Comments on: The party and the parties https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/ A blog about political change, among other things Thu, 05 Jan 2017 15:02:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: OM https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2160902 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 15:02:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2160902 CBI:

Useful and insightful You seem to be treating people as individuals and attempt to converse and communicate with. Or is the point just to argue and cause conflict?

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2160527 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 11:05:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2160527 CBI. It would defuse the situation. As is often said, blessed are the peacemakers. It might mollify those who believe as you do and keep them from speaking up and causing a fuss by contradicting the Self Proclaimed Exceptionally Wonderful (SPEW).
But this discussion has moved from how to be politely submissive to the Idiot Left to how to at least cause some doubt in what passes for their thinking.

]]> By: CBI https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2160057 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 06:10:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2160057 I’m late to the discussion, but I think Neo is correct in noting that venues (or situations) make a difference in how a person can respond.

That said, based upon my own experiences, I have found this technique to be valuable in situations such as she faced:

1. Make a clear and countering—but very civil–claim. E.g., “I think that Trump’s crude language is not as bad as Clinton’s criminality.”

2. Place it into the *context of the situation*: “But we both know that good people can differ about such things.”

3. Then—and very importantly—offer a way out. “Let’s talk about something else and avoid arguments and disagreements”

In every face-to-face discussion where I’ve applied it to date, I’ve found that this combination (I disagree–that’s OK–let’s not fight) has both defused the matter and led to a topic change. In addition, should the initial speaker respond rudely, it is he who is being rude and ruining things. Most people are willing to avoid disagreements to keep things running smoothly—and most onlookers will show displeasure at the one who escalates a disagreement.

Note that this does not necessarily work online: friends of friends occasionally go hermatile. I have several friends of long term who are rather far left, but are OK with disagreements. they’ve even apologized when one of their other FaceBook friends got rude.

YMMV, of course, but I think that it is well worth the risk to increase the sphere of “we disagree on politics, but so what” as well as the “not all non-leftists are evil, hidden, ‘mysterious other’ people.”

]]> By: OM https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159932 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 05:05:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159932 The Real Housewives of ISIS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOB6UDC-67w

How insensitive! I’m outraged! 🙂

]]> By: OM https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159894 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 04:50:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159894 http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Pointless/AnimalGroups.html

]]> By: T https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159840 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 04:22:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159840 “I approached a huddle of nice liberals . . . .” [MHollywood @ 7:07]

A gaggle of geese, a pod of whales, a huddle of liberals — that is a keeper!

]]> By: OM https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159832 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 04:16:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159832 MHollywood:

The NATO exercise was in June 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/07/u-s-nato-countries-begin-largest-military-exercise-in-europe-since-cold-war/?utm_term=.1f289f5110bb

I saw some photos recently and some video of armored vehicles on the firing ranges but I haven’t been able to track it down. Poland in the summertime…..

]]> By: MHollywood https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159790 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 03:49:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159790 i take it all back. I vow not to comment on anything anywhere ever again.

]]> By: MHollywood https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159627 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 02:09:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159627 OM it’s on YouTube – and 504 people in the world have watched it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dnRgFJWtE4

]]> By: Deep Cover https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/03/the-party-and-the-parties/#comment-2159600 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 01:51:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=65633#comment-2159600 I meant to say “serious Hillary country”.

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