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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1993740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2016 01:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Deal?

Sincerely,
M J R&lt;/b&gt;

A loser&#039;s deal, since it wouldn&#039;t include computer hack/cracks or immigrant votes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Deal?</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
M J R</b></p>
<p>A loser&#8217;s deal, since it wouldn&#8217;t include computer hack/cracks or immigrant votes.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1974634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I note that a very important reason to keep the electoral college has not been mentioned:
To ensure that vote fraud does NOT cross state lines. I shudder to think of how many fraudulent votes would be cast in urban areas if every vote was tallied at the national level (I won&#039;t name the party involved).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that a very important reason to keep the electoral college has not been mentioned:<br />
To ensure that vote fraud does NOT cross state lines. I shudder to think of how many fraudulent votes would be cast in urban areas if every vote was tallied at the national level (I won&#8217;t name the party involved).</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel in Brookline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2016 01:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right.  I think there are several things going on here --

- grief and disbelief at the election&#039;s outcome;

- fury at the thought that some &lt;i&gt;Democrat&lt;/i&gt; electors might defect -- and a futile attempt to contain the damage by suggesting/demanding that the Other Side do the same (rosta ruck)...

- wishful thinking for the sweet sake of wishful thinking.


This can be considered in the same category as the attempts to force a vote recount (but only in the areas that might help Hillary, natch).  It&#039;s desperation, and unless Trump is truly asleep at the switch, it won&#039;t work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  I think there are several things going on here &#8212;</p>
<p>&#8211; grief and disbelief at the election&#8217;s outcome;</p>
<p>&#8211; fury at the thought that some <i>Democrat</i> electors might defect &#8212; and a futile attempt to contain the damage by suggesting/demanding that the Other Side do the same (rosta ruck)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211; wishful thinking for the sweet sake of wishful thinking.</p>
<p>This can be considered in the same category as the attempts to force a vote recount (but only in the areas that might help Hillary, natch).  It&#8217;s desperation, and unless Trump is truly asleep at the switch, it won&#8217;t work.</p>
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		By: bdh		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1971826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bdh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are witnessing the bargaining stage of grief. I&#039;m awaiting their depression stage...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are witnessing the bargaining stage of grief. I&#8217;m awaiting their depression stage&#8230;</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1971423</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 08:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I predict there will be zero Trump electoral defections, and probably less than 4 defectors from Clinton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I predict there will be zero Trump electoral defections, and probably less than 4 defectors from Clinton.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1971417</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 08:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornflour,

I don&#039;t think the Democrats&#039; edge really comes from having California, New York, and Illinois locked up, and it really doesn&#039;t even come from adding NJ, CT, MA, DE, DC, VT, MD, WA, HI, and OR to that list.  It came from having MI, PA, and in the last three elections, NV, VA and CO.

I guess what I am saying is that the parties have largely battled each other in the exact same states over and over, with every Republican making stab at PA and MI, but only Trump was able to break through- which is what had to happen, or the Republican Party was/is going to be locked out of the White House.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornflour,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the Democrats&#8217; edge really comes from having California, New York, and Illinois locked up, and it really doesn&#8217;t even come from adding NJ, CT, MA, DE, DC, VT, MD, WA, HI, and OR to that list.  It came from having MI, PA, and in the last three elections, NV, VA and CO.</p>
<p>I guess what I am saying is that the parties have largely battled each other in the exact same states over and over, with every Republican making stab at PA and MI, but only Trump was able to break through- which is what had to happen, or the Republican Party was/is going to be locked out of the White House.</p>
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		By: Cornflour		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1970832</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornflour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 05:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before going out on this limb, I should probably consult Michael Barone&#039;s books, but here goes.

Despite the intent of the electoral college system, for many years, Democrats have so dominated New York, California, Illinois, and a few other high-population states, that they start every election by putting Republicans in a deep hole.

Democrats are free to build a strategy to achieve 270 electoral votes, without committing any time or resources to their sure-thing states.  Usually they can pour everything into winning the rust belt and a few other states, and the election is over.

On the other hand, Republican sure-things are limited to a small number of thinly populated states in the Great Plains.  To win, they need to spread campaign time and resources all over the country -- excepting New York, California, and Illinois.  This is obviously a more difficult strategy.

I wrote this off the top of my head, without consulting any data or maps.  Still, I think the general idea is right.  In saying so, I&#039;m not denying that the purpose of the electoral college is still in force, but I would argue that the modern electoral map has given Democrats a running start, and they have little reason to complain about the electoral college.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before going out on this limb, I should probably consult Michael Barone&#8217;s books, but here goes.</p>
<p>Despite the intent of the electoral college system, for many years, Democrats have so dominated New York, California, Illinois, and a few other high-population states, that they start every election by putting Republicans in a deep hole.</p>
<p>Democrats are free to build a strategy to achieve 270 electoral votes, without committing any time or resources to their sure-thing states.  Usually they can pour everything into winning the rust belt and a few other states, and the election is over.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Republican sure-things are limited to a small number of thinly populated states in the Great Plains.  To win, they need to spread campaign time and resources all over the country &#8212; excepting New York, California, and Illinois.  This is obviously a more difficult strategy.</p>
<p>I wrote this off the top of my head, without consulting any data or maps.  Still, I think the general idea is right.  In saying so, I&#8217;m not denying that the purpose of the electoral college is still in force, but I would argue that the modern electoral map has given Democrats a running start, and they have little reason to complain about the electoral college.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1969787</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 01:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, lefties, let&#039;s make a deal:

- we agree to do away with the Electoral College and go to a national popular vote for President of USA

* when and only when *

- you-all agree to cooperate in *fully* (and regularly) cleansing the voter rolls of *all* cemetery residents and illegal voters.

Deal?

Sincerely,
M J R]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, lefties, let&#8217;s make a deal:</p>
<p>&#8211; we agree to do away with the Electoral College and go to a national popular vote for President of USA</p>
<p>* when and only when *</p>
<p>&#8211; you-all agree to cooperate in *fully* (and regularly) cleansing the voter rolls of *all* cemetery residents and illegal voters.</p>
<p>Deal?</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
M J R</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1969540</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The wailing of their women is music to my ears.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wailing of their women is music to my ears.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/25/the-obligatory-the-electors-should-vote-for-hillary-articles/#comment-1969044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2016 22:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The day that &quot;faithless electors&quot; unilaterally decide the election of the President is the day they end the republic and make America a pure democracy. 

Which is the point of these articles, to build momentum in a movement to make the election of the President a direct vote, i.e. a popularity contest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day that &#8220;faithless electors&#8221; unilaterally decide the election of the President is the day they end the republic and make America a pure democracy. </p>
<p>Which is the point of these articles, to build momentum in a movement to make the election of the President a direct vote, i.e. a popularity contest.</p>
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