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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/05/when-is-a-hate-crime-not-a-hate-crime/#comment-2162715</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[this is a form of making history
just as stalin killed his own kind
there are people who sell their own kind, and who would hurt their own under the idea that their target get blamed and they would have more power, which is why they are not an exception. 

its about power... and playing the rubes to act
if you tried to raise up an army and pay them youwould fail and be put in jail.. if you get idiots to sacrifice their lives, wages, and more... you get an army you can say its not my fault.. and cause the same end

THATS what its about and since race for communists is a social construct like everything, they mix... communist first color is not even there... so what you call an exception is blacks who want the end result, which is not what they paint it to be, but a place at the table of power. 

thats why the rubes are confused and act out]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a form of making history<br />
just as stalin killed his own kind<br />
there are people who sell their own kind, and who would hurt their own under the idea that their target get blamed and they would have more power, which is why they are not an exception. </p>
<p>its about power&#8230; and playing the rubes to act<br />
if you tried to raise up an army and pay them youwould fail and be put in jail.. if you get idiots to sacrifice their lives, wages, and more&#8230; you get an army you can say its not my fault.. and cause the same end</p>
<p>THATS what its about and since race for communists is a social construct like everything, they mix&#8230; communist first color is not even there&#8230; so what you call an exception is blacks who want the end result, which is not what they paint it to be, but a place at the table of power. </p>
<p>thats why the rubes are confused and act out</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[cicero, rome, exception proves the rule not disproves the rule... 

my point is that its not an exception, they also are around today... and there are whites who pretend to be black too... whatever benefits them

YOU want them to be an exception, but they arent
they are PART of it, in that they think that they will do better on that side than the other, and they do. 

booker T knew they were NOT exceptions!!!!!!!!

&lt;b&gt;“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
â€• Booker T. Washington&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cicero, rome, exception proves the rule not disproves the rule&#8230; </p>
<p>my point is that its not an exception, they also are around today&#8230; and there are whites who pretend to be black too&#8230; whatever benefits them</p>
<p>YOU want them to be an exception, but they arent<br />
they are PART of it, in that they think that they will do better on that side than the other, and they do. </p>
<p>booker T knew they were NOT exceptions!!!!!!!!</p>
<p><b>“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”<br />
â€• Booker T. Washington</b></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Montage, i can potentially guess that you havent lived in an underclass black neighborhood as i grew up in.. whats missing for you is the back story of the bored people listening to people in basements and such give lectures to gin up this political hate... 

its where i learned the ins and outs post bookstore backrooms with communist pamplets. 

if you go to the 6 train line in ny, and get out one stop past 96th stree... hang a right in the station, go up the stairs, and to the right coming out in a spanish area 

they pushed the blacks farther north by taking their cheaper jobs, which is why when i was a kid you saw black men with hats and good clothes kiss their wives, say goodbye and many would be doing short order cooking and all that, but now, they hire spanish illegals for it. (and give a phantom job to a wife that never shows up and pays from that keeping the remainder, while also getting SBA 8a and race based perks which whites males cant get but everyone else can)

there is a small bookstore... 
just read whats on the table outside
communist, black liberation, liberation theology, nationlaism (la raza), and more... 

yes la raza is basically spanish nazis:
&lt;b&gt;As Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlé¡n, we are a nationalist movement of Indigenous Gente that lay claim to the land that is ours by birthright. As a nationalist movement we seek to free our people from the exploitation of an oppressive society that occupies our land. Thus, the principle of nationalism serves to preserve the cultural traditions of La Familia de La Raza and promotes our identity as a Chicana/Chicano Gente. M.E.CH.A&lt;/b&gt;

just as the BLA was the black nazis!! (i can show similar but wihout openly claiming nationalism)

in queens, the tables are full of isis, islamic, and so on.. 
they usually are on steinway street just outside of the area near astoria and over by long island city.. the astoria area is lots of hooka places.. then at the other end are the madrasas and mosques and massids.. (i go to a massid in the warm months that is indonesian, nice people, not political, good food, the mosque by my house was implicated in 9/11)

so the more radical places are farming the poor for such people
then they gin them up, give them their tickets, and let them go out and sacrifice their time, effort, freedom, and more for the cause that ignores them once they get in trouble... (they are not leaders, they are what the cathchism of the revolutionary i put up says are to be used wisely... they say a similar section as to the women being anotehr stupid group to do things to, but i guess the feminists dont read what they are not told to read)

this has been going on since before WWII...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montage, i can potentially guess that you havent lived in an underclass black neighborhood as i grew up in.. whats missing for you is the back story of the bored people listening to people in basements and such give lectures to gin up this political hate&#8230; </p>
<p>its where i learned the ins and outs post bookstore backrooms with communist pamplets. </p>
<p>if you go to the 6 train line in ny, and get out one stop past 96th stree&#8230; hang a right in the station, go up the stairs, and to the right coming out in a spanish area </p>
<p>they pushed the blacks farther north by taking their cheaper jobs, which is why when i was a kid you saw black men with hats and good clothes kiss their wives, say goodbye and many would be doing short order cooking and all that, but now, they hire spanish illegals for it. (and give a phantom job to a wife that never shows up and pays from that keeping the remainder, while also getting SBA 8a and race based perks which whites males cant get but everyone else can)</p>
<p>there is a small bookstore&#8230;<br />
just read whats on the table outside<br />
communist, black liberation, liberation theology, nationlaism (la raza), and more&#8230; </p>
<p>yes la raza is basically spanish nazis:<br />
<b>As Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlé¡n, we are a nationalist movement of Indigenous Gente that lay claim to the land that is ours by birthright. As a nationalist movement we seek to free our people from the exploitation of an oppressive society that occupies our land. Thus, the principle of nationalism serves to preserve the cultural traditions of La Familia de La Raza and promotes our identity as a Chicana/Chicano Gente. M.E.CH.A</b></p>
<p>just as the BLA was the black nazis!! (i can show similar but wihout openly claiming nationalism)</p>
<p>in queens, the tables are full of isis, islamic, and so on..<br />
they usually are on steinway street just outside of the area near astoria and over by long island city.. the astoria area is lots of hooka places.. then at the other end are the madrasas and mosques and massids.. (i go to a massid in the warm months that is indonesian, nice people, not political, good food, the mosque by my house was implicated in 9/11)</p>
<p>so the more radical places are farming the poor for such people<br />
then they gin them up, give them their tickets, and let them go out and sacrifice their time, effort, freedom, and more for the cause that ignores them once they get in trouble&#8230; (they are not leaders, they are what the cathchism of the revolutionary i put up says are to be used wisely&#8230; they say a similar section as to the women being anotehr stupid group to do things to, but i guess the feminists dont read what they are not told to read)</p>
<p>this has been going on since before WWII&#8230;</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art seems to have forgotten that the exception does not make the rule.  Gild that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art seems to have forgotten that the exception does not make the rule.  Gild that.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the incident would have, of course, conjured America’s ugly history of white mobs committing violence against black people

funny thing about the real hsitory is that blacks were part of those white mobs too... 

just as natty was a black slavholder too

we seem to have sanitized it that it was group against group not color againt color as race is culture not color, as confirmed by trotsky, inventor of the term, and Obama who said the same recently... 

its the rubes that dont know
you know, you and me, and the average folk
unless they study what is not taught to rubes...
its how it is and i cant put gold leaf on a turd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the incident would have, of course, conjured America’s ugly history of white mobs committing violence against black people</p>
<p>funny thing about the real hsitory is that blacks were part of those white mobs too&#8230; </p>
<p>just as natty was a black slavholder too</p>
<p>we seem to have sanitized it that it was group against group not color againt color as race is culture not color, as confirmed by trotsky, inventor of the term, and Obama who said the same recently&#8230; </p>
<p>its the rubes that dont know<br />
you know, you and me, and the average folk<br />
unless they study what is not taught to rubes&#8230;<br />
its how it is and i cant put gold leaf on a turd</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 15:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[artfldgr is correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artfldgr is correct.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 13:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Suppose we had a category for &quot;They just like to do this stuff.&quot;
Would that indicate more or less moral awfulness?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose we had a category for &#8220;They just like to do this stuff.&#8221;<br />
Would that indicate more or less moral awfulness?</p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The news this morning explained that is a hate crime because he is disabled not because he is white
Disabled = protected class
White male = unprotected class

For the record
White woman = prote protected class]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The news this morning explained that is a hate crime because he is disabled not because he is white<br />
Disabled = protected class<br />
White male = unprotected class</p>
<p>For the record<br />
White woman = prote protected class</p>
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		By: CapnRusty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 06:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a Virginia lawyer, though not actively practicing. Virginia still has the death penalty, and the standard to be met for imposing it is set out below. If the four black adults had killed their victim -- in Virginia -- they&#039;d wind up sitting in old smokey.

§ 19.2-264.2. Conditions for imposition of death sentence. – In assessing the penalty of any person convicted of an offense for which the death penalty may be imposed, a sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the court or jury shall (1) after consideration of the past criminal record of convictions of the defendant, find that there is a probability that the defendant would commit criminal acts of violence that would constitute a continuing serious threat to society &lt;i&gt;or that his conduct in committing the offense for which he stands charged was outrageously or wantonly vile, horrible or inhuman in that it involved torture, depravity of mind or an aggravated battery to the victim&lt;/i&gt;; and (2) recommend that the penalty of death be imposed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Virginia lawyer, though not actively practicing. Virginia still has the death penalty, and the standard to be met for imposing it is set out below. If the four black adults had killed their victim &#8212; in Virginia &#8212; they&#8217;d wind up sitting in old smokey.</p>
<p>§ 19.2-264.2. Conditions for imposition of death sentence. – In assessing the penalty of any person convicted of an offense for which the death penalty may be imposed, a sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the court or jury shall (1) after consideration of the past criminal record of convictions of the defendant, find that there is a probability that the defendant would commit criminal acts of violence that would constitute a continuing serious threat to society <i>or that his conduct in committing the offense for which he stands charged was outrageously or wantonly vile, horrible or inhuman in that it involved torture, depravity of mind or an aggravated battery to the victim</i>; and (2) recommend that the penalty of death be imposed.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 04:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Montage:
I dislike (and perhaps despise) sloppy loose slipshod thought pretending to be rational and cohesive. Your 9:28pm response is the former.
&quot;Not all blacks commit crimes like these&quot; deserves nothing more than  a &quot;Duh&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montage:<br />
I dislike (and perhaps despise) sloppy loose slipshod thought pretending to be rational and cohesive. Your 9:28pm response is the former.<br />
&#8220;Not all blacks commit crimes like these&#8221; deserves nothing more than  a &#8220;Duh&#8221;.</p>
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