Turning a blind eye to that empowers those who think like that.

Having a man who essentially encourages it through his media company in such a position of influence on the president is a grave red flag on where this kind of thinking may be headed.

Of course it could turn out to be nothing. But there’s no reason to assume that.

What I’m saying is that dismissing these people as trolls is very dangerous. The Nazis in Germany were dismissed by many people at first, too, and for a while after that. If the internet had existed them, they would have been trolling, too.

There’s plenty of real anti-Semitism at websites these people run, just as real as that of the left. They are very serious. Whether they will ever act on it remains to be seen.

The only real anti-Semitism I have seen in a long time comes from the Left and Islam.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

steve bunion is a twofer on red flags:

He is to be appointed trump’s “valerie jarrett”.

He is also something of a “jeremiah wright” in that he led (leads) an organization that gives home / preaches to many who have the alt-r world view.

Time will tell exactly what the effect will be, but I suspect it gives prominence to that same world view as expressed at notsobritebarf.

I don’t know what an average citizen reads or doesn’t read.

But I can tell you that the first mention of the alt-right I can find on my blog was on August 10, 2015, in the comments section. That’s well over a year ago. Note this excerpt from that comment:

From what I gather, Trump supporters don’t identify with mainstream conservatives of the conventional Right. They’re more like what used to be called alt-right, though I haven’t seen that label used in a while and may not be wholly appropriate.

Their cause is anti-establishment against the edifice of American culture and politics, which they consider to be corrupted and splintered from their interests throughout.

Note that the commenter (Eric) writes what used to be called the alt-right, and that he doesn’t even know if they still use that word. If he was saying that a year and three months ago, and indicating the phrase was an older one, that tells you a lot about how long this has been around.

After that, there was often mention of the alt-right in the comments section here, and discussions about it. I decided to write a post about it in April of 2016, seven months ago.

WHO doesn’t know what he/she is talking about?

I most definitely know what I’m talking about. I am of the same generation as you, for starters. And I have studied history as well.

I have also been to many blogs where many people talk freely about sentiments that would make your blood run cold.

I very much know what I’m talking about.

Nor do I see anyone here suggesting that Bannon himself is bringing back the brownshirts.

“Hebe,” “kike,” sheeny,” and “Christ-killer” were very familiar words to me, as were fights with the Catholic boys. And that was NOTHING compared to what my father went through a generation before.

In 1967, George Lincoln Rockwell was invited to and came to speak at my college — a major Midwestern state university.

In 1973 or 74 my wife and I went to Palm Beach for a vacation. Jews were not admitted to many hotels or country clubs, and blacks had to be “over the bridge” (out of town) by midnight. (Incidently, you know who destroyed that town’s rules? Donald Trump, with his resort, that’s who.)

In 1978, some Nazis tried to march through the Chicago Jewish neighborhood of Skokie. Eventually, after the ACLU litigated it all the way to the US Supreme Court, about 20 Nazis showed up, milled around for 10 minutes, and left.

In 1991, three days of anti-Jewish riots broke out in Brooklyn after a car crash, with two deaths, many beatings, and looting, described as the worst anti-Semitic incident in US history.

Has anything remotely resembling those events happened in the last 25 years? And now you’re telling me that some guy, who runs a website, that has among its commenters some Mom’s basement-dwelling trolls, who like to pretend they’re big, bad racists, is bringing back the Brownshirts?

Please, don’t talk about anti-Semites and neo-Nazis. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

The first mention of alt.right that I encountered was on Tyler Cowen’s Marginal Revolution (an excellent blog). That might have been two or three months ago, but not earlier.

I wonder if Oldflyer’s “since at least the last year for the average citizens” is accurate.

Gold boy there talking about Bannon or somebody else? I distinctly remember Bannon got rid of a few Breitbart staffers that weren’t part of his faction, for going up to Trum and asking Trum questions.

Oldflyer Says:
November 15th, 2016 at 12:10 pm
People sure paint with a broad brush with their labels. Alt-right? Who defined it? Who belongs to it? Do they self identify?

Your ignorance isn’t exactly a point in your favor, Old. The Alternative Right has been on the horizon since at least last year for the average citizens, and from 2012 for a select minority.

As for riots, the Alt Right does their rioting online. It’s cheaper and more effective that way.