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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1824958</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 01:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;You may get your insurance through your employer or be wealthy enough to self insure, but for people who have no where to turn but Obamacare it is a ruinous. &lt;/b&gt;

All they have to do is become a Congress critter, since Congress has their gold and silver plated healthcare plans intact, which is a combination of the best free market solutions before Obamacare, community/doctor network exchanges, and the insurance model.

The reason why Congress has solid healthcare is because they pay into some kind of centralized fund, which is used with market forces to increase the efficiency of their doctor networks and care/medical resources.

One of the things I often said about Obamacare is that it is a kind of a consumption law. It is designed to ensure that the peons, meaning you and company, have to pay more for less medical resources. Why? So that the medical resources used to save the lives of Ted Kennedy and Congress, doesn&#039;t go to waste. There&#039;s some rare and valuable stuff that if got spent on everyone, would become harder for Congress to acquire for their healthcare.

The old consumption law in aristocracy was that you couldn&#039;t wear purple or dress like a noble, if you were a merchant or lower class. That reserved the top goods, the rare stuff, for the nobles, and prevented the merchants from competing by upping the bid.

As Obamacare makes medical resources more expensive for JJ and company, it ironically, makes it more cheaper and inexpensive for Congress. After all, aren&#039;t doctors leaving their care and hospitals because of malpractice and other issues? If doctors and nurses could join the payment plans offered by Congress, backed by the open market and centralized funds, they wouldn&#039;t have to worry about Medicare or emergency costs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You may get your insurance through your employer or be wealthy enough to self insure, but for people who have no where to turn but Obamacare it is a ruinous. </b></p>
<p>All they have to do is become a Congress critter, since Congress has their gold and silver plated healthcare plans intact, which is a combination of the best free market solutions before Obamacare, community/doctor network exchanges, and the insurance model.</p>
<p>The reason why Congress has solid healthcare is because they pay into some kind of centralized fund, which is used with market forces to increase the efficiency of their doctor networks and care/medical resources.</p>
<p>One of the things I often said about Obamacare is that it is a kind of a consumption law. It is designed to ensure that the peons, meaning you and company, have to pay more for less medical resources. Why? So that the medical resources used to save the lives of Ted Kennedy and Congress, doesn&#8217;t go to waste. There&#8217;s some rare and valuable stuff that if got spent on everyone, would become harder for Congress to acquire for their healthcare.</p>
<p>The old consumption law in aristocracy was that you couldn&#8217;t wear purple or dress like a noble, if you were a merchant or lower class. That reserved the top goods, the rare stuff, for the nobles, and prevented the merchants from competing by upping the bid.</p>
<p>As Obamacare makes medical resources more expensive for JJ and company, it ironically, makes it more cheaper and inexpensive for Congress. After all, aren&#8217;t doctors leaving their care and hospitals because of malpractice and other issues? If doctors and nurses could join the payment plans offered by Congress, backed by the open market and centralized funds, they wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about Medicare or emergency costs.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1824933</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 01:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea, for those with foresight, it is no surprise. To the average normals... well, they kept saying ObamaCare, nothing bad would happen and you could keep your doctor if you liked him so... humans believe all kinds of propaganda based on merely wishing that it is so. But wishing doesn&#039;t making reality change, unless someone has a really powerful will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, for those with foresight, it is no surprise. To the average normals&#8230; well, they kept saying ObamaCare, nothing bad would happen and you could keep your doctor if you liked him so&#8230; humans believe all kinds of propaganda based on merely wishing that it is so. But wishing doesn&#8217;t making reality change, unless someone has a really powerful will.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1823747</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 17:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Big Maq: &quot;Very hard to build support to repeal ACA, as the House GOP have put forward bills on, several times, but not have an answer to the concerns from enough constituents who would make up that support.

Too little too late.&quot;

Sometimes I  think you are so rational and above the fray that you would, like many other conservatives, reject solutions because.........well, just because they are late or too little or ???  

The  fact that the replacement plan has been hard to agree on, reflects all the various strains of the GOP. From RINO to hard core TEA Party everyone has a different opinion about what needs to be done. If it was easy, it would have been done years ago. 

What we knew and have now confirmed was that the centralized model does not work.  Moving toward a more market based plan that provides a safety net for those with pre-existing conditions would work far better than a top down system. 

I have experienced single payer medicine - the military model. I can tell you horror stories about how badly that system works. (And the VA is just the most obvious.) 

I don&#039;t care that the plan was only formulated in June 2016. I am all for  getting rid of Obamacare in anyway possible. My daughter and her partner,  because they are self -employed, have to buy Obamacare. They lost their doctors last year. This year they have ONE choice of insurers and their premiums went up another 30% (added to 75% from previous years increases) and their deductibles are $7500. You may get your insurance through your employer or be wealthy enough to self insure, but for people who have no where to turn but Obamacare it is a ruinous.  When enough people are affected and become incensed (Unlike you, who seems too cerebral to understand.) we will get change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Maq: &#8220;Very hard to build support to repeal ACA, as the House GOP have put forward bills on, several times, but not have an answer to the concerns from enough constituents who would make up that support.</p>
<p>Too little too late.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes I  think you are so rational and above the fray that you would, like many other conservatives, reject solutions because&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;well, just because they are late or too little or ???  </p>
<p>The  fact that the replacement plan has been hard to agree on, reflects all the various strains of the GOP. From RINO to hard core TEA Party everyone has a different opinion about what needs to be done. If it was easy, it would have been done years ago. </p>
<p>What we knew and have now confirmed was that the centralized model does not work.  Moving toward a more market based plan that provides a safety net for those with pre-existing conditions would work far better than a top down system. </p>
<p>I have experienced single payer medicine &#8211; the military model. I can tell you horror stories about how badly that system works. (And the VA is just the most obvious.) </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care that the plan was only formulated in June 2016. I am all for  getting rid of Obamacare in anyway possible. My daughter and her partner,  because they are self -employed, have to buy Obamacare. They lost their doctors last year. This year they have ONE choice of insurers and their premiums went up another 30% (added to 75% from previous years increases) and their deductibles are $7500. You may get your insurance through your employer or be wealthy enough to self insure, but for people who have no where to turn but Obamacare it is a ruinous.  When enough people are affected and become incensed (Unlike you, who seems too cerebral to understand.) we will get change.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1823542</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We knew from Hillary care what was going to happen. In 1995 Tennessee enacted Hillary care, only they called it Tenncare. By 2004 the cost more than tripled from 2.5 billion to 8 billion a year. Tenncare became the largest line item in the Tennessee state budget. They had to drastically scale back the program because it was going to bankrupt the state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We knew from Hillary care what was going to happen. In 1995 Tennessee enacted Hillary care, only they called it Tenncare. By 2004 the cost more than tripled from 2.5 billion to 8 billion a year. Tenncare became the largest line item in the Tennessee state budget. They had to drastically scale back the program because it was going to bankrupt the state.</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1823106</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;No surprise&quot; is easier to type than &quot;This is my shocked face&quot;. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No surprise&#8221; is easier to type than &#8220;This is my shocked face&#8221;. 🙂</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1821432</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 03:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The unaffordable cancer act was designed to fail. The medical cabal (insurance, big pharms, hospitals, caregivers) were sucker punched into believing their palms would be greased. Fools. LIVs swallowed the blue pill. Fools.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unaffordable cancer act was designed to fail. The medical cabal (insurance, big pharms, hospitals, caregivers) were sucker punched into believing their palms would be greased. Fools. LIVs swallowed the blue pill. Fools.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1821246</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2016 02:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s wonderful Republicans nominated Trump. Otherwise we would be discussing the failures of Obamacare and other disasters in this campaign.

Crotch grabs are so much more substantive, you know?

Thank you Trump supporters!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s wonderful Republicans nominated Trump. Otherwise we would be discussing the failures of Obamacare and other disasters in this campaign.</p>
<p>Crotch grabs are so much more substantive, you know?</p>
<p>Thank you Trump supporters!</p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1820014</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 21:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Pundits all say the Republicans can’t say much because they have no alternative. Which, of course, is a lie.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - JJ

The problem is you point to a proposal only released on June 22 2016.

This is something that the GOP should have been on one page LONG ago.  

&quot;Repeal and Replace&quot; was a nice slogan, but &quot;With What?&quot; was always on people&#039;s minds.  

Very hard to build support to repeal ACA, as the House GOP have put forward bills on, several times, but not have an answer to the concerns from enough constituents who would make up that support.

Too little too late.

With trump having blown it, ACA will become a wedge issue for dems as the GOP will be d*mned if they do anything to shore it up from complete disaster, and d*mned that they do nothing while a large swath of voters are impacted by that disaster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Pundits all say the Republicans can’t say much because they have no alternative. Which, of course, is a lie.&#8221;</em> &#8211; JJ</p>
<p>The problem is you point to a proposal only released on June 22 2016.</p>
<p>This is something that the GOP should have been on one page LONG ago.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Repeal and Replace&#8221; was a nice slogan, but &#8220;With What?&#8221; was always on people&#8217;s minds.  </p>
<p>Very hard to build support to repeal ACA, as the House GOP have put forward bills on, several times, but not have an answer to the concerns from enough constituents who would make up that support.</p>
<p>Too little too late.</p>
<p>With trump having blown it, ACA will become a wedge issue for dems as the GOP will be d*mned if they do anything to shore it up from complete disaster, and d*mned that they do nothing while a large swath of voters are impacted by that disaster.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1819737</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just saw CNN&#039;s coverage tonight and they briefly mentioned the double-digit price increase, but not much else. No info about deductables, copays, or limited nets of providers. Then they switched over to talking about Florida voting. What a way to keep voters informed about important issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw CNN&#8217;s coverage tonight and they briefly mentioned the double-digit price increase, but not much else. No info about deductables, copays, or limited nets of providers. Then they switched over to talking about Florida voting. What a way to keep voters informed about important issues.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/25/obamacare/#comment-1819355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Yet I hear almost nothing about it except for Trump’s vow to repeal it.&lt;/b&gt;

Trum loved socialized medicine in 2015, what changed?

Of course they&#039;ll change Obamacare. To Canada, UK, and Cuba&#039;s system, which works &quot;better&quot; in the eyes of so called &quot;non ideologues&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Yet I hear almost nothing about it except for Trump’s vow to repeal it.</b></p>
<p>Trum loved socialized medicine in 2015, what changed?</p>
<p>Of course they&#8217;ll change Obamacare. To Canada, UK, and Cuba&#8217;s system, which works &#8220;better&#8221; in the eyes of so called &#8220;non ideologues&#8221;.</p>
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