Comments on: Richard Landes’ definitions: own-goal journalism

By: sdferr

sdferr — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 02:57:15 +0000

Victoria Coates, WSJ: Rewriting the History of Jerusalem

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:07:01 +0000

Dennis, I’d dispute your history of the impact of Christianity on tribal warrior culture (I am a medievalist), but none of the details about how Muslims claim superiority disqualifies calling their claims supersessionist.

That’s hard to support or justify, since many Russian and Viking kingdoms converted to Christianity, which moderated their excessive war making and conquering. The strange thing is, why would any warrior convert to Christianity when it stops them from getting into wars?

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:04:04 +0000

Many Christians do not subscribe to supersissionism since they believe that the Jews are still God’s people and that God still has an important role for Jews in His plans for the future.

That’s rather complicated. Unless Christians believe in following Jewish rabbinical traditions, laws, the Torah additions, and the mitzvoh, plus various other Jewish dietary laws, Christianity is already “superseding” the human laws made after the law of Moses.

It was Moses that said that God would bring another prophet to the Jews, raised up from their own ranks, to continue the work.

The State of Israel is already performing God’s test on the wayward disaspora.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sun, 09 Oct 2016 11:59:36 +0000

huxley Says:
October 7th, 2016 at 7:22 pm
By now it’s a trite thought, but it does seem the liberal wing of the West long ago stopped believing in nations and national interests, and instead believe in an inevitable post-national world. They just presume that is where we are going and help it along any way they can.

Often repeated, but still true.

There are many people in Christendom, working on the Kingdom of God. But their methods are very different from the Left’s Utopia on Earth, which is more like a hell forged and crafted under Lucifer. A post national world under the control of Lucifer, when people think of totalitarianism, it’s pretty close to that.

By: sdferr

sdferr — Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:57:52 +0000

We could say FOAF, “to sit on top of” in that sense — which as it so happens aptly describes the physical location of al-Haram ash-Sharif, and more particularly the Dome of the Rock which is inscribed inside and out with declarations of supremacy galore. Al-Malik knew well how to make a message stick.

By: FOAF

FOAF — Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:39:20 +0000

You are right, Ann. To get pedantic for a moment – I thought it was related to the word “cede”, i. e. give up something. But the Latin root word is “sedere”, to sit. So it would literally translate to “sit over” which corresponds to the meaning of the word to replace or supplant.

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 08 Oct 2016 16:05:25 +0000

Related to Landes’s post:

RAND: The Russian “Firehose of Falsehood” Propaganda Model:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html

At War on the Rocks, Alex Weisiger and Keren Yarhi-Milo on “What American Credibility Myth? How and Why Reputation Matters”:
http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/what-american-credibility-myth-how-and-why-reputation-matters/

By: huxley

huxley — Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:22:26 +0000

By now it’s a trite thought, but it does seem the liberal wing of the West long ago stopped believing in nations and national interests, and instead believe in an inevitable post-national world. They just presume that is where we are going and help it along any way they can.

Rarely do they articulate this position. They just ridicule or muscle anyone or any group which gets in the way. Those that do get in the way, for instance Americans who uphold patriotic sentiments or the Constitution, are the enemy.

Radical Islam is effectively an ally to liberals, even though the conflicts between the two are real. But for now both are content working together to defeat conservatives, conservative Christians, and Israel.

Anyway I said that to criticize “own-goal journalism.” Such journalists aren’t scoring goals against their real side, which I called post-national earler and others seem to be calling globalist today.

By: Nick

Nick — Fri, 07 Oct 2016 22:30:11 +0000

The term “own-goal journalism” seems clunky. It’s not intuitively apparent what it means. “Fifth column” has the same meaning, and it’s commonly recognized (although I have no idea as to its origins offhand).

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Fri, 07 Oct 2016 21:34:05 +0000

Speaking of own goals, in the conventional sense:
Ten years ago, NBC sent a crew to a NASCAR event in the south. There were one man and two women supposedly of Middle Eastern appearance. They were dressed in arabic garb.
They were followed by a camera crew.
The point was to catch these inbred, gap-toothed dull normals who think a dandy afternoon is to watch hillbillies making left turns and get them to do something racist and islamophobic. Nothing happened.
NBC had bet the cost of the expedition on the certainty they’d have delicious footage for Dateline. They were so certain, they didn’t even have a backup plan to fake it, as they did when they blew up GM pickup trucks which wouldn’t blow up by themselves.
The word got out. The NASCAR community, which is quite large, and those sympathizing with them, discovered what the panjandrums of NBC–and likely the entire Chattering Class–thought of them.
This sneering/smearing has gone on so long, so viciously, and with the game rigged so that defense is impossible. Saying you’re not a racist proves you’re a racist. Then, of course, there are the bitter clingers, and, later, the deplorables.
IMO, Trump didn’t have to have any policies besides Build a Wall to win when he explicitly, implicitly, or even accidentally looked as if he were breaking the politically-correct system. Scores of millions liked that and it’s, imo, one reason more conventional candidates failed.
Somebody said they hoped he’d win. Because, if he loses, you really won’t like who’s next.
Legal gun owners supposedly own two hundred millon guns and twelve trillion rounds of ammo.
See the Battle of Athens, and the Battle of Sugar Point.
It wasn’t necessary to smear the flyover country folks.
But people of absolutely no distinction, talent, or accomplishment made themselves feel good by slagging others who, due to political correctness’ rigging the discussion, were not in a position to defend themselves. But they were in a position to notice it and resent it.