Comments on: The Times again, truth again, and Trump again

By: Assistant Village Idiot

Assistant Village Idiot — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 20:57:29 +0000

Liberal or conservative, religious or secular, any organization that has “truth” in its title should be immediately suspect. This ad is the next best thing.

Honest John’s Used Cars.

By: Jon Jewett

Jon Jewett — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 20:32:49 +0000

The New York Times has not been about the truth, at least not for the last century or so.
http://holodomorct.org/history.html

By: Lizzy

Lizzy — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:14:31 +0000

FYI, NEO: The NRA has created a response ad to the NYTimes ad – and it is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpDcP2yJ_Wk

By: Steve S

Steve S — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 04:29:51 +0000

I have been receiving those email solicitations from the NYT for so long that I no longer remember when they first started to arrive. How interesting, then, to note that “offer ends soon” had been a phrase in nearly every offer throughout their whole email campaign.

I suppose the argument could be made that each offer did indeed end very soon after its email advising me of it arrived, but that an identical offer was immediately generated upon the expiration of its forerunner. If that’s the way of it, the campaign is deceitful; if that is not the way of it, then it is a long-standing, repeated lie.

It appears that “the truth is hard to find” even in the NYT solicitation advertising. I surely don’t find any truth there.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 03:55:10 +0000

Pushback: for the Times, they are a-changin’ — and not for the better. Watching the NRA skewer the NYT: priceless.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/nra-mocks-new-york-times-new-ad/

The NRA’s ad questions why the Times believes truth is more important now than in previous years.

“The New York Times placed an ad during the Oscars to tell us that truth is more important now,” text in the ad reads. “But why now? Wasn’t it important when people were marching? When jobs were declining? When threats were growing? When drugs were flowing? When diplomacy was straining? When policies were failing? When towns were collapsing? When red lines were vanishing? When Obama was lying? When journalists were dying? When Christians were dying? When heroes were dying? When citizens were dying?” “Now, they want your trust?”

The NRA said the Times did not care about the truth when it was bad for liberals. The group said America doesn’t believe the paper anymore.

“The truth is that the truth didn’t matter to the New York Times then as much as now–because as long as liberals were ‘progressing,’ the truth was depressing,” the NRA said in a statement. “America has stopped looking to the New York Times for the truth, now more than ever. The times are burning and the media elites have been caught holding the match.”

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:58:36 +0000

A clear case of false advertising. Class action lawsuit.

By: Ira

Ira — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:48:56 +0000

Thank you neo-neocon for the excellent essay.

Here is the link to the article by “Streiff” that so ably debunked the NY Times:

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/02/28/new-york-times-deliberately-misquote-donald-trumps-cpac-speech/

I point this out for the few people like me who get lost in, among other things, pronouns. At first I thought that the article debunking the NY Times had been published by the NY Times’ own ombudsman.

By: JP

JP — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:24:15 +0000

Hi Neo,

a dig at Kellyanne Conway’s widely-excoriated “alternative facts” remark–which merely pointed out that there is often disagreement on the facts

It was actually a misquote that Chuck Todd persisted in even when Conway corrected him. I think you’re giving the NYT too much credit in this case. 😉

Here’s the timeline and quotes:
https://www.truthmapping.com/map/1698/