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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/21/fred-astaire-and-and-and/#comment-2168130</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 04:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we can agree to agree that Ginger and all the other female dancers on these clips are fantastic, regardless of the dance genre or costume!
Thanks for the memories ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can agree to agree that Ginger and all the other female dancers on these clips are fantastic, regardless of the dance genre or costume!<br />
Thanks for the memories 😉</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 05:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aesop Fan:

I certainly agree that skirts don&#039;t work for tap dancing.  That&#039;s why Ginger isn&#039;t wearing them. But in half those clips of her that I recommended, she&#039;s wearing heels with the slacks, and she certainly looks (and dances) in a feminine rather than a masculine way. She&#039;s a very successful and feminine tap dancer, and in heels at times, too.

Not to mention &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcRwvVg68FM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;roller skates&lt;/a&gt; and a skirt.   

Long skirt and heels &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  She manages the skirt by flirtatiously picking it up a lot, so that it becomes part of the dance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesop Fan:</p>
<p>I certainly agree that skirts don&#8217;t work for tap dancing.  That&#8217;s why Ginger isn&#8217;t wearing them. But in half those clips of her that I recommended, she&#8217;s wearing heels with the slacks, and she certainly looks (and dances) in a feminine rather than a masculine way. She&#8217;s a very successful and feminine tap dancer, and in heels at times, too.</p>
<p>Not to mention <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcRwvVg68FM" rel="nofollow">roller skates</a> and a skirt.   </p>
<p>Long skirt and heels <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  She manages the skirt by flirtatiously picking it up a lot, so that it becomes part of the dance.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 04:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, this post (and the inauguration fashion show) is such a nice change from politics!
And I think Melania is prettier than Jackie.
(ducks and runs)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, this post (and the inauguration fashion show) is such a nice change from politics!<br />
And I think Melania is prettier than Jackie.<br />
(ducks and runs)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 04:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo-neocon Says: 
January 22nd, 2017 at 8:52 pm
AesopFan:

You may change your mind about tap and women if you look at Ginger Rogers in this clip (the dancing starts at 1:38) or this one (starting around minute 5). Or start this one at 3:25. Or this one starting at minute 1.
* * *
Well, looking at the alternative facts ;) you actually proved my point for me: &quot;girls in heels and skirts just look awkward&quot;.  
Ginger is wearing long pants in all of those clips.  Eleanor&#039;s awkward look is due to the gawky appearance of her bare legs, which don&#039;t have any &quot;flow&quot; like the slacks on men OR women.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo-neocon Says:<br />
January 22nd, 2017 at 8:52 pm<br />
AesopFan:</p>
<p>You may change your mind about tap and women if you look at Ginger Rogers in this clip (the dancing starts at 1:38) or this one (starting around minute 5). Or start this one at 3:25. Or this one starting at minute 1.<br />
* * *<br />
Well, looking at the alternative facts 😉 you actually proved my point for me: &#8220;girls in heels and skirts just look awkward&#8221;.<br />
Ginger is wearing long pants in all of those clips.  Eleanor&#8217;s awkward look is due to the gawky appearance of her bare legs, which don&#8217;t have any &#8220;flow&#8221; like the slacks on men OR women.</p>
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		By: Jan in MN		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/21/fred-astaire-and-and-and/#comment-2166937</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a tourist in Prague, I was so delighted to discover Dancing House, named by its architects, Vlado Milunic and Frank Gehry, &quot;The Fred and Ginger bujilding&quot;. 

I&#039;d had no idea there was such a building, and it&#039;s worth having a look:

https://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=651 

When I was younger I didn&#039;t see what was so special about Fred Astaire, but now I find I can&#039;t take my eyes off him when he dances. Or at all, actually, when he&#039;s on screen. And I agree–Ginger was his best partner.

Ginger&#039;s gown for Face the Music is perfect. I wonder who designed it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a tourist in Prague, I was so delighted to discover Dancing House, named by its architects, Vlado Milunic and Frank Gehry, &#8220;The Fred and Ginger bujilding&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d had no idea there was such a building, and it&#8217;s worth having a look:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=651" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=651</a> </p>
<p>When I was younger I didn&#8217;t see what was so special about Fred Astaire, but now I find I can&#8217;t take my eyes off him when he dances. Or at all, actually, when he&#8217;s on screen. And I agree–Ginger was his best partner.</p>
<p>Ginger&#8217;s gown for Face the Music is perfect. I wonder who designed it?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funky PhD:

Very well put, I think.

There really is something transcendent about it.  It becomes more than dancing.  Or maybe just all that dancing can be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funky PhD:</p>
<p>Very well put, I think.</p>
<p>There really is something transcendent about it.  It becomes more than dancing.  Or maybe just all that dancing can be.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: Thanks for finding &quot;And Then He Kissed Me&quot;!

betty:  from Draper&#039;s LA Times obit: &quot;Draper said he was a supporter of several organizations that had been called subversive by the U.S. attorney general&#039;s office&quot;. It is not clear to me to whom or what body that was said. He moved to Switzerland for three years thereafter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: Thanks for finding &#8220;And Then He Kissed Me&#8221;!</p>
<p>betty:  from Draper&#8217;s LA Times obit: &#8220;Draper said he was a supporter of several organizations that had been called subversive by the U.S. attorney general&#8217;s office&#8221;. It is not clear to me to whom or what body that was said. He moved to Switzerland for three years thereafter.</p>
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		By: FunkyPhD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, no one has ever demonstrated the expressive capabilities of the human body better than Fred Astaire. He was a genius on the order of Einstein, Shakespeare, and Beethoven.  I always thought Ginger matched him so well because of the similarity of their body types (she has the female version of the Fred body, and he has the male version of the Ginger body), and because they had that mysterious quality that goes by many names, the most common of which is chemistry. The poet Matthew Arnold said that deep down, the same heart beats in every human body; in some couples, though, the commingling of souls comes closer to the surface.  Thus it was for Ginger and Fred.  Anyone who doesn&#039;t believe in the reality of the soul, or doubts that art can lift us to a plane of existence higher than any dreamt of in our philosophy, let him watch Fred and Ginger dance to &quot;Night and Day&quot; or &quot;Cheek to Cheek.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, no one has ever demonstrated the expressive capabilities of the human body better than Fred Astaire. He was a genius on the order of Einstein, Shakespeare, and Beethoven.  I always thought Ginger matched him so well because of the similarity of their body types (she has the female version of the Fred body, and he has the male version of the Ginger body), and because they had that mysterious quality that goes by many names, the most common of which is chemistry. The poet Matthew Arnold said that deep down, the same heart beats in every human body; in some couples, though, the commingling of souls comes closer to the surface.  Thus it was for Ginger and Fred.  Anyone who doesn&#8217;t believe in the reality of the soul, or doubts that art can lift us to a plane of existence higher than any dreamt of in our philosophy, let him watch Fred and Ginger dance to &#8220;Night and Day&#8221; or &#8220;Cheek to Cheek.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love Fred... I think because it seems as if the dance is going on in him all the time - all he has to do is let it out. Someone mentioned that he wanted the singing and dancing to be seamless parts of the story. I think for me it goes beyond that: when I watch Fred Astaire&#039;s dancing, I am only minimally aware that dancing is not a normal activity in the middle of a conversation. It&#039;s the ultimate suspension of disbelief. And it&#039;s just a joy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Fred&#8230; I think because it seems as if the dance is going on in him all the time &#8211; all he has to do is let it out. Someone mentioned that he wanted the singing and dancing to be seamless parts of the story. I think for me it goes beyond that: when I watch Fred Astaire&#8217;s dancing, I am only minimally aware that dancing is not a normal activity in the middle of a conversation. It&#8217;s the ultimate suspension of disbelief. And it&#8217;s just a joy.</p>
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		By: betty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 01:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul Draper, followed closely by Gene Kelly, is my favorite tap dancer. Fred Astaire, with all his style and perfection of grace has always left me cold. I admire him without caring for him. reminding me of the famous nutshell re. Ginger &#038; Fred: &quot;Fred gave Ginger class.. she gave him sex appeal&quot; -Katharine Hepburn. Not that I ever found Ginger lacking in class, but I certainly found Fred lacking in virile sex appeal. Together they made a wonderful duo. &quot;There May Be Trouble Ahead&quot; is a wonderful song, music, lyrics &#038; arrangement, the costumes &#038; setting are spot-on. Draper&#039;s career was ruined by the blacklist, but he, for me, is top of the line. As was his relative, the superb &#038; unique Ruth Draper, talk about class!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Draper, followed closely by Gene Kelly, is my favorite tap dancer. Fred Astaire, with all his style and perfection of grace has always left me cold. I admire him without caring for him. reminding me of the famous nutshell re. Ginger &amp; Fred: &#8220;Fred gave Ginger class.. she gave him sex appeal&#8221; -Katharine Hepburn. Not that I ever found Ginger lacking in class, but I certainly found Fred lacking in virile sex appeal. Together they made a wonderful duo. &#8220;There May Be Trouble Ahead&#8221; is a wonderful song, music, lyrics &amp; arrangement, the costumes &amp; setting are spot-on. Draper&#8217;s career was ruined by the blacklist, but he, for me, is top of the line. As was his relative, the superb &amp; unique Ruth Draper, talk about class!</p>
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