Actually, although some of the people I banned were newcomers, some were oldtimers here—or at least, had come significantly before Trump announced his candidacy. Some were bona fide old-timers here.

And not all were actually banned. Some left of their own accord many months ago.

My traffic had been fairly stable for many years, but this year it went down about 15-20%. I am almost certain that most of it was pro-Trumpers who left. Some of them informed me of that fact.

AMANPOUR: Can I just try one last question? One last question. A bit cheeky but I’m going to ask you. Russia had its own Pussy Riot moment. What do you think of Donald Trump’s pussy riot moment?

LAVROV: Well, I don’t know what this would… English is not my mother tongue, I don’t know if I would sound decent. There are so many pussies around the presidential campaign on both sides that I prefer not to comment on this.

“I think anyone and everyone who expected something better this election cycle is very frustrated and angry, and we all react to those emotions differently. …

Also, I think that Ace was originally—for a couple of years actually–part of the “Burn it down!” contingent. So although he’s really not a Trump fan (he went from “Trump curious” to “anti-Trump” to “Trump is better than Hillary and I’m NeverHillary”), he has been very very anti-GOPe. I think that’s coming out a lot now, in his frustration, as he sees the chances of a Hillary presidency grow.” – Neo

Used to get caught up in the day to day rants in the “conservative” blogosphere / media, but came to the conclusion that those who spout off like “know it alls”, and speak “loudly” and “angry” are probably the least credible to listen to, and are, overall, poisoning (as promoting anger like that is blinding). The anger may help bring in eyeballs, but it doesn’t help moving the ball forward.

Ace was / is one of those. It is not surprising he flip flopped on trump to the two extremes.

From the mouth Tsar DNW comes such wisdom and profundity!

Nope, just arrogance and condescension, “not a bug its a feature.” 🙂

“Ymarsakar Says:
October 12th, 2016 at 1:57 am

The first thing I would do, is to stop drilling holes in the bottom of the boat and stop anyone else from doing so if they wish to be considred anything but enemies.

Once we stop sabotaging ourselves, the bailing may become less frantic and exhausting.

If DNW considers me and those like me an enemy, I’ll gladly put em on the shoot to kill ROE list. But I don’t think it’s going to do much good for them.

Is it possible that the lengthy thread and exchange context concerning the rule of law, and its enforcement, both as to immigration and other matters, and its sabotage by elected and appointed officials for political ends, somehow escaped his notice?

Because, again, I cannot for the life of me imagine what he actually thinks he is responding to.

Not a single Trump first man on your blog.”

neo-neocon Says:
October 11th, 2016 at 7:18 pm

DNW:

Untrue.

“Yankee” is a Trump first man, I’m fairly sure. He’s certainly been a Trump guy since before Trump won the primaries. Ditto several other commenters. There also were many many many early Trump supporters who came here in droves last summer, fall, and winter, right into spring. They pretty much are all gone now, because their work is done here.

“Yankee” might have been, and there were several unnamed others.

Well, I’m not sure who Yankee is, but if you say he might have been, then I will acknowledge that he might have been.

As for the unnamed others, I cannot say one way or another never having noticed.

You do however make a point that you banned Trump activists and spoilers who came to your blog to maraud and disrupt.

That reminds me that I was – probably unjustifiably – assuming the persons I was referring to would be understood as long-time commenters.

I’ll try to be more careful in formulating class statements next time.

DNW:

As I wrote earlier, they believe the war you are fighting is over. Finished. Outcome a certainty: Trump loss.

Whether that is true or not remains to be seen. But that’s how you are seen: as fighting a war that is over, and lost.”

Well, there is losing and there is losing. Just because you lose, doesn’t mean you have to become “friends” with the trimmers again. LOL

Until something like the government’s actively interfering with family structure and all voluntary associations occurs [and Z-net is not directing all civil life yet], the losers will be free to regroup, and have the benefit of knowing better who to exclude from their rebuilding program, and why it is necessary. That is of course, if they have any interest in doing so.

“If DNW considers me and those like me an enemy, I’ll gladly put em on the shoot to kill ROE list. But I don’t think it’s going to do much good for them.”

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Ymarsakar Says:
October 12th, 2016 at 1:59 am

Also I don’t recall when DNW went Apocalypse now all of a sudden.

You’re reading too much into what I’ve said.

I have clearly and multiply stated that the name United States of America, will not suddenly disappear.

I have clearly and multiply stated that the predicate of our political and social association was fundamentally, if somewhat covertly changed by Obama Care.

I have numerous times, and without what seemed to me any emotional investment, suggested that the social divisions and hard feelings in this polity will continue to escalate as two (or more) fundamentally incompatible lifeways and worldviews struggle in the same geographic and political space in a non-reciprocal dynamic wherein one [the conservative] neither needs nor wants from the other, what the other [the progressive] unceasingly demands, and apparently cannot live without, from it.

I have also I think noted that while I want nothing to do with it, I don’t particularly care if social violence erupts and redounds upon the hysterical; though I believe that many of those mentally unbalanced who are pushing and playing at it will come to regret their hot headed insistence on shoving others to the brink.

“It didn’t seem like many commenters here in 2012 was talking about Civil War 2 or DoomsdayAmerica or Survival Prepping or any other signs.”

I am not talking about prepping. If I were prepping, I would not talk about it anyway. If I have indicated anything, it concerns choosing your friends more wisely, and investing commitments into people who actually reciprocate.

Perhaps my use of the term “goddamned” to describe the political product of progressivism is what has you disconcerted. I may regret using it, but not for the social etiquette reasons one might suspect.

I have for example noted that many people are sensitive to the idea of one human being shrugging at the idea of another ostensible human being, being consigned to Hell; even if they do not believe in it. Whereas the most vulgar epithets bother these secularists much less.

Must have something more to do with that Bonobo solidarity impulse that meanders through the human population; and less with any real spiritual insight or conviction.

It didn’t seem like many commenters here in 2012 was talking about Civil War 2 or DoomsdayAmerica or Survival Prepping or any other signs.

I just find it ironic that people are castigating Bill and B for not believing in the Apocalypse. After all, plenty of people thought just like them barely a few years ago. I may have cause to complain about Americans ignoring the signs, but why does anyone else have a problem with them.