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		By: Jim Doherty		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/02/obama-and-trump-by-their-books/#comment-2156790</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Dont take away his twitter, just force him to give the device to someone else, and make it policy that there is at least a 12 hour gap from the time he writes it, to the time its sent. 

The other thing he fails to do, and I am speaking as someone who has never tweeted, he fails to retweet crap that is over the top.

He gets alot of ugly nasty thrown his way by lefties. He should just pass along and retweet some the worst of it. Make the left and democrats/msm own it. They created these delusional hitler hunters, let them be the ones to correct it.

Would crack me up to see them have to cover some ugly leftist trolls, merely cause the POTUS, retweeted it.

I still smile about the flag burning tweet. I saw the troll aspect right away, I had to spit something into the trashcan cause it came back up when I sstarted laughing, really.

Could they resist pouncing? Nope. And they showed everyone that they are for free speech, but only if it agrees with their side, otherwise shouting down and safe spaces are employed. It was classic, and brilliant. 

Do I love Trump? nope. I did vote for him. IF he does nothing but scrap ocare, and burn down a large part of DC, I will be happy. 

He could easily put Virginia back to a red state by just cutting the govt workforce through attrition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont take away his twitter, just force him to give the device to someone else, and make it policy that there is at least a 12 hour gap from the time he writes it, to the time its sent. </p>
<p>The other thing he fails to do, and I am speaking as someone who has never tweeted, he fails to retweet crap that is over the top.</p>
<p>He gets alot of ugly nasty thrown his way by lefties. He should just pass along and retweet some the worst of it. Make the left and democrats/msm own it. They created these delusional hitler hunters, let them be the ones to correct it.</p>
<p>Would crack me up to see them have to cover some ugly leftist trolls, merely cause the POTUS, retweeted it.</p>
<p>I still smile about the flag burning tweet. I saw the troll aspect right away, I had to spit something into the trashcan cause it came back up when I sstarted laughing, really.</p>
<p>Could they resist pouncing? Nope. And they showed everyone that they are for free speech, but only if it agrees with their side, otherwise shouting down and safe spaces are employed. It was classic, and brilliant. </p>
<p>Do I love Trump? nope. I did vote for him. IF he does nothing but scrap ocare, and burn down a large part of DC, I will be happy. </p>
<p>He could easily put Virginia back to a red state by just cutting the govt workforce through attrition.</p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Now he will be POTUS. So I will cut him a year’s worth of slack.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - parker

Waaaaaay too much slack, IMHO.

trump campaigned on nearly everything and really nothing (mutable) - bet most have “forgotten” his promise to release his tax returns after being elected, as one example of probably a string of broken promises to come.
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He thrives on media attention and to maintain that he must remain an enigma.

Problem is, an enigma as POTUS creates its own problems, with unpredictable outcomes.  

A moral man of principle might be able to navigate that, but that doesn&#039;t seem to be the man we have (at least, that is something he has yet to prove).

The cheers and &quot;hope&quot; will quickly end if (when?) we have a major trade battle (and its economic consequences), and/or we see a rogue nation take a step too far that even trump cannot ignore (and clumsily responds to).
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trump has to get this sh*t right from day one, and operate with some discipline.  

His first 90 days MAY set the tone and direction (notwithstanding what we will have already seen between Nov 8 and inaugural day), but who knows?

That&#039;s about as much &quot;slack&quot; as I&#039;d recommend giving him, considering he seems to be the biggest &quot;RINO&quot; (in the original sense that Neo wrote about) in several generations, and has had more than plenty of time to give us a sense of what he would really do.
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Until then, it is not worth much commentary, as it is all speculative, likely on yet another shiny object that trump would have the media (and the rest of us) chase down to fill time and attention with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Now he will be POTUS. So I will cut him a year’s worth of slack.&#8221;</em> &#8211; parker</p>
<p>Waaaaaay too much slack, IMHO.</p>
<p>trump campaigned on nearly everything and really nothing (mutable) &#8211; bet most have “forgotten” his promise to release his tax returns after being elected, as one example of probably a string of broken promises to come.<br />
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<p>He thrives on media attention and to maintain that he must remain an enigma.</p>
<p>Problem is, an enigma as POTUS creates its own problems, with unpredictable outcomes.  </p>
<p>A moral man of principle might be able to navigate that, but that doesn&#8217;t seem to be the man we have (at least, that is something he has yet to prove).</p>
<p>The cheers and &#8220;hope&#8221; will quickly end if (when?) we have a major trade battle (and its economic consequences), and/or we see a rogue nation take a step too far that even trump cannot ignore (and clumsily responds to).<br />
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<p>trump has to get this sh*t right from day one, and operate with some discipline.  </p>
<p>His first 90 days MAY set the tone and direction (notwithstanding what we will have already seen between Nov 8 and inaugural day), but who knows?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about as much &#8220;slack&#8221; as I&#8217;d recommend giving him, considering he seems to be the biggest &#8220;RINO&#8221; (in the original sense that Neo wrote about) in several generations, and has had more than plenty of time to give us a sense of what he would really do.<br />
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<p>Until then, it is not worth much commentary, as it is all speculative, likely on yet another shiny object that trump would have the media (and the rest of us) chase down to fill time and attention with.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2017/01/02/obama-and-trump-by-their-books/#comment-2156591</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And another: the press will attempt to give President Trump a very, very, very hard time.&quot;

Very true. They&#039;ve already been going for him, snapping at his heels at every opportunity.

The headlines and the stories are laden with negative spin and innuendo.

It&#039;s a deluge of vicious reportage---no doubt because they love America?---and it should be contrasted with the headlines and stories about both Obama and Clinton.

In fact, what the media doing is full-frontal incitement.

(Obama, too, has this attitude. Naturally so.)

And they&#039;re preaching to a crowd that includes some very excitable people.

To the point where anything, unfortunately, is possible in the fury that has been whipped up.

If I were Trump, I would watch my back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And another: the press will attempt to give President Trump a very, very, very hard time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very true. They&#8217;ve already been going for him, snapping at his heels at every opportunity.</p>
<p>The headlines and the stories are laden with negative spin and innuendo.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a deluge of vicious reportage&#8212;no doubt because they love America?&#8212;and it should be contrasted with the headlines and stories about both Obama and Clinton.</p>
<p>In fact, what the media doing is full-frontal incitement.</p>
<p>(Obama, too, has this attitude. Naturally so.)</p>
<p>And they&#8217;re preaching to a crowd that includes some very excitable people.</p>
<p>To the point where anything, unfortunately, is possible in the fury that has been whipped up.</p>
<p>If I were Trump, I would watch my back.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 05:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim Miller:

&quot;RINO&quot; usually is short for &quot;a Republican the speaker doesn&#039;t like.&quot;  It used to have more meaning than that, but now it&#039;s come down to that.

I wrote about the evolution of the word &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/10/15/the-evolution-of-the-term-rino/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Miller:</p>
<p>&#8220;RINO&#8221; usually is short for &#8220;a Republican the speaker doesn&#8217;t like.&#8221;  It used to have more meaning than that, but now it&#8217;s come down to that.</p>
<p>I wrote about the evolution of the word <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/10/15/the-evolution-of-the-term-rino/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 04:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let us not forget who the enemy is. Let us not turn on the Anti-Left before it is time. Think of national politics as equivalent to a season of MLB, with a lot of games to be played to reach the World Series.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not forget who the enemy is. Let us not turn on the Anti-Left before it is time. Think of national politics as equivalent to a season of MLB, with a lot of games to be played to reach the World Series.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 04:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not expecting djt to be anything other than djt. I am willing to see if I can trust him for an inch, then a foot, and then a yard. Bets are off when it comes to a mile. Patience. Wait and see. The good news is hrc will never be POTUS, the unknown unknown is exactly what djt will do.

I supported Cruz with my own time and money in Iowa, and we won.  Yet, that turned out to be a flash in the pan. I have questioned djt&#039;s &#039;vision&#039; all the way until he won 270. Now he will be POTUS. So I will cut him a year&#039;s worth of slack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not expecting djt to be anything other than djt. I am willing to see if I can trust him for an inch, then a foot, and then a yard. Bets are off when it comes to a mile. Patience. Wait and see. The good news is hrc will never be POTUS, the unknown unknown is exactly what djt will do.</p>
<p>I supported Cruz with my own time and money in Iowa, and we won.  Yet, that turned out to be a flash in the pan. I have questioned djt&#8217;s &#8216;vision&#8217; all the way until he won 270. Now he will be POTUS. So I will cut him a year&#8217;s worth of slack.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parker:

As Neo has said &quot;We will have to wait and see.&quot;    You are keeping your eyes open and have been aware of Trump&#039;s characteristics. some others, not so much it seems already.

I hope he turns out better than I expect.  Time will tell, it always does,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker:</p>
<p>As Neo has said &#8220;We will have to wait and see.&#8221;    You are keeping your eyes open and have been aware of Trump&#8217;s characteristics. some others, not so much it seems already.</p>
<p>I hope he turns out better than I expect.  Time will tell, it always does,</p>
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		By: Jim Miller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 03:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker - You might find some reason for hope in the weird argument I made in December, explaining why I thought Trump might impersonate a conservative Republican.

I linked to it today, along with my February argument that Trump can be thought of as a Bill Clinton Democrat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker &#8211; You might find some reason for hope in the weird argument I made in December, explaining why I thought Trump might impersonate a conservative Republican.</p>
<p>I linked to it today, along with my February argument that Trump can be thought of as a Bill Clinton Democrat.</p>
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		By: Jim Miller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny how differently people use the same word.  For me, the two biggest RINOs in recent decades are Ron Paul and, of  course, the loudest of them all, Donald Trump.  Both attempted what you might call hostile takeovers of the Republican Party.

Ron Paul&#039;s attempt failed, though he did significant damage to the Republican Party, and I think it likely that Trump&#039;s will, too.

I have often wished that those who use the word, which I almost never do, would give us an operational definition of the word.

(I haven&#039;t bothered to make an operationalal definition of &quot;RINO&quot;, but I don&#039;t think it would be hard to do.  You could, for example, begin by looking at which party received most of their contributions, whether they had opposed or supported Ronald Reagan, whether they thought George W. Bush should be impeached, and so on.

For members of Congress, you could just look up how loyal to the party they are in floor votes.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how differently people use the same word.  For me, the two biggest RINOs in recent decades are Ron Paul and, of  course, the loudest of them all, Donald Trump.  Both attempted what you might call hostile takeovers of the Republican Party.</p>
<p>Ron Paul&#8217;s attempt failed, though he did significant damage to the Republican Party, and I think it likely that Trump&#8217;s will, too.</p>
<p>I have often wished that those who use the word, which I almost never do, would give us an operational definition of the word.</p>
<p>(I haven&#8217;t bothered to make an operationalal definition of &#8220;RINO&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think it would be hard to do.  You could, for example, begin by looking at which party received most of their contributions, whether they had opposed or supported Ronald Reagan, whether they thought George W. Bush should be impeached, and so on.</p>
<p>For members of Congress, you could just look up how loyal to the party they are in floor votes.)</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 01:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OM,

As you well know, I am not a big djt fan. I find his bombast and outlandishness off putting.  However, I do not think he is ignorant.  I have been encouraged and surprised by many of his cabinet picks.and I enjoy how he drives the msm up the wall. So I will wait and see what he does in 2017.

I advise you do the same.  Ankle biting ain&#039;t the way brother.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM,</p>
<p>As you well know, I am not a big djt fan. I find his bombast and outlandishness off putting.  However, I do not think he is ignorant.  I have been encouraged and surprised by many of his cabinet picks.and I enjoy how he drives the msm up the wall. So I will wait and see what he does in 2017.</p>
<p>I advise you do the same.  Ankle biting ain&#8217;t the way brother.</p>
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