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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2173073</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 18:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought the blame was on Rio?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the blame was on Rio?</p>
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		By: Tatterdemalian		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2173016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatterdemalian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be nice to think they&#039;re breaking the media conditioning, but the more likely reality is that Turnbull is seen as a conservative (the Australian Liberal party is their analogue to the Republicans, while Labor is the Democrats), and the ABC is willing to give Trump a pass for now if it gives them an angle from which to attack Turnbull.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice to think they&#8217;re breaking the media conditioning, but the more likely reality is that Turnbull is seen as a conservative (the Australian Liberal party is their analogue to the Republicans, while Labor is the Democrats), and the ABC is willing to give Trump a pass for now if it gives them an angle from which to attack Turnbull.</p>
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		By: Tom G		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When/if Scott Adams&#039; is likely to say is that Trump, the Master Persuader, will be taken as a &quot;given&quot; in other countries (democratic and not).  Thus, the US-country relationship will be based significantly on how that country&#039;s leader responds to Trump (the given).

For every single country in the world, they benefit more from good relations with the US and are hurt more with bad relations with the US, than the US is.

Wherever the relations get worse, the locals will more correctly blame the local leaders.  Tho &quot;worse&quot; might be debatable based on contrary indicators.

Few really argue that Trump is bad at negotiation -- yet few political pundits are focusing on &quot;politics as negotiation&quot;.

Final pleasant nightmare -- Trump uses Kelo based eminent domain to take over some rich Hillary supporter&#039;s mansion in a Sanctuary City to deposit 1 refugee per room &quot;temporarily&quot;. (Or Meryl Streep&#039;s?)

Not gonna happen;
not good if did happen;
but such thoughts have some pleasure for me, and I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a fully bad part of my mind.

Maybe Trump&#039;s &quot;punish enemies&quot; thinking is related.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When/if Scott Adams&#8217; is likely to say is that Trump, the Master Persuader, will be taken as a &#8220;given&#8221; in other countries (democratic and not).  Thus, the US-country relationship will be based significantly on how that country&#8217;s leader responds to Trump (the given).</p>
<p>For every single country in the world, they benefit more from good relations with the US and are hurt more with bad relations with the US, than the US is.</p>
<p>Wherever the relations get worse, the locals will more correctly blame the local leaders.  Tho &#8220;worse&#8221; might be debatable based on contrary indicators.</p>
<p>Few really argue that Trump is bad at negotiation &#8212; yet few political pundits are focusing on &#8220;politics as negotiation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Final pleasant nightmare &#8212; Trump uses Kelo based eminent domain to take over some rich Hillary supporter&#8217;s mansion in a Sanctuary City to deposit 1 refugee per room &#8220;temporarily&#8221;. (Or Meryl Streep&#8217;s?)</p>
<p>Not gonna happen;<br />
not good if did happen;<br />
but such thoughts have some pleasure for me, and I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a fully bad part of my mind.</p>
<p>Maybe Trump&#8217;s &#8220;punish enemies&#8221; thinking is related.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok, I will blame Rita and Eydie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I will blame Rita and Eydie.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 01:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley; parker:

No---put the blame on Mame.

Or, perhaps, the Bossa Nova, with its magic spell.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley; parker:</p>
<p>No&#8212;put the blame on Mame.</p>
<p>Or, perhaps, the Bossa Nova, with its magic spell.</p>
<p><iframe width="460" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/e-LO9Ay6v_M?start=18" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p><iframe width="460" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7XpWOBEZLEs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 23:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I blame George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and the Bee Gees.

Seriously, there can only be so much madness until events spiral down to chaos. Chaos is a precursor to war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and the Bee Gees.</p>
<p>Seriously, there can only be so much madness until events spiral down to chaos. Chaos is a precursor to war.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert - you are correct &#038; I think neo noted the other day that Oz is between a rock &#038; a hard place with not wanting to encourage people-smuggling, so they have to say &quot;no boat arrivals,&quot; but they already have thousands of detained boat arrivals &#038; no real plan of action for them.

Sending them back is politically untenable &#038; bringing them in doesn&#039;t work either...so 0 found a willing Turnbull &#038; now 0 has clearly screwed Trump &#038; our Aussie allies...who were all too eager to join in the screw-Trump effort. So maybe Turnbull is getting what he deserved. 

I give him 90 days...if that...then he&#039;s gone. I hate making predictions...but wait &#038; see. Can&#039;t do any worse than 538 ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert &#8211; you are correct &amp; I think neo noted the other day that Oz is between a rock &amp; a hard place with not wanting to encourage people-smuggling, so they have to say &#8220;no boat arrivals,&#8221; but they already have thousands of detained boat arrivals &amp; no real plan of action for them.</p>
<p>Sending them back is politically untenable &amp; bringing them in doesn&#8217;t work either&#8230;so 0 found a willing Turnbull &amp; now 0 has clearly screwed Trump &amp; our Aussie allies&#8230;who were all too eager to join in the screw-Trump effort. So maybe Turnbull is getting what he deserved. </p>
<p>I give him 90 days&#8230;if that&#8230;then he&#8217;s gone. I hate making predictions&#8230;but wait &amp; see. Can&#8217;t do any worse than 538 😉</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172802</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump could make the leftists even more crazed by letting them come in and then use an EO to house them in GITMO until the &#039;refugees&#039; can be properly vetted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump could make the leftists even more crazed by letting them come in and then use an EO to house them in GITMO until the &#8216;refugees&#8217; can be properly vetted.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The mass media has already set the narrative in the minds of the LIVs. Bad, bad Trump. Alienating even our closest allies. Gasp!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mass media has already set the narrative in the minds of the LIVs. Bad, bad Trump. Alienating even our closest allies. Gasp!</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/08/australians-blame-turnbull/#comment-2172763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I blame George W. Bush.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame George W. Bush.</p>
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