The point that differs from yours is over the timeline of what caused State Rights to become an issue. My position is that the South and the North both claimed State Rights, even before 1850. That is very different from your claim that the end of Civil War 1, put the issue on the table instead.

To omni tool:

Also for someone that believes God knows what is in your heart, it’s surprising you can just let out your venom and bitterness online without thinking you’ll be judged for hating your neighbor. God has provided people free will, yes even the Trum and Democrat supporters. It’s not something for you to castigate them for using, just because you believe you alone have a conscience and are righteous.

Not sure you are arguing with me or against me, as your points seem to lead to the same conclusion.

The South wanted to retain the ability to have slavery. Regardless of the primary political / legal arguments made by the South at the time, essentially they brought it to a head by claiming the right to secede, thus the Civil War put the issue of States Rights on the table.

This God of yours doesn’t seem to match up with the God of the Old and New Testaments. The God who is omniscience, immortal, all powerful.

Based on what I read in the Bible, Acts, Nero was busy crucifying Christians in Rome and killing disciples of Christ, for some reason. Probably helps to cover up his little arson, which he used to confiscate land from nobles to build a statue to Nero as Divine Emperor.

The amazing account of Paul’s journey to Rome, instigated by various assassination attempts against him by the Jews (it’s right there in the Bible accounts), to me was how obedient to human law and jurisdiction and due process the Roman citizens and judges were, compared to the zealot Jews acting like all the disciples of Jesus were breaking the law of Moses. Bearing false testimony indeed.

But considering how many humans saw the Planned Profit videos and still support human blood magic sacrifice, that tells God something. God may be able to see into human hearts, but God often tests humans, to see if they will fall to Lucifer’s temptations.

Lucifer manipulates humans, and then humans turn evil, of course. But while a human may claim that he was only “thinking” of doing evil, he wasn’t responsible for it, God can provide them the more severe punishment if in mortal life they actually knowingly supported evil. With the Planned Profit tapes, they can’t say they didn’t know. That’s like a person under human law saying they didn’t know rape and running over children was against the law, so they should not be punished. Ignorance under human law is no excuse. Ignorance under divine law, may indeed excuse them from punishment, which is why they can’t take back what they did after we told them the Planned Profit videos showed the evil of their cause. They knew this, rejected the truth, and still contribute to the cause of evil. Knowingly, in their own profit, decadence.

And everybody who sees this and tolerates it, is guilty by association. It’s that problem of how God wipes out Soddom and Gomorrah because there wasn’t even 5 righteous souls in the city. Collateral damage, justified. Americans who let evil gather around and grow, may come to regret it.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+23&version=NIV

The Romans had great respect for what Americans would term law and order, due process. It echoes what Paul later wrote in his epistles, concerning the difference between a Gentile that follows righteous laws that adhere to Godly divine laws, vs a Jew who is physically purified yet does not follow the laws in spirit or in heart.

Their Emperors probably had some evil spirits inhabiting their body, similar to what we see in Hussein Obola and Hillary Rod Damn Clinton. The citizen body of the empire, the centurions, the border guards, and the local provincial judges and governors were what really kept the empire stable and working. The flyover country, loyal bureaucrats.

Also notice how free transportation was even in 1st AD Rome, Egypt, Syria, etc. Naval technology got better and safer in the Mediterranean in 700-1000AD. The Vikings, for example, sailed all the way from Norway to a sea near Constantinople, via inland rivers and porting. Yet why did transportation and trade between those areas diminish over time?

Islam came to fruition during the 7th century, I recall. Maybe that had something to do with it? Heh

It’s nice to put all that learning to use, since in 2007, I refrained from even mentioning an apocalypse, since that was just crazy talk. Nobody was going to go along with that, except maybe white Stormfront or Black Panther race war wannabes.

It feels good to let the mask drop and let loose with what I think is really going to happen. Although since 2012, I started doing more and more of that here and elsewhere. In 2007, I had to pretend that I was on topic and just talking about human nature. Yea, the human nature to self destruct and make Civil War 2 inevitable in the US perhaps.

The moment when things changed was when I noticed other people in random comment sections on Disquis started talking about civil war or the things I was thinking of or had written before. Still crazy talk back then, of course, but sometimes the crazy talk becomes true.

One reason I am calm when everyone else has been losing their heads over all kinds of things, half of which are the Demoncrats evils I’ve been preaching about for years, has to do with the progression of my beliefs. I, of course, mentioned Clinton’s rapist history a few times as well, way before it was “popular” to do so in social media.

It seems far more likely to me that the last days of Judgment is getting a little too close. If that is the case, God will judge and inflict vengeance upon the evil, or use evil to shatter evil. Not exactly a nice time to live in, but interesting at least. Entire generations have gone by, without being able to testify that they were here not only to Witness the Last Battle of the United States of America, but to fight in it.

If the world is going to burn or get reset like Noah’s flood, I, for one, will stand and watch, as people’s souls are judged. I may learn something few other humans have. As a self proclaimed mad scientist, the field of studying the spirit or the soul is still fresh and new, not something I’ll just let pass me by for human common sense.

To clarify something, their power isn’t held in reserve the way you use it, since the Left needs money to maintain organizations like Planned Profit or ACORN, and the IRS needs an operating budget. By reserve, I use it in terms of reserving it for peace or war.

These assets are under the Left’s control, whether people knew it or not in 2009. What people here don’t know is what the Left is doing, while people focus on what’s been leaked and has become public knowledge. Fast and Furious, IRS freezing assets and donations of Tea Party conservatives so they fail to make a difference in the 2012 election, all that stuff was known after it happened, via leaks or whistle blowers.

When the Left deploys a strategic asset, that asset is used up, they can’t convert it back into a normal sleeper cell any more that is operating normally. Like Islam, there is a House of Peace and a House of War. And like BLM, they’ll preach Peace and Diversity, up until they get enough weapons and power to start doing Violence and Terror. But once they flip that switch, they won’t go back.

Right now, much of the Left’s strategic power is in reserve, meaning it’s operating by normal maintenance standards. They haven’t mobilized them for war yet. A lot of what people see in DC is just DC power politics, converted to war under Leftist dominion. What they don’t see is all the other stuff happening under the hood.

The Left cannot mobilize more than 50% of their strategic reserves, even now it’s only at around 20%, precisely because they rushed the time tables for war. The Americans ARE NOT disarmed. They cannot just deploy 50% of their strategic reserves into the field, because most of it would be annihilated. They know this. So they keep it in reserve, and pretend it’s just “peaceful bureaucrats”. It’s not peaceful police unions and bureaucrats. It’s not even peaceful “black anti war protesters” any more.

But just because they don’t want to use it now, doesn’t mean they won’t use it in the future when conditions on the field change. Right now, they are husbanding their forces, taking over local cities and counties, while people are distracted by power politics. The Left’s left hand moves on, while the right hand fights against the US patriots. Meanwhile, the US patriots perceive that the right hand fighting them is the only power they need to defeat on the Left. From my pov, that’s not so. The Left has a head, some knees, two legs, that they will also use in time when needed.

Speaking for myslf, I am most uncomfortable to discover how many conservatives and Republicans suddenly have little concern with principles, decency, honesty, reason and the Constitution as long as they get their authoritarian bully-boy candidate into office, they imagine to do their bidding.-Huxley

Humans are weak. They are easy to tempt into evil. With human morality under atheism and power megalomania, the mask of civilization will always fall the second there’s a famine or crash of the public trust. It’s merely the limit of human power, and the trueness of human nature. If humans were better, we would have had one civilization from BC onwards, never falling or destroying it, ever improving, until we could control all of quantum mechanics and this solar system by now. But we don’t.

America was no exception to the rule of fallen civilizations. If it was exceptional, it was only exceptional because humans obeyed God and had a personal contract from this nation to the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, that so long as Americans were righteous, God’s grace will protect America. If Americans become unrighteous, they will be destroyed or lose the protection, they’ll be cut off and on their own.

That’s probably what the Founding Fathers meant by “Under God” even. Human laws were meant to govern humans, but without recognition of the Creator as in charge of divine laws which supersede human laws, humans can just do whatever they want, make up any new law as they see fit. The true guarantor and protector of the US Constitution wasn’t Congress or some judges, it was the righteousness of the American people and obedience to the divine laws and moralities. If it was just human atheism, human law, and human power we served, then we will go up as we go down, just like any other human civilization. Kings, dictators, totalitarians, military geniuses like Attila, Alexander, Ghenghis, have tried to fight this cycle, but if they can’t succeed, nobody else can.

State’s rights became much diminished as they were essentially put on the table by those who wanted to keep slavery.-B

Most of that is a propaganda illusion told by the losers, though.

It wasn’t State Rights, the Confederates fought for, but for more federal political power to enforce the Fugitive Slave Acts. It was abolitionist states like New York which nullified the Fugitive Slave Acts, and prevented the feds from enforcing them, that were pissing off the slave lords enough that they seceded. It’s all there in the Secession documents. The Fugitive Slave Acts were mentioned by a significant portion of states as being the reason they left.

State Rights were what the Irish/Scot whites fought for, but since it was the slave lords that started the war and it was the slave lords that were immune to serving in the war, the Irish/Scots had to come up with a reason why they were fighting. That’s the reason they came up with, or was given, something they could swallow instead of the truth. Which is that they were just some aristocrat’s cannonfodder, used to fight a war for slavery when the poor whites didn’t even own slaves. Like I said, humans are easy to deceive. They don’t know any better.

Surely you can relate. How many liberals have you persuaded over to conservatism? I can think of only one. But perhaps you’re more persuasive.

Personally, I find it easier to talk about Jesus Christ and converting people to Christianity, than converting a Leftist from worship of Lucifer/Deus Ex machina gods to something politically different. Once a human has their Authority set, it’s not easy to shake that bedrock without physically or mentally shattering them first. Religion > Politics in epistemology, metaphysics, and Authority.

Paul/Saul’s conversion is a good example to keep in mind. Not someone who would have stopped persecuting Christians if any old Jew told him to stop (Reason/Politics). Saul was operating under the highest judicial executive authority of the Jews, and perhaps even with the writ of the Romans. Unless they told him to stop, he wasn’t going to. Only when a higher authority came, did Saul begin to question his actions, but if Saul had not recognized that as being a higher authority, he would have hardened his heart and continued his ways. This isn’t a business competing against a business. Even if you could convince Saul, by reason, that the Sanhedrin were in the wrong, Saul would still have obeyed those edicts. It doesn’t matter if politically he is wrong, as he is still under orders and Authority. Same for Leftists. It’s not businesses competing. You aren’t an equal to Saul’s authority, unless you’re God.

This is why Muslims always convert the atheists first. They usually leave the Jews, Christians, and other hardcore sects alone at first. But if you say you are agnostic or atheist, then they’re on you and taking you to Mosque or talking about the wonders of Islamic Golden Age and covering up of women.

Even con artists have testified that atheists are easy to con with a social game. Since all they care about is social attention and status. The ones devoted to family hierarchy or some other Authority, con artists usually avoid those people like the plague, because they can’t out argue what people never reasoned themselves into with greed.

It is a high-pressure sales tactic designed to inflame voters into making poor choices.

Humans are so weak, Americans are no exception, that any tactic can be used to make them fall for poor choices. Consider pornography and Hollywood. I can think up 12 other ones off the top of my list that doesn’t have to do with Doomsday APocalypse America.

Nothing about you or any other human has changed back then. You don’t understand those times, but even if you did, your situation is not much different.

The argument from ignorance pov only goes so far, but it’s not something you can win against evil or power with.

None of which is something I predicted, mind you.