Couple that with some contradictory rulings in other states, it is a good bet that this “precedent” is a relatively weak one.

Calling the first EO a “mulligan” (clever term), and issuing a new one with a stronger / tighter legal rationale (and well within Constitutional limitation) can push forward and “negate” that “precedent”, if challenged and won (which they’d seemingly have a higher chance of, if done right).

Admitting error and lessons learned would go a long way for trump (if he were to choose to do so), and, as huxley points out, would stand in sharp contrast to obama’s handling of the obamacare rollout.

I think the idea is that the ruling of the 9th becomes precedent unless overruled.

Of course it doesn’t look good to have botched the first EO, but it’s not as bad as blowing a billion on a hot mess of a website and telling Ameircans they will love it.

But if it sets into motion a legal trainwreck that will take months or years to undo, that’s something else.

If this is so true and inevitable, then why the h*ll did trump issue this EO?

Ah, yes, it must be 3-D chess! Yes, that’s it, obviously! ….

“an order restraining the EO was well-expected by the White House.”

How can one know this is true?…

“President Trump’s rather calm reaction to all of this indicates (so)”

Calm? Yeah, right! More like a middle – high schooler with a bit of a temper…
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827867311054974976
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-returns-to-criticism-of-court-system-its-so-political/article/2614233

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Couldn’t be more of a blue vs red team argument.

How about we recognize trump and all his flaws and mistakes for what they are, and hold him accountable?

And, cheer him on for the good he actually does? (Such has many of his cabinet picks, and his SCOTUS pick)

Any strategy is fine with me, as long as we don’t get to President Trump repeating Andrew Jackson’s line about the Supreme Court: John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.”

Seems to me there are other options that probably don’t require something so showy.

Are there not additional criteria that could be implemented to make the vetting “extreme”? Might accomplish much the same thing without an explicit travel “ban”.

Longer term – House refugees in Turkey or Jordan? After all, it was obama’s acceptance of refugees that precipitated this.

Over reliance on EOs will probably be more show and show-down. Great political theater, for a blue vs red team hot debate, I suppose.

I go regularly to a Gold’s Gym here in Oak Ridge, TN, and have done so for the last 3 and 1/2 years. Until about two or three weeks ago, in the early afternoon two Hispanic people used to do the basic cleaning chores for the entire gym- things like refilling the liquid cleaning bottles, the hand-soap dispensers, vacuuming and mopping the floors. One was young man around 30 or so years old, and the second was middle-aged woman. My impression on watching them work was that it was mother and son. At some point in the last 2-3 weeks, both were replaced by two white as white can be cleaning people.

I didn’t really think anything of it until just the last day or so- I wonder if larger employers were put on notice about employing illegal immigrants after the inauguration.

Fancy that. An administration that might consider consequences . . .

Barry didn’t even offer a rationale.