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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/06/so-was-it-the-best-catch-ever/#comment-2172414</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 21:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I also have a &quot;different feeling&quot; about the NY suburb part of CT.  We basically agree- just that you used some hyperbole.

That &quot;different feeling&quot; also translated into politics. I did some research comparing 2012 to 2008 in CT. Overall, Hillary&#039;s % of the CT vote was 4% less than what Obama got in 2012. 

However, there were some outliers, where Hillary&#039;s % of the vote was greater than what Obama got in 2012. These outliers were nearly all  from the wealthy NY suburb part of CT.  New Caanan and Darien, which are the two wealthiest towns in CT, were also the towns where Hillary outpolled Obama by the greatest percentage. As they did well by President Goldman Sachs, they decided to vote for his heiress.


The six towns where Hillary outpolled Obama by 10% or more -all from Fairfield County- had an average per capita income of $92,000. The 39 towns where Obama outpolled Hillary by 10% or more, including my home town,  had an average per capita income of $30,000. 



Polling figures from Htfd Courant and CT Secretary of State. PC income from Wikipedia (2010)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I also have a &#8220;different feeling&#8221; about the NY suburb part of CT.  We basically agree- just that you used some hyperbole.</p>
<p>That &#8220;different feeling&#8221; also translated into politics. I did some research comparing 2012 to 2008 in CT. Overall, Hillary&#8217;s % of the CT vote was 4% less than what Obama got in 2012. </p>
<p>However, there were some outliers, where Hillary&#8217;s % of the vote was greater than what Obama got in 2012. These outliers were nearly all  from the wealthy NY suburb part of CT.  New Caanan and Darien, which are the two wealthiest towns in CT, were also the towns where Hillary outpolled Obama by the greatest percentage. As they did well by President Goldman Sachs, they decided to vote for his heiress.</p>
<p>The six towns where Hillary outpolled Obama by 10% or more -all from Fairfield County- had an average per capita income of $92,000. The 39 towns where Obama outpolled Hillary by 10% or more, including my home town,  had an average per capita income of $30,000. </p>
<p>Polling figures from Htfd Courant and CT Secretary of State. PC income from Wikipedia (2010)</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 20:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo:

Oh, I know there are parts of Connecticut that are classically New England.  I didn&#039;t mean to imply that there weren&#039;t.  It was really just a lighthearted remark of mine to convey the idea that (a) I think many parts are just suburbs of NY; and (b) I just get a different &lt;i&gt;feeling&lt;/i&gt; about much of Connecticut.

That &quot;different feeling&quot; is hard to pinpoint, but I think it&#039;s a combination of the New Yorkish feel of some of the big cities in the southern tier, as well as the moneyed fanciness of some of the towns further north but not too far north, and just a general sense of more snootiness there (in some of those towns I&#039;ve visited, that is).  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo:</p>
<p>Oh, I know there are parts of Connecticut that are classically New England.  I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that there weren&#8217;t.  It was really just a lighthearted remark of mine to convey the idea that (a) I think many parts are just suburbs of NY; and (b) I just get a different <i>feeling</i> about much of Connecticut.</p>
<p>That &#8220;different feeling&#8221; is hard to pinpoint, but I think it&#8217;s a combination of the New Yorkish feel of some of the big cities in the southern tier, as well as the moneyed fanciness of some of the towns further north but not too far north, and just a general sense of more snootiness there (in some of those towns I&#8217;ve visited, that is).  </p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 18:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: as a native of rural CT, I &lt;b&gt;very much&lt;/b&gt; felt being a part of New England. The old houses in my hometown were very much like the old houses I saw in MA, VT, NH, RI, &#038; ME. 

My hometown had a typical NE  combination  of old Yankees, the  more recent NE immigrant mix of Irish/Italian/Eastern Europe, and people from &quot;away&quot; whose jobs had taken them to NE. [But not from Noo Yawk City.] I went to school with a number of  people whose  famous CT ancestors grace our history books, including famous ancestors from that same home town. As Faulkner said, &quot;The past is never dead. It&#039;s not even past.&quot;  The Yankees  were unpretentious sorts who  hardly ever talked about their famous ancestors and who never made  non-Yankees feel inferior for not having those famous ancestors. It&#039;s hard to be pretentious when you shovel cow manure on your family&#039;s dairy farm, even when you are a graduate of a prestigious private college. :)

At the same time, I somewhat agree with your drawing a sharp line between MA and CT. At an early age I was aware that my rural hometown was different from what I had seen in MA. As I put it when I was in elementary school,  there are a MASS of people in MASS. While in my early adulthood I got to know Boston, loving its &quot;old shoe&quot; feel with all those old buildings, I also developed some ambivalent feelings about the place. In two words: politics and Massholes. Not to mention being the worst drivers in the US. 

As both my siblings have in-laws in MA, and my sister lived for decades in MA, some familiarity with MA has been forced upon me. My brother&#039;s wife is from a small town in central MA- lot of similarity with my CT hometown.
And yes, Fairfield County is a NY suburb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: as a native of rural CT, I <b>very much</b> felt being a part of New England. The old houses in my hometown were very much like the old houses I saw in MA, VT, NH, RI, &amp; ME. </p>
<p>My hometown had a typical NE  combination  of old Yankees, the  more recent NE immigrant mix of Irish/Italian/Eastern Europe, and people from &#8220;away&#8221; whose jobs had taken them to NE. [But not from Noo Yawk City.] I went to school with a number of  people whose  famous CT ancestors grace our history books, including famous ancestors from that same home town. As Faulkner said, &#8220;The past is never dead. It&#8217;s not even past.&#8221;  The Yankees  were unpretentious sorts who  hardly ever talked about their famous ancestors and who never made  non-Yankees feel inferior for not having those famous ancestors. It&#8217;s hard to be pretentious when you shovel cow manure on your family&#8217;s dairy farm, even when you are a graduate of a prestigious private college. 🙂</p>
<p>At the same time, I somewhat agree with your drawing a sharp line between MA and CT. At an early age I was aware that my rural hometown was different from what I had seen in MA. As I put it when I was in elementary school,  there are a MASS of people in MASS. While in my early adulthood I got to know Boston, loving its &#8220;old shoe&#8221; feel with all those old buildings, I also developed some ambivalent feelings about the place. In two words: politics and Massholes. Not to mention being the worst drivers in the US. </p>
<p>As both my siblings have in-laws in MA, and my sister lived for decades in MA, some familiarity with MA has been forced upon me. My brother&#8217;s wife is from a small town in central MA- lot of similarity with my CT hometown.<br />
And yes, Fairfield County is a NY suburb.</p>
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		By: wendybar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 14:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I grew up in East Windsor Ct (north of Hartford and East of the Ct River) and there is also a line of the Ct River!!  The Eastern half of Ct is basically for the Boston teams, and the Western half is New York teams!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in East Windsor Ct (north of Hartford and East of the Ct River) and there is also a line of the Ct River!!  The Eastern half of Ct is basically for the Boston teams, and the Western half is New York teams!!</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 14:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait, there was a football game?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, there was a football game?</p>
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		By: Les		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/02/06/so-was-it-the-best-catch-ever/#comment-2172092</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Les]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t only David Tyree&#039;s catch, but the entire play itself.  It looked as if for sure Eli Manning was going to be sacked, but somehow he escaped and managed the throw.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;rct=j&#038;q=&#038;esrc=s&#038;source=web&#038;cd=16&#038;cad=rja&#038;uact=8&#038;ved=0ahUKEwj2tpe98PzRAhWj8oMKHb70DaYQtwIIYzAP&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCxiHMIM4NWI&#038;usg=AFQjCNHCHC5s2y9AT3awvi1BzO5mKsFimA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t only David Tyree&#8217;s catch, but the entire play itself.  It looked as if for sure Eli Manning was going to be sacked, but somehow he escaped and managed the throw.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;rct=j&#038;q=&#038;esrc=s&#038;source=web&#038;cd=16&#038;cad=rja&#038;uact=8&#038;ved=0ahUKEwj2tpe98PzRAhWj8oMKHb70DaYQtwIIYzAP&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCxiHMIM4NWI&#038;usg=AFQjCNHCHC5s2y9AT3awvi1BzO5mKsFimA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;rct=j&#038;q=&#038;esrc=s&#038;source=web&#038;cd=16&#038;cad=rja&#038;uact=8&#038;ved=0ahUKEwj2tpe98PzRAhWj8oMKHb70DaYQtwIIYzAP&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCxiHMIM4NWI&#038;usg=AFQjCNHCHC5s2y9AT3awvi1BzO5mKsFimA</a></p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to the catch I would but the David Tyree one for the Giants ahead of it and the Lynn Swann catch from long ago also and probably the Jermaine Kearse catch from a couple years ago that is largely forgotten because of the unfortunate events at the goal line a few moments later. I would say this one had a little of the luck element whereas the other three were pure concentration and skill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the catch I would but the David Tyree one for the Giants ahead of it and the Lynn Swann catch from long ago also and probably the Jermaine Kearse catch from a couple years ago that is largely forgotten because of the unfortunate events at the goal line a few moments later. I would say this one had a little of the luck element whereas the other three were pure concentration and skill.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The catch may have been a turning point, but I still think the greatest catch of all time in a Super Bowl was the one the Giants receiver made against New England about a decade ago that stopped New England from going undefeated.  In that instance, the catch is either made, or the Giants lose with a 99.99% probability- it was a fourth down play on the Giant&#039;s last drive, and if they don&#039;t make that first down, the game is over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The catch may have been a turning point, but I still think the greatest catch of all time in a Super Bowl was the one the Giants receiver made against New England about a decade ago that stopped New England from going undefeated.  In that instance, the catch is either made, or the Giants lose with a 99.99% probability- it was a fourth down play on the Giant&#8217;s last drive, and if they don&#8217;t make that first down, the game is over.</p>
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		By: AMartel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AMartel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, sorry.
RI is different from MA/NH/VT/ME New England.  It&#039;s more NY oriented if only because of it&#039;s history as a NY outpost (Newport).  Very small state but independent culturally. maybe due to it starting out as a refuge for religious tolerance.  Also, first to declare independent from England.  I really enjoyed my time there.  The Buddy Cianci years were exciting and weird!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, sorry.<br />
RI is different from MA/NH/VT/ME New England.  It&#8217;s more NY oriented if only because of it&#8217;s history as a NY outpost (Newport).  Very small state but independent culturally. maybe due to it starting out as a refuge for religious tolerance.  Also, first to declare independent from England.  I really enjoyed my time there.  The Buddy Cianci years were exciting and weird!</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know about the New England fan boundaries but I do know that Boston sports fans have become the most annoying fans in the country. First they moan and groan about never winning anything for ever (which wasn&#039;t even true because of Celtics) and were just insufferable. Then the Patriots, Red Sox and Bruins all when multiple championships and now they have become the most insufferable winners ever. Good God try attending a game where the Boston team is the visitor and put up with these people. 

OK, rant over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about the New England fan boundaries but I do know that Boston sports fans have become the most annoying fans in the country. First they moan and groan about never winning anything for ever (which wasn&#8217;t even true because of Celtics) and were just insufferable. Then the Patriots, Red Sox and Bruins all when multiple championships and now they have become the most insufferable winners ever. Good God try attending a game where the Boston team is the visitor and put up with these people. </p>
<p>OK, rant over.</p>
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