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		By: Beverly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/16/trump-and-the-press-obama-and-the-press/#comment-2165208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Moving the WH press cons to the Old EOB is a brilliant move -- expanding the pool from the 49 seats in the WH press room simultaneously dilutes the power of the leftwing legacy media, and brings a lot of DIVERSE [worship word!] voices and outlets into the action. Including bloggers, Neo.

It also is real hard to argue against if you actually talk about what DT has in mind: if you do, you look like you&#039;re clinging to your Special Status and keeping all the other kids out of the room -- hardly a noble goal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moving the WH press cons to the Old EOB is a brilliant move &#8212; expanding the pool from the 49 seats in the WH press room simultaneously dilutes the power of the leftwing legacy media, and brings a lot of DIVERSE [worship word!] voices and outlets into the action. Including bloggers, Neo.</p>
<p>It also is real hard to argue against if you actually talk about what DT has in mind: if you do, you look like you&#8217;re clinging to your Special Status and keeping all the other kids out of the room &#8212; hardly a noble goal.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/16/trump-and-the-press-obama-and-the-press/#comment-2165204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 06:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An interesting insight from Joel Pollak (he has a new book out on the campaign):
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/01/16/media-covered-trump-without-listening-voters/

&quot;He did not ignore the media: on the contrary, he probably granted too many interviews for his own good, and carted journalists around on a dedicated press plane for months.

On the contrary: they ignored him.

When I joined the traveling press corps for the last few weeks of the campaign, I was surprised by how little interest there was among many of the journalists in covering what was actually going on at the rallies we were shlepping 20 hours per day to attend. Most were cordial, and professional; a few were exceptionally hard-working. But in general, the story of the 2016 election had long since ceased to be of any great interest to them....
The rules of the traveling press corps, repeated every few days for the benefit of new arrivals, was that whatever was said or done within the group was strictly off the record. That allowed journalists to preserve a necessary privacy. But it also meant that if some journalists decided together to frame a Trump speech in a particular way – something, arguably, the public had a right to know that they were doing – there was no way to report that.

Again – most of the journalists I met were professional, and friendly. But I was surprised at how few of them ventured beyond the “pen” and into the crowd, how much time was spent on Twitter at Trump rallies rather than listening to real, live, flesh-and-blood Trump supporters. ...
The night before the election, after a rally in New Hampshire, journalists both inside and outside the traveling press seemed less interested in the fact that Trump had made an explicit appeal to the “working class” than that he had presented a letter of support from New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, which the media spent the rest of the night speculating was a fake.

Many journalists apparently believed it was their civic duty to protect the public from Trump. Some worked for publications, like Buzzfeed and the Huffington Post, that had clear anti-Trump editorial policies or disclaimers. On occasion, mainstream media reports of events I attended bore no resemblance to what had actually happened – such as when NBC turned a happy speech in Las Vegas in Dec. 2015 into a kind of Nuremberg Nazi rally.

But even that was less problematic than the general lack of curiosity about what Trump was saying to voters and whether he was reaching them. Journalists – and their editors – were so busy talking, they forgot to listen. ...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting insight from Joel Pollak (he has a new book out on the campaign):<br />
<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/01/16/media-covered-trump-without-listening-voters/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/01/16/media-covered-trump-without-listening-voters/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;He did not ignore the media: on the contrary, he probably granted too many interviews for his own good, and carted journalists around on a dedicated press plane for months.</p>
<p>On the contrary: they ignored him.</p>
<p>When I joined the traveling press corps for the last few weeks of the campaign, I was surprised by how little interest there was among many of the journalists in covering what was actually going on at the rallies we were shlepping 20 hours per day to attend. Most were cordial, and professional; a few were exceptionally hard-working. But in general, the story of the 2016 election had long since ceased to be of any great interest to them&#8230;.<br />
The rules of the traveling press corps, repeated every few days for the benefit of new arrivals, was that whatever was said or done within the group was strictly off the record. That allowed journalists to preserve a necessary privacy. But it also meant that if some journalists decided together to frame a Trump speech in a particular way – something, arguably, the public had a right to know that they were doing – there was no way to report that.</p>
<p>Again – most of the journalists I met were professional, and friendly. But I was surprised at how few of them ventured beyond the “pen” and into the crowd, how much time was spent on Twitter at Trump rallies rather than listening to real, live, flesh-and-blood Trump supporters. &#8230;<br />
The night before the election, after a rally in New Hampshire, journalists both inside and outside the traveling press seemed less interested in the fact that Trump had made an explicit appeal to the “working class” than that he had presented a letter of support from New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, which the media spent the rest of the night speculating was a fake.</p>
<p>Many journalists apparently believed it was their civic duty to protect the public from Trump. Some worked for publications, like Buzzfeed and the Huffington Post, that had clear anti-Trump editorial policies or disclaimers. On occasion, mainstream media reports of events I attended bore no resemblance to what had actually happened – such as when NBC turned a happy speech in Las Vegas in Dec. 2015 into a kind of Nuremberg Nazi rally.</p>
<p>But even that was less problematic than the general lack of curiosity about what Trump was saying to voters and whether he was reaching them. Journalists – and their editors – were so busy talking, they forgot to listen. &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/16/trump-and-the-press-obama-and-the-press/#comment-2165201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frog Says: 
January 16th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
Get the press the H out of the People’s House altogether.
Standing outside the WH fence with the hoi polloi should be good enough for vox populi.
* * *
Indeed.
Our taxes pay the cost of the WH - including rooms used by the press.
Why should my money be spent on people who insist on insulting my values, and lying to me?
If religion should be taken out of government, so should the press.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frog Says:<br />
January 16th, 2017 at 8:58 pm<br />
Get the press the H out of the People’s House altogether.<br />
Standing outside the WH fence with the hoi polloi should be good enough for vox populi.<br />
* * *<br />
Indeed.<br />
Our taxes pay the cost of the WH &#8211; including rooms used by the press.<br />
Why should my money be spent on people who insist on insulting my values, and lying to me?<br />
If religion should be taken out of government, so should the press.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get the press the H out of the People&#039;s House altogether.
Standing outside the WH fence with the hoi polloi should be good enough for vox populi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get the press the H out of the People&#8217;s House altogether.<br />
Standing outside the WH fence with the hoi polloi should be good enough for vox populi.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To the WH press corps being in the West Wing gives them immediate access to the WH press secretary and his/her staff. They can just walkup the &quot;ramp&quot; (the term used by Mara Liasson on Fox this morning) and get instant access. My understanding is that the idea was to move the press briefing room to a larger venue (the present one only holds 49) so more reporters could be at the briefings.  The press corps can still have offices in the West Wing, which still provides instant access. IMO, this is much ado about not much. But then isn&#039;t most of the reportage about Trump pretty much the same. The main complaint seems to be that he doesn&#039;t play by the rules that we (The WH press corps) have established.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the WH press corps being in the West Wing gives them immediate access to the WH press secretary and his/her staff. They can just walkup the &#8220;ramp&#8221; (the term used by Mara Liasson on Fox this morning) and get instant access. My understanding is that the idea was to move the press briefing room to a larger venue (the present one only holds 49) so more reporters could be at the briefings.  The press corps can still have offices in the West Wing, which still provides instant access. IMO, this is much ado about not much. But then isn&#8217;t most of the reportage about Trump pretty much the same. The main complaint seems to be that he doesn&#8217;t play by the rules that we (The WH press corps) have established.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of this outrage about being kicked out of the White House is false outrage- the thing that really lit them up was suggestion that bloggers and other small new media writers get equal access to the press conferences.  It goes hand in hand with Trump&#039;s refusing to shut up on Twitter- the gatekeeper function that buttered the bread of the large television news organizations and the large national papers is being eroded- access to the press secretary and the president himself was the last bastion, and if Trump is smart, he will follow through on the threat of moving them all out of the White House to a center than can handle hundreds of people at a time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of this outrage about being kicked out of the White House is false outrage- the thing that really lit them up was suggestion that bloggers and other small new media writers get equal access to the press conferences.  It goes hand in hand with Trump&#8217;s refusing to shut up on Twitter- the gatekeeper function that buttered the bread of the large television news organizations and the large national papers is being eroded- access to the press secretary and the president himself was the last bastion, and if Trump is smart, he will follow through on the threat of moving them all out of the White House to a center than can handle hundreds of people at a time.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A &quot;free press&quot; that serves an agenda for which they are willing to continually obfuscate, oppress and even lie is a corrosive cancer in the body politic. If the patient is to survive, it must be eliminated root and branch. Go after the broadcasting licenses. Go after the corporate parents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;free press&#8221; that serves an agenda for which they are willing to continually obfuscate, oppress and even lie is a corrosive cancer in the body politic. If the patient is to survive, it must be eliminated root and branch. Go after the broadcasting licenses. Go after the corporate parents.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The msm is not going to receive any sympathy from millions out in flyover country. Their consternation is well deserved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The msm is not going to receive any sympathy from millions out in flyover country. Their consternation is well deserved.</p>
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		By: carl in atlanta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carl in atlanta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s shattered paradigm under which the media gets to set the rules for what is (and isn&#039;t) &quot;allowed&quot;. I find it most refreshing to watch  them pulling out their hair and howling. They have long since squandered any right to be respected.
 
  And yet again, Arnold said it best, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdzBaPDmJk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;many many years ago...&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s shattered paradigm under which the media gets to set the rules for what is (and isn&#8217;t) &#8220;allowed&#8221;. I find it most refreshing to watch  them pulling out their hair and howling. They have long since squandered any right to be respected.</p>
<p>  And yet again, Arnold said it best, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdzBaPDmJk" rel="nofollow">many many years ago&#8230;</a></p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n.n]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In order to seriously consider the prophecy of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, let them telecommute.  Think of Mother Gaia!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to seriously consider the prophecy of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, let them telecommute.  Think of Mother Gaia!</p>
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