ], it will survive while less prominent newspapers will fall.

By: stu

stu — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 16:49:13 +0000

Unfortunately one has to read a cross section of the English press to get a reasonably accurate picture of news here.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 02:57:11 +0000

I think a good strategy is triangulation. Don’t just read opinion sites. Read real news but read multiple sources from different biases. I regularly read Fox news, BBC, and CNN. You can piece together something approaching the truth by doing that, I believe.

I’ve been avoiding the screaming pile that is social media 🙂

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 02:16:04 +0000

Take it from me, a former Republican who is still conservative and who has complained about liberal media bias for decades.

Both sides are incredibly biased.

By: Mrs Whatsit

Mrs Whatsit — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 00:35:53 +0000

Here’s Liz Spayd on the NYT’s disastrous coverage of the last-minute run-up to Election Day in November 2016. The comments are fascinating.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/public-editor/one-thing-voters-agree-on-better-campaign-coverage-was-needed.html

By: parker

parker — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 22:20:48 +0000

“The big difference now is that a large part of the public… takes the WP… as impartial.”

Sadly, this is 100% correct..

By: Griffin

Griffin — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 21:30:16 +0000

It is somewhat of a myth that we have ever had an impartial media in this country. Dating back to the Adams/Jefferson election of 1800 at least there have been newspapers that were really just organs of specific candidates and then political parties. Sometimes the reasons weren’t just ideological either as one early reason for a newspaper to support a candidate was to curry favor in order to get government printing contracts which were big deals in those days.

As the years went by the parties started having their own newspaper mouthpieces in all major cities and that is why so many newspapers were called the ‘Press Democrat’ or ‘Republican Register’ or some such thing. These papers would always support their party and often times just make stuff up about the other side.

The big difference now is that a large part of the public is unaware of the reality and takes the WP, NYTimes, and CNN as impartial when in fact they are no different than the old Press Democrat.

By: parker

parker — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 21:10:03 +0000

I think Spayd does not fully realize that the NYT and the msm in general actively creates a toxic atmosphere in society at large. The left decryed any criticism of bho as racist. Any criticism of open boards is racist. Any criticism of many violent adherents of Islam is Islamophobic. Any criticism of abortion is sexist. Any criticism of boys in the girls shower room is transphobic. Any criticism of suing a pizza shop because they don’t want to cater a gay wedding is homophobic.

Eventually many people on the right begin to see the left as the enemy because the left tells them they are the deplorable enemy. If there still is a center it is so tiny it can not hold.