The Mormons do not vote as a church block, the way black liberation theologians do under the Leftist plantation enforcers like Jackson or Sharpton.

Reid, for example, is a Mormon. Check out that little “accident” of his and correlate to Mormon history, for something interesting. That type of “accident” has happened before. Reid is for homosexual marriage, which is against his Church’s policies and hierarchy. Specifically Prop 8 was it in California.

The reason why they are called Mormons and not Christians, is because Mormon is one of the prophets in the Book of Mormon, the author or scribe at least. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, is mostly concerned about how to create Latter Day Saints, meaning perfected humans, same as the Cathars of old tried to obtain. Other Christian sects or those who prosecuted the early Saints, chasing them to Utah, denied their Christian lineage or loyalties. And if you are not Christian, you can be stoned or burned or killed, nobody will care. That’s how it was with the Salem witches and with various purges in Europe. All of it is merely heretical and corrupted derivations of the Christian Gospel, but it’s designed to appear as if it is the True Gospel and doctrine. Burning witches wasn’t the true gospel, and even the clerics and scholars back then who stopped it, knew it wasn’t the true gospel.

Mormon is just a prophet, like Isaiah or Jonas, or John the Baptist. Jesus Christ still has a higher theological hierarchy and ranking.

I am going to look into him further. Plus regardless of the above it gives me an out since I don’t really want to have to explain voting for Clinton for the rest of my life to other conservatives, or even to myself, unless I feel I have to. Of course a lot of them are voting for Clinton, notable conservatives. But I would rather not if there is any kind of alternative. Johnson does not ring my bell. And I cannot vote for Trump under any circumstance. I would vote Clinton over Trump at this point and pick the devil I know vs. the devil I don’t know. Someone on Ricochet said it is between a criminal (Clinton) and a madman (Trump) and of course, he said the only sane choice is the criminal. The madman cannot be in the office of the presidency period. The criminal, or at least this one, is cool as a cucumber and can steer the ship. The debates showed me that if nothing else.

Anyway, checking him out.

Talking about it doesn’t do any good, and Eric’s particular branding is a bit too technical and not designed for mass production.

It’s easier just to look at organizations that can coral many many humans together in one goal. Disaster relief from various churches. ACORN or ACLU type common interest organizations.

If you don’t like their politics and thus refuse to learn from your enemy, then in this case, consider the church that Evan M is loyal to. They are known for a number of high level organizational efforts, top down and bottom up. How do they accomplish organized effort, if as Sharon and others say, people are too busy with job and family in life?

Because it’s volunteer work. If you don’t volunteer, the work doesn’t get done. So does that mean people have to protest on the streets every day or week? Well, do the Mormons protest on the street every day or week for disaster relief or do they just go there in person to reconstruct disaster areas?

Do the Southern Baptists need to lodge formal and unofficial protests in Africa, to send their missionaries there, funded and organized by a central confederacy style hierarchy? I haven’t seen any news of these protests.

If you don’t show up to do the volunteer work, then you aren’t “active”. If you aren’t active, then the activists will take control of the organization and thus the funding.

Eric has his view on activism and I have my own, they aren’t necessarily all that different. I’m just used to managing average and sub average humans, since I understand why they don’t get it.

I don’t doubt it. But if republicans wouldn’t have supported 3rd parties during this elections, they could claim that a new 3rd party from Trump would help Democrats to stay in power.

Now they can’t complain for Trump doing in the future something they already did. Once you give up you legitimacy card, you don’t get it back.

Maybe Trump could have win the election with republican support, maybe not (it seems almost sure that he’s gonna lose). From Trump’s point of view, the best scenario was winning the election, of course, but in case of losing it, it was much better to lose without the support of Republican Party than to lose with it, because this is gonna give him much more freedom and legitimacy in the future.

There was never any doubt that Trump and/or his supporters might form a third party if he didn’t get elected. In fact, one of the main reasons (in my opinion) that the GOP didn’t kick him to the curb at some point during his candidacy, when they realized he might win the GOP nomination, was the very deep fear that he might then run as an Independent or some third party and cause them to lose with whoever they had nominated in his place.

So I fail to get why you think that someone voting third party would make that situation worse, when it already has been fully and clearly present from the start, in the attitude of both Trump and his followers. It was an act of destructive genius on his part to run under the GOP banner this year rather than as third party in the first place, as I would have expected originally.

Just think that if Trump loses, he can make a 3rd party and take with him half of the republican votes.

And what would you say then? Maybe it’s unfair because such a 3rd party would damage republican chances in future elections? Congrats, you have already given him the perfect excuse to dismiss that claim.

That is why it’s been so effective and the responses are so ineffective: because the Gramscian march is executed by market mechanisms, but the response is centrally-planned.

You will continue to fail against it until you stop thinking like a leftist.

McCullin is on the ballot in Iowa. I may vote for him, but will vote for GJ if he looks like the most likely 3rd party candidate to win the most votes, although McCullin would be my first choice.