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		By: Christopher B		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/23/just-a-bit-more-about-those-polls/#comment-1966956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2016 15:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My own favorite factoid 

If Hillary had convinced the right 200K people to vote her way (22K in MI, 56K in WI, and 116K in PA) we&#039;d be talking about her winning those states by Trump&#039;s margin.

Of course the Dems would still be crowing about their meaningless margins in CA and NY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own favorite factoid </p>
<p>If Hillary had convinced the right 200K people to vote her way (22K in MI, 56K in WI, and 116K in PA) we&#8217;d be talking about her winning those states by Trump&#8217;s margin.</p>
<p>Of course the Dems would still be crowing about their meaningless margins in CA and NY.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/23/just-a-bit-more-about-those-polls/#comment-1962966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Many of the absentee ballots are military, and from what I’ve read, went for Trump about 8:1.

Of course, in Dem states, they count the votes, don’t they?

&lt;/b&gt;

They count to make sure to discard the military absentee votes or convert them to Democrat. This time they might not bother, since it isn&#039;t worth it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Many of the absentee ballots are military, and from what I’ve read, went for Trump about 8:1.</p>
<p>Of course, in Dem states, they count the votes, don’t they?</p>
<p></b></p>
<p>They count to make sure to discard the military absentee votes or convert them to Democrat. This time they might not bother, since it isn&#8217;t worth it.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have my doubts about  Hillary&#039;s lead in the popular vote opening up with the counting of absentee ballots.  Many of the absentee ballots are military, and from what I&#039;ve read, went for Trump about 8:1. 

Of course, in Dem states, they count the votes, don&#039;t they?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my doubts about  Hillary&#8217;s lead in the popular vote opening up with the counting of absentee ballots.  Many of the absentee ballots are military, and from what I&#8217;ve read, went for Trump about 8:1. </p>
<p>Of course, in Dem states, they count the votes, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/23/just-a-bit-more-about-those-polls/#comment-1960343</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If they used more of their strategic reserve, they could get 15 million, via cracks/hacks/bribes, but their grassroot organizations are limited to certain states and cities. Their buses can&#039;t reach all of the land. The strategy Trum won by can be described as &quot;if it isn&#039;t close, they can&#039;t win via cheating&quot;.

So many Democrats overturned their own votes for Trum, that it would have taken a strategic adjustment on the part of OFA and other orgs that focused on cities. Because obviously, if a state&#039;s electoral vote goes entirely for whomever wins the most precincts or popular vote in a state, then by controlling a few key cities in that state, one can obtain all the electoral votes. But that was only for states that didn&#039;t reliably vote Democrat. This time, they needed to cover the entire board in Go, not just a few key places. Since HRC was distracted by smashing Sanders, and many of the get out the vote volunteers were Sander loyalists, that most likely threw a wench into the Left&#039;s efforts. Nothing like the effort they put for Hussein, their Messiah King.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they used more of their strategic reserve, they could get 15 million, via cracks/hacks/bribes, but their grassroot organizations are limited to certain states and cities. Their buses can&#8217;t reach all of the land. The strategy Trum won by can be described as &#8220;if it isn&#8217;t close, they can&#8217;t win via cheating&#8221;.</p>
<p>So many Democrats overturned their own votes for Trum, that it would have taken a strategic adjustment on the part of OFA and other orgs that focused on cities. Because obviously, if a state&#8217;s electoral vote goes entirely for whomever wins the most precincts or popular vote in a state, then by controlling a few key cities in that state, one can obtain all the electoral votes. But that was only for states that didn&#8217;t reliably vote Democrat. This time, they needed to cover the entire board in Go, not just a few key places. Since HRC was distracted by smashing Sanders, and many of the get out the vote volunteers were Sander loyalists, that most likely threw a wench into the Left&#8217;s efforts. Nothing like the effort they put for Hussein, their Messiah King.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/23/just-a-bit-more-about-those-polls/#comment-1960331</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[3 million fake votes by Democrats. Just enough. Not too much, since even the idiots can figure it out if you win by too much.

It also costs ACORN less to Get out the Vote, and more of that money can be money laundered through Planned Profit or other Leftist grassroots insurgencies and Gramsci marchers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 million fake votes by Democrats. Just enough. Not too much, since even the idiots can figure it out if you win by too much.</p>
<p>It also costs ACORN less to Get out the Vote, and more of that money can be money laundered through Planned Profit or other Leftist grassroots insurgencies and Gramsci marchers.</p>
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		By: Michael Lonie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Lonie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 04:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you subtracted out dead voters and those who voted multiple times, I suspect that Hilary&#039;s lead in the &quot;popular vote&quot; would vanish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you subtracted out dead voters and those who voted multiple times, I suspect that Hilary&#8217;s lead in the &#8220;popular vote&#8221; would vanish.</p>
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		By: brdavis9		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/23/just-a-bit-more-about-those-polls/#comment-1958024</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 03:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was just listening to the radio, and the person mentioned that the popular vote lead is kind of nonsense BECAUSE:

1. Absentee ballots generally break 2-to-1 for Republicans nationwide (i.e., &quot;in most states&quot; ...even Dem leaning states ...because: didn&#039;t say, but I&#039;m guessing &quot;old folk&quot; lol).

2. Absentee ballots aren&#039;t generally counted UNLESS the Electoral vote appears unusually close (as TommyJay mentioned above).

3. At this point, CA alone has 4½M uncounted absentee ballots (per rule 1, which would likely add 1½M to Hil&#039;s 1½M &quot;lead&quot;, for 3M total nationally ...but would give Trump 3M ...so Trump &quot;tied/too close to call&quot; in the popular ...at which point multiply Rule 1 by all the state&#039;s that don&#039;t tally absentee ballots, yada-yada ...and it don&#039;t change a damn thing, because his EC vote is now - Michigan reporting today - 306.)

So TommyJames FTW.

I didn&#039;t know this. I&#039;m not googling it to confirm. Neo&#039;s better at this sort of research than me, anyways lol.

DISCLAIMER: I suck at math. So, YMMV even if the above is true.

Oh yeah: and a &lt;b&gt;Happy Thanksgiving everyone&lt;/b&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just listening to the radio, and the person mentioned that the popular vote lead is kind of nonsense BECAUSE:</p>
<p>1. Absentee ballots generally break 2-to-1 for Republicans nationwide (i.e., &#8220;in most states&#8221; &#8230;even Dem leaning states &#8230;because: didn&#8217;t say, but I&#8217;m guessing &#8220;old folk&#8221; lol).</p>
<p>2. Absentee ballots aren&#8217;t generally counted UNLESS the Electoral vote appears unusually close (as TommyJay mentioned above).</p>
<p>3. At this point, CA alone has 4½M uncounted absentee ballots (per rule 1, which would likely add 1½M to Hil&#8217;s 1½M &#8220;lead&#8221;, for 3M total nationally &#8230;but would give Trump 3M &#8230;so Trump &#8220;tied/too close to call&#8221; in the popular &#8230;at which point multiply Rule 1 by all the state&#8217;s that don&#8217;t tally absentee ballots, yada-yada &#8230;and it don&#8217;t change a damn thing, because his EC vote is now &#8211; Michigan reporting today &#8211; 306.)</p>
<p>So TommyJames FTW.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know this. I&#8217;m not googling it to confirm. Neo&#8217;s better at this sort of research than me, anyways lol.</p>
<p>DISCLAIMER: I suck at math. So, YMMV even if the above is true.</p>
<p>Oh yeah: and a <b>Happy Thanksgiving everyone</b>.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 03:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the schadenfreude after the hyperventilating on the Left (and the leftish Right) over Trump&#039;s riff on  waiting to see how the election turned out before deciding he would accept it.
Good times.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/11/17/los-angeles-county-decide-presidential-elections-us/
(the actual numbers are out of date, but the thesis point stands)

&quot;In recent decades, the Electoral College has served to solidify the political credibility of presidents who were elected with less than 50% of the popular vote, including John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton (in both of his elections).  It is by no means an institution structurally biased against Democrats.

But Democrats are now pushing variously to abolish the Electoral College, and even to circumvent its purpose right now, for this election, by pressuring the electors to contravene their states’ popular votes, so as to prevent Trump from getting the more-than-sufficient 290 electoral votes he is already assured by the current vote count.

In that context, it is very interesting to look at the 2016 vote through the prism of how it is distributed.
...
Quite a few commentators have pointed out, as the Wall Street Journal did on Tuesday, that California alone accounts for Hillary’s entire lead in the popular vote.

And that’s true.  But it doesn’t go far enough.

Los Angeles County alone accounts for Hillary’s lead in the popular vote.
...
If we removed the LA County vote from both candidates in the national total, and left the rest of the California vote in place, Trump would lead Hillary right now nationally, with 60,001,544 to her 59,723,194.

That’s about as regionally specialized as narrow majorities get.  &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the schadenfreude after the hyperventilating on the Left (and the leftish Right) over Trump&#8217;s riff on  waiting to see how the election turned out before deciding he would accept it.<br />
Good times.</p>
<p><a href="http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/11/17/los-angeles-county-decide-presidential-elections-us/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/11/17/los-angeles-county-decide-presidential-elections-us/</a><br />
(the actual numbers are out of date, but the thesis point stands)</p>
<p>&#8220;In recent decades, the Electoral College has served to solidify the political credibility of presidents who were elected with less than 50% of the popular vote, including John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton (in both of his elections).  It is by no means an institution structurally biased against Democrats.</p>
<p>But Democrats are now pushing variously to abolish the Electoral College, and even to circumvent its purpose right now, for this election, by pressuring the electors to contravene their states’ popular votes, so as to prevent Trump from getting the more-than-sufficient 290 electoral votes he is already assured by the current vote count.</p>
<p>In that context, it is very interesting to look at the 2016 vote through the prism of how it is distributed.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Quite a few commentators have pointed out, as the Wall Street Journal did on Tuesday, that California alone accounts for Hillary’s entire lead in the popular vote.</p>
<p>And that’s true.  But it doesn’t go far enough.</p>
<p>Los Angeles County alone accounts for Hillary’s lead in the popular vote.<br />
&#8230;<br />
If we removed the LA County vote from both candidates in the national total, and left the rest of the California vote in place, Trump would lead Hillary right now nationally, with 60,001,544 to her 59,723,194.</p>
<p>That’s about as regionally specialized as narrow majorities get.  &#8220;</p>
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		By: KLSmith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2016 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep. There must be a pony in there somewhere! Have a Happy Thanksgiving, all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. There must be a pony in there somewhere! Have a Happy Thanksgiving, all.</p>
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		By: Richard Stockinger		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/11/23/just-a-bit-more-about-those-polls/#comment-1956693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Stockinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2016 22:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did any polls measure how many women voted for HRC just because she was female, and for no other reason? (Uninformed voters......!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did any polls measure how many women voted for HRC just because she was female, and for no other reason? (Uninformed voters&#8230;&#8230;!)</p>
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