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		By: Mrs Whatsit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2178744</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2017 23:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley, thank you. It&#039;s nice to have you back, too. You were missed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley, thank you. It&#8217;s nice to have you back, too. You were missed.</p>
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		By: Mrs Whatsit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2172863</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 02:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, I do want to step back from my use of the word &quot;hypocrite.&quot; I&#039;ve been talking to some teacher friends and have learned more about DeVos than I knew when I made my previous post.  She said some pretty hair-raising things during her confirmation hearings that raise very serious questions about her knowledge of education and her qualifications, completely apart from her positions on school choice.  If I&#039;d known about them, I&#039;d have been gentler in my choice of words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I do want to step back from my use of the word &#8220;hypocrite.&#8221; I&#8217;ve been talking to some teacher friends and have learned more about DeVos than I knew when I made my previous post.  She said some pretty hair-raising things during her confirmation hearings that raise very serious questions about her knowledge of education and her qualifications, completely apart from her positions on school choice.  If I&#8217;d known about them, I&#8217;d have been gentler in my choice of words.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2172783</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 21:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;All of them are beside themselves over DeVos, and I’m mystified as to why these good and caring people cannot see their own hypocrisy.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I have a number of teachers in my family as well. Some work with special needs kids.

They are beside themselves as well.

I am kind of this-way/that-way about DeVos. I think she was put in the mix because she&#039;s a big donor and I don&#039;t think she&#039;s particularly qualified, but I&#039;d like the federal government&#039;s sway over school districts to be diminished.

All that being said, I would never call my family members &quot;hypocrites&quot;. Especially because they are actually teachers and I&#039;m not.

One of the biggest problems that exacerbates all our other problems - we don&#039;t listen to each other anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;All of them are beside themselves over DeVos, and I’m mystified as to why these good and caring people cannot see their own hypocrisy.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I have a number of teachers in my family as well. Some work with special needs kids.</p>
<p>They are beside themselves as well.</p>
<p>I am kind of this-way/that-way about DeVos. I think she was put in the mix because she&#8217;s a big donor and I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s particularly qualified, but I&#8217;d like the federal government&#8217;s sway over school districts to be diminished.</p>
<p>All that being said, I would never call my family members &#8220;hypocrites&#8221;. Especially because they are actually teachers and I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p>One of the biggest problems that exacerbates all our other problems &#8211; we don&#8217;t listen to each other anymore.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2172546</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 04:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit Says: 
February 7th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
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As for the fear that charter schools will siphon off the best students, that’s entirely up to the public schools. If charter schools reveal methods and techniques that work better for capable students than those used in the public schools, and the public schools choose not to adopt them for whatever reasons of contractual limitations, teacher convenience, union calcification or whatever – &lt;b&gt;well then, whose fault is it, if children and parents decide to abandon ship?&lt;/b&gt;

I speak as someone who comes from a family packed with capable, dedicated educators who do genuinely care about kids and who believe themselves to be committed to the needs of children above their own. All of them are beside themselves over DeVos, and&lt;b&gt;I’m mystified as to why these good and caring people cannot see their own hypocrisy.&lt;/b&gt;
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An excellent comment, and a good suggestion on specialization (my grandson is autistic and doing very well in a school that has made helping special needs kids a high priority).
You could take the final graf and apply it to almost any political issue today.

The ability of the Democrats, in general, to hold mutually contradictory positions without recognizing the problem argues for cynical and entrenched hypocrisy, or cognitive dissonance on an massive level.

The Left, of course, is maintaining a very consistent position: whatever advances their power is the principle they support today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Whatsit Says:<br />
February 7th, 2017 at 10:21 pm<br />
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As for the fear that charter schools will siphon off the best students, that’s entirely up to the public schools. If charter schools reveal methods and techniques that work better for capable students than those used in the public schools, and the public schools choose not to adopt them for whatever reasons of contractual limitations, teacher convenience, union calcification or whatever – <b>well then, whose fault is it, if children and parents decide to abandon ship?</b></p>
<p>I speak as someone who comes from a family packed with capable, dedicated educators who do genuinely care about kids and who believe themselves to be committed to the needs of children above their own. All of them are beside themselves over DeVos, and<b>I’m mystified as to why these good and caring people cannot see their own hypocrisy.</b><br />
* * *<br />
An excellent comment, and a good suggestion on specialization (my grandson is autistic and doing very well in a school that has made helping special needs kids a high priority).<br />
You could take the final graf and apply it to almost any political issue today.</p>
<p>The ability of the Democrats, in general, to hold mutually contradictory positions without recognizing the problem argues for cynical and entrenched hypocrisy, or cognitive dissonance on an massive level.</p>
<p>The Left, of course, is maintaining a very consistent position: whatever advances their power is the principle they support today.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Whatsit: 

Great comment! Good to hear from you again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Whatsit: </p>
<p>Great comment! Good to hear from you again.</p>
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		By: Mrs Whatsit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2172537</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 03:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There is a legitimate objection to charter schools, and that’s special needs children. Charter schools will never have the resources to deal with these children. The other complaint is that charter schools will siphon off the better students in under-performing schools, leaving the public schools with the worst of the worst.&quot;

These are fair and reasonable objections. But if public schools are best equipped to deal with special needs children, then they should grasp that capacity and capitalize upon it as a particular strength. It&#039;s needed and valuable, and there&#039;s no reason to use that special capacity as an excuse for holding back the development of other children who don&#039;t have the same needs. As for the fear that charter schools will siphon off the best students, that&#039;s entirely up to the public schools. If charter schools reveal methods and techniques that work better for capable students than those used in the public schools, and the public schools choose not to adopt them for whatever reasons of contractual limitations, teacher convenience, union calcification or whatever -- well then, whose fault is it, if children and parents decide to abandon ship?  

I speak as someone who comes from a family packed with capable, dedicated educators who do genuinely care about kids and who believe themselves to be committed to the needs of children above their own. All of them are beside themselves over DeVos, and I&#039;m mystified as to why these good and caring people cannot see their own hypocrisy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a legitimate objection to charter schools, and that’s special needs children. Charter schools will never have the resources to deal with these children. The other complaint is that charter schools will siphon off the better students in under-performing schools, leaving the public schools with the worst of the worst.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are fair and reasonable objections. But if public schools are best equipped to deal with special needs children, then they should grasp that capacity and capitalize upon it as a particular strength. It&#8217;s needed and valuable, and there&#8217;s no reason to use that special capacity as an excuse for holding back the development of other children who don&#8217;t have the same needs. As for the fear that charter schools will siphon off the best students, that&#8217;s entirely up to the public schools. If charter schools reveal methods and techniques that work better for capable students than those used in the public schools, and the public schools choose not to adopt them for whatever reasons of contractual limitations, teacher convenience, union calcification or whatever &#8212; well then, whose fault is it, if children and parents decide to abandon ship?  </p>
<p>I speak as someone who comes from a family packed with capable, dedicated educators who do genuinely care about kids and who believe themselves to be committed to the needs of children above their own. All of them are beside themselves over DeVos, and I&#8217;m mystified as to why these good and caring people cannot see their own hypocrisy.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2172496</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In addition to partially breaking the hold of the unions, more types of schools may also break the hold of some theories of the educational elites that choke public schools. It may give local school boards room to toss ideas about things like disparate impact WRT discipline. Teachers might get behind dumping ideas that have been frustrating them for years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to partially breaking the hold of the unions, more types of schools may also break the hold of some theories of the educational elites that choke public schools. It may give local school boards room to toss ideas about things like disparate impact WRT discipline. Teachers might get behind dumping ideas that have been frustrating them for years.</p>
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		By: GRA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-confirmed/#comment-2172489</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 01:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On facebook a handful of my &quot;friends&quot; have concerns about DeVos. Here are there comments.

&quot; Trump, betsy, and voldemort [Pence]&quot;
&quot; The Destroyer of Public Education&quot;

One compared DeVos to Professor Umbridge (not knowing much about education).

A more fairer critique: 
&quot;Objectively, DeVos doesn&#039;t know the issues that Public Schools are going through. This is not a conservative/liberal thing. She couldn&#039;t articulate her understanding on the Proficiency vs Growth debate. That&#039;s simply bad for executing ANY policy regardless your sentiments of Public Schooling or the direction education should go.&quot;
&quot; And not knowing there are already federal laws protecting children with disabilities was frightening&quot;

I haven&#039;t seen the video of which they speak so they could be bringing up decent points.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On facebook a handful of my &#8220;friends&#8221; have concerns about DeVos. Here are there comments.</p>
<p>&#8221; Trump, betsy, and voldemort [Pence]&#8221;<br />
&#8221; The Destroyer of Public Education&#8221;</p>
<p>One compared DeVos to Professor Umbridge (not knowing much about education).</p>
<p>A more fairer critique:<br />
&#8220;Objectively, DeVos doesn&#8217;t know the issues that Public Schools are going through. This is not a conservative/liberal thing. She couldn&#8217;t articulate her understanding on the Proficiency vs Growth debate. That&#8217;s simply bad for executing ANY policy regardless your sentiments of Public Schooling or the direction education should go.&#8221;<br />
&#8221; And not knowing there are already federal laws protecting children with disabilities was frightening&#8221;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the video of which they speak so they could be bringing up decent points.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 23:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[junior:

Elders &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s248&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;passed&lt;/a&gt; with a large margin.

Most of the ones who ran into problems with a Senate controlled by the president&#039;s own party (as is the case now) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-01-11/4-key-times-presidential-nominees-failed-to-gain-senate-confirmation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;had hired&lt;/a&gt; illegal immigrants as nannies or that sort of thing.  Their nominations were ordinarily pulled before a vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>junior:</p>
<p>Elders <a href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s248" rel="nofollow">passed</a> with a large margin.</p>
<p>Most of the ones who ran into problems with a Senate controlled by the president&#8217;s own party (as is the case now) <a href="http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-01-11/4-key-times-presidential-nominees-failed-to-gain-senate-confirmation" rel="nofollow">had hired</a> illegal immigrants as nannies or that sort of thing.  Their nominations were ordinarily pulled before a vote.</p>
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		By: junior		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spicer should respond with; “Today, Senate Democrats did what has never been done before, attempted to dictate to a new President whom he may choose for his cabinet, forcing the VP to derail the attempt.”
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Didn&#039;t Clinton get a couple stopped?  Jocelyn Elders comes to mind.  Though I suppose it&#039;s possible that she got pulled before it came to a vote due to how unpopular the choice proved to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spicer should respond with; “Today, Senate Democrats did what has never been done before, attempted to dictate to a new President whom he may choose for his cabinet, forcing the VP to derail the attempt.”<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Clinton get a couple stopped?  Jocelyn Elders comes to mind.  Though I suppose it&#8217;s possible that she got pulled before it came to a vote due to how unpopular the choice proved to be.</p>
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