Comments on: The press and the president: fooling some of the people https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/ A blog about political change, among other things Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:30:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168851 Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:30:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168851 The public isn’t stupid; some may have been willing useful idiots for awhile, under the illusion of ending racial strife by electing a black president, but eventually the hypocrisy takes its toll.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/01/press-alert.php

]]> By: Big Maq https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168765 Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:00:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168765 It seems many have it backwards.

The msm bias exists largely because they have an audience for what they produce.

If the audience didn’t exist, doubtful they’d sell adverts and make any money.

Yes, they are losing share, but what is happening is, with a much larger variety of media sources, the audience is selecting their sources, be it mother jones or breitbart.

If the majority of people were to become nazi sympathizers, the media, in a free market, would see a domination of that type of bias.

Yes, doubtful there’d be a free media market in that scenario. Maybe today’s russia is a better comparison? If not, Argentina? venezuela?

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168736 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 23:01:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168736 VDL: Not bad!

But I’ll bet you’ve used that one before.

]]> By: Vanderleun https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168657 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:37:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168657 In realpolitick: “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”… and that should be enough for most purposes.

]]> By: Ray https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168640 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:27:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168640 “Because he is a Democrat, and the Times is a Democratic Party newspaper.”
Don’t these people know the difference between democrat and democratic? One is a noun and the other an adjective. I see this grammar mistake all the time. I’m giving them the benefit of a doubt and assuming a mistake and not dishonest.

]]> By: CV https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168628 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:21:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168628 Again, Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist has been doing outstanding analysis of press bias and the media meltdown over Trump.

Here, she comments on how the press immediately jumped on Bannon’s recent comment that the press should “shut up” (paraphrasing) while completely ignoring the rest of his remark: “and listen more.” Hemingway also links to a female, liberal (redundant, I know) NYC photographer who photographed and quoted several brave female Trump voters…great example of listening first, THEN reporting:

http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/27/trump-right-media-need-shut-listen/

]]> By: Lizzy https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168452 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 01:30:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168452 Thought the DNC and Podesta email leaks very clearly illustrated that the MSM is part of the DNC; the lines have been completely erased. Just ask Ben Rhodes!

Crowning themselves “fact-checkers” now isn’t going to erase this revelation. I don’t know how they recover the public’s trust, but what they’ve done in the past week is making things much, much worse.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168432 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 00:11:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168432 parker Says:
January 27th, 2017 at 3:21 pm
I think it is impossible for the msm to divorce the dnc. They are in a “until death do we part” relationship. Only a steep decline in revenue will make the msm change its partisanship.
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If it declines enough they might go out of business (Newsweek for a buck again?), which at least relieve of the burden of their partisanship masquerading as news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Newsweek_final_issue.jpg

]]> By: blert https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168424 Fri, 27 Jan 2017 23:39:27 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168424 Parker…

Not even that.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/27/the-press-and-the-president-fooling-some-of-the-people/#comment-2168416 Fri, 27 Jan 2017 23:27:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=66257#comment-2168416 It would be a far far better thing if the press covered all politicians well and covered them fairly. But at the moment, that’s merely a dream. –neo
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I think I linked this from Glenn Reynolds before, but he says exactly the same thing:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/01/26/white-house-press-media-donald-trump-glenn-reynolds-column/97042872/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-JsZXwiUTGBVRumNocL1wEw

“The killer counter-move for the press isn’t to double down on anti-Trump messaging. The counter-move is to bolster its own trustworthiness by acting (and being) more neutral and sober, and by being more trustworthy. If the news media actually focused on reporting facts accurately and straightforwardly, on leaving opinion to the pundits, and on giving Trump a clearly fair shake, then Trump’s tactics wouldn’t work, and any actual dirt they found on him would do actual damage. He’s betting on the press being insufficiently mature and self-controlled to manage that. So far, his bet is paying off.

That’s too bad. If we had a better press, we’d be much better off as a nation, and Trump’s strategy of capitalizing on the press’s flaws is good for Trump, but will probably make that problem worse, if such a thing is possible. But the truth is, we don’t have a better press. And as long as the press is mindlessly partisan and bereft of self-discipline, capitalizing on that is just good politics.”

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