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		By: geokstr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2016 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At least CNN and MSNBC will have something to do again for the next couple days in the few dead spaces they have between Trump-bashing and Hillary-licking. Space aliens have not yet been totally ruled out, you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least CNN and MSNBC will have something to do again for the next couple days in the few dead spaces they have between Trump-bashing and Hillary-licking. Space aliens have not yet been totally ruled out, you know.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There was a gee-whiz article saying that the plane was not ready to fly...because the automatic position reporting device wasn&#039;t working.
Well, if it had been working...finding the crash site would have been easier.
So the pilot ran a course to nowhere on his home computer.  Proves that the thought occurred to him, for some reason.  Hell, I think of suicide a lot--I&#039;m in the life insurance business.
It only takes the memory of looking at a globe in the fourth grade to know that flying due south until the fuel runs out would be just dandy.
But what about the other gyrations prior to that?  Unnecessary distraction?  
What were the authorities going to do once they found him heading south?  Shoot him down?
He&#039;d had some personal reverses in his life.  Most people can commit suicide by themselves.  I mean, you could shoot the driver of a tour bus in Glacier Park and drive it over the edge with everybody on board, but apparently it hasn&#039;t happened.
Then there was that German co pilot....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a gee-whiz article saying that the plane was not ready to fly&#8230;because the automatic position reporting device wasn&#8217;t working.<br />
Well, if it had been working&#8230;finding the crash site would have been easier.<br />
So the pilot ran a course to nowhere on his home computer.  Proves that the thought occurred to him, for some reason.  Hell, I think of suicide a lot&#8211;I&#8217;m in the life insurance business.<br />
It only takes the memory of looking at a globe in the fourth grade to know that flying due south until the fuel runs out would be just dandy.<br />
But what about the other gyrations prior to that?  Unnecessary distraction?<br />
What were the authorities going to do once they found him heading south?  Shoot him down?<br />
He&#8217;d had some personal reverses in his life.  Most people can commit suicide by themselves.  I mean, you could shoot the driver of a tour bus in Glacier Park and drive it over the edge with everybody on board, but apparently it hasn&#8217;t happened.<br />
Then there was that German co pilot&#8230;.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 20:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[brdavis9:

No, you didn&#039;t miss anything.  There is good reason to suspect the pilot.  But there is no hard evidence, and we may never get the answer.  At the moment, it is speculation, although based on things such as the simulator history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brdavis9:</p>
<p>No, you didn&#8217;t miss anything.  There is good reason to suspect the pilot.  But there is no hard evidence, and we may never get the answer.  At the moment, it is speculation, although based on things such as the simulator history.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 20:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert:

&quot;Souls on board&quot; is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; &quot;a phrase that dances away from the stark reality that folks died via acts of God and nature.&quot;  That is, it is not intended to be, because it is also sometimes used for the people on an airplane or a ship who land alive and well. 

Did you follow the link?:
&lt;blockquote&gt;... the phrase is obviously older than [aviation] and used in situations besides emergencies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Apparently, it is actually meant to do the &lt;i&gt;opposite&lt;/i&gt; of what you suggest: it is used to remind people (pilots, captains, etc.) of &quot;the mortal danger of a life at sea, especially for naval ships: discipline, disease, death, drowning...&quot;

Also see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/55/messages/368.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Souls on board&quot; is the common term used by pilots and air traffic controllers to identify the people on board an aircraft. In response to the previous question, it does not have any &quot;dark&quot; implications. For example the pilot might say &quot;I have 10 souls on board&quot; meaning that 10 people are on board the aircraft. As a pilot it is a commonly heard term on the radio.

The air transport community derived this from seafaring usage; &quot;X souls on board&quot; was a nautical phrase long before powered flight. I think the point is that ships required a term that comprehensively covered everyone who could possibly be on board, in whatever capacity: the officers, the crew, the crew&#039;s families, the supercargo, the passengers, the local pilot, native bumboatwomen, etc. etc. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert:</p>
<p>&#8220;Souls on board&#8221; is <i>not</i> &#8220;a phrase that dances away from the stark reality that folks died via acts of God and nature.&#8221;  That is, it is not intended to be, because it is also sometimes used for the people on an airplane or a ship who land alive and well. </p>
<p>Did you follow the link?:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; the phrase is obviously older than [aviation] and used in situations besides emergencies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently, it is actually meant to do the <i>opposite</i> of what you suggest: it is used to remind people (pilots, captains, etc.) of &#8220;the mortal danger of a life at sea, especially for naval ships: discipline, disease, death, drowning&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Also see <a href="http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/55/messages/368.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Souls on board&#8221; is the common term used by pilots and air traffic controllers to identify the people on board an aircraft. In response to the previous question, it does not have any &#8220;dark&#8221; implications. For example the pilot might say &#8220;I have 10 souls on board&#8221; meaning that 10 people are on board the aircraft. As a pilot it is a commonly heard term on the radio.</p>
<p>The air transport community derived this from seafaring usage; &#8220;X souls on board&#8221; was a nautical phrase long before powered flight. I think the point is that ships required a term that comprehensively covered everyone who could possibly be on board, in whatever capacity: the officers, the crew, the crew&#8217;s families, the supercargo, the passengers, the local pilot, native bumboatwomen, etc. etc. </p></blockquote>
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		By: brdavis9		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 20:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there some reason &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; to draw what would seem to be rational conclusions about probable pilot malfeasance, per these? 

(...probably same root source btw.)

&lt;b&gt;NYMag&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;b&gt;The Independent&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-simulator-final-flight-missing-malaysian-airlines-a7152581.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MH370 pilot flew &#039;suicide route&#039; on a simulator &#039;closely matching&#039; his final flight&lt;/a&gt;

Did I miss something, post reading these?

I&#039;m confused. 

(Which is a more or less normal condition these days, so &quot;no biggie&quot; lol.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some reason <em>not</em> to draw what would seem to be rational conclusions about probable pilot malfeasance, per these? </p>
<p>(&#8230;probably same root source btw.)</p>
<p><b>NYMag</b> <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html" rel="nofollow">MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight</a></p>
<p><b>The Independent</b> <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-simulator-final-flight-missing-malaysian-airlines-a7152581.html" rel="nofollow">MH370 pilot flew &#8216;suicide route&#8217; on a simulator &#8216;closely matching&#8217; his final flight</a></p>
<p>Did I miss something, post reading these?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused. </p>
<p>(Which is a more or less normal condition these days, so &#8220;no biggie&#8221; lol.)</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 19:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yancy, I&#039;m with you.

Souls on board is used as a felicitous phrase as the issue at hand is DEATH.

It&#039;s a phrase that dances away from the stark reality that folks died via acts of God and nature.

Whereas, all souls -- by definition -- can&#039;t ever die.

Hence the formulation, it&#039;s less harsh upon the minds of the living.

You&#039;ll find that &quot;dead, perished, deaths&quot; are usually omitted, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yancy, I&#8217;m with you.</p>
<p>Souls on board is used as a felicitous phrase as the issue at hand is DEATH.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a phrase that dances away from the stark reality that folks died via acts of God and nature.</p>
<p>Whereas, all souls &#8212; by definition &#8212; can&#8217;t ever die.</p>
<p>Hence the formulation, it&#8217;s less harsh upon the minds of the living.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find that &#8220;dead, perished, deaths&#8221; are usually omitted, too.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sometimes airplane crashes on land aren&#039;t found for a long time.
http://elkodaily.com/news/local/fossett-plane-wreckage-found-famous-pilot-killed-instantly-when-airplane/article_8a76330e-d705-5898-90b6-37fec1e1b4da.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes airplane crashes on land aren&#8217;t found for a long time.<br />
<a href="http://elkodaily.com/news/local/fossett-plane-wreckage-found-famous-pilot-killed-instantly-when-airplane/article_8a76330e-d705-5898-90b6-37fec1e1b4da.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://elkodaily.com/news/local/fossett-plane-wreckage-found-famous-pilot-killed-instantly-when-airplane/article_8a76330e-d705-5898-90b6-37fec1e1b4da.html</a></p>
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		By: Vanderleun		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanderleun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t believe everything you think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t believe everything you think.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe the pilot deliberately took the plane off course and put it in the ocean.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the pilot deliberately took the plane off course and put it in the ocean.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed, &quot;people were aghast that an airplane could disappear in this day and age.&quot; They still are. We are far from all-seeing, all-wise, all-powerful. Apply that thought to Climate Change too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, &#8220;people were aghast that an airplane could disappear in this day and age.&#8221; They still are. We are far from all-seeing, all-wise, all-powerful. Apply that thought to Climate Change too.</p>
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