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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Perhaps some voted for him because of them, and perhaps they don’t see them as weaknesses. They may percevie them as his strength in defying political correctness. But although I’m hardly a fan of political correctness, and I am all for defying political correctness, I’m also for choosing your battles and being smart about your vulnerabilities when you do so.&lt;/b&gt;

A lot of the Alt Right movement shares many things in common with Pick up Artist communities. Even VoxDay has another blog called &quot;Alpha Game&quot; something or other. 

The short background brief on this, because I don&#039;t want to talk about this every time, is that a couple of forum/computer programmer geeks in a niche group (similar to Zucker and Bill Gates) got together and reverse engineered human social mating rituals in order for them to date girls and get more sex. This dealt with shy geek personalities or shy non geek personalities, and eventually they came up with a &quot;winning formula&quot; which were like pick up lines, except you read them like a dialogue or computer code list. This spread on forums, people asked for books and seminars, and the &quot;founders&quot; so to speak began working on it. I heard about this from some independent investigative journalist that went deep in with the niche group to learn what they had. Wrote a book about it and I read it. That became the sub culture called PUA or Pick up Artists, which later morphed to just &quot;game&quot; as in the game theory, which ranks women based on a numerical score listing and ranks men based upon some pseudo wolf pack hierarchy. Used to be there was only two ranks recognized, the Alpha and the Beta. Now there&#039;s Gamma and Omega and a bunch of others.

It&#039;s part of the same research into epigenetics by white nationalists, probably. Although different people, different goals.

Part of the reason why women and men are damaged is because of porn culture. They have to resort to &quot;reverse engineering&quot; their own society&#039;s mating rituals because something got &quot;broken&quot;. The Left was the cause of it but Hollywood and porn producers make a lot of money off of breaking cultures too.

The comments about women appeal to certain people who sympathize with these certain sub cultures, for various reasons. It&#039;s not because they want to fight political correctness. It&#039;s because by watching rape porn and re configuring their mating rituals based on power hierarchies, not love, those humans have been broken. It&#039;s very difficult to track these demographics across the net, because of anonymity. Without a cookie survey popping up in their face asking these questions, one would never be capable of finding the dots, yet alone connecting them. But I&#039;ve been finding data points for more than a decade now, on these topics. And I&#039;ve seen a couple of potential causalities.

For a more mainstream pov, read Reynold&#039;s wife&#039;s account of why men have rebelled. Also called the Men&#039;s Rights movement. One could see the bitterness there, probably first of all, because once people discover they aren&#039;t &quot;alone&quot; in their brokeness, they start speaking out, like Alcoholics Anonymous.

The Vista killer in the US, is another case example, what with his manifesto. Game or Alpha Game was originally designed to let geeks and shy males who never learned how to deal with women romantically or who was never taught by proper authorities (except Hollywood culture and porn), on how to improve themselves in the mating ritual game. The Vista Killer is a good example of how noble or innocent obsession with girls, combined with Leftist Hollywood culture, can turn very toxic and very suicidal, very fast. Combine that with the Power Politics and Dominion of a White Nationalist branding in the USA, and things will fall apart faster than people can imagine.

People know how Arab and Islamic children are crazy, sadistic, and messed up. Ever wonder how they got that way? Mostly from their parents and environment.

The Left uses porn and the harder more specialized sorts, as a second kind of brain washing method.

For the Tea Party, their enemies wanted a way to degrade the TP. For the Alt Right, it&#039;s probably just bitterness and angry against feminists and females, turning itself into a palace guard defense of Trum, as Trum is their surrogate for attacking high to mid status females like Fox News reporters. Most Presidents use other people as surrogates, but to many on the Alt Right&#039;s most bitter wings, Trum is their surrogate instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Perhaps some voted for him because of them, and perhaps they don’t see them as weaknesses. They may percevie them as his strength in defying political correctness. But although I’m hardly a fan of political correctness, and I am all for defying political correctness, I’m also for choosing your battles and being smart about your vulnerabilities when you do so.</b></p>
<p>A lot of the Alt Right movement shares many things in common with Pick up Artist communities. Even VoxDay has another blog called &#8220;Alpha Game&#8221; something or other. </p>
<p>The short background brief on this, because I don&#8217;t want to talk about this every time, is that a couple of forum/computer programmer geeks in a niche group (similar to Zucker and Bill Gates) got together and reverse engineered human social mating rituals in order for them to date girls and get more sex. This dealt with shy geek personalities or shy non geek personalities, and eventually they came up with a &#8220;winning formula&#8221; which were like pick up lines, except you read them like a dialogue or computer code list. This spread on forums, people asked for books and seminars, and the &#8220;founders&#8221; so to speak began working on it. I heard about this from some independent investigative journalist that went deep in with the niche group to learn what they had. Wrote a book about it and I read it. That became the sub culture called PUA or Pick up Artists, which later morphed to just &#8220;game&#8221; as in the game theory, which ranks women based on a numerical score listing and ranks men based upon some pseudo wolf pack hierarchy. Used to be there was only two ranks recognized, the Alpha and the Beta. Now there&#8217;s Gamma and Omega and a bunch of others.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s part of the same research into epigenetics by white nationalists, probably. Although different people, different goals.</p>
<p>Part of the reason why women and men are damaged is because of porn culture. They have to resort to &#8220;reverse engineering&#8221; their own society&#8217;s mating rituals because something got &#8220;broken&#8221;. The Left was the cause of it but Hollywood and porn producers make a lot of money off of breaking cultures too.</p>
<p>The comments about women appeal to certain people who sympathize with these certain sub cultures, for various reasons. It&#8217;s not because they want to fight political correctness. It&#8217;s because by watching rape porn and re configuring their mating rituals based on power hierarchies, not love, those humans have been broken. It&#8217;s very difficult to track these demographics across the net, because of anonymity. Without a cookie survey popping up in their face asking these questions, one would never be capable of finding the dots, yet alone connecting them. But I&#8217;ve been finding data points for more than a decade now, on these topics. And I&#8217;ve seen a couple of potential causalities.</p>
<p>For a more mainstream pov, read Reynold&#8217;s wife&#8217;s account of why men have rebelled. Also called the Men&#8217;s Rights movement. One could see the bitterness there, probably first of all, because once people discover they aren&#8217;t &#8220;alone&#8221; in their brokeness, they start speaking out, like Alcoholics Anonymous.</p>
<p>The Vista killer in the US, is another case example, what with his manifesto. Game or Alpha Game was originally designed to let geeks and shy males who never learned how to deal with women romantically or who was never taught by proper authorities (except Hollywood culture and porn), on how to improve themselves in the mating ritual game. The Vista Killer is a good example of how noble or innocent obsession with girls, combined with Leftist Hollywood culture, can turn very toxic and very suicidal, very fast. Combine that with the Power Politics and Dominion of a White Nationalist branding in the USA, and things will fall apart faster than people can imagine.</p>
<p>People know how Arab and Islamic children are crazy, sadistic, and messed up. Ever wonder how they got that way? Mostly from their parents and environment.</p>
<p>The Left uses porn and the harder more specialized sorts, as a second kind of brain washing method.</p>
<p>For the Tea Party, their enemies wanted a way to degrade the TP. For the Alt Right, it&#8217;s probably just bitterness and angry against feminists and females, turning itself into a palace guard defense of Trum, as Trum is their surrogate for attacking high to mid status females like Fox News reporters. Most Presidents use other people as surrogates, but to many on the Alt Right&#8217;s most bitter wings, Trum is their surrogate instead.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/01/trump-and-machado-its-not-about-the-women/#comment-1729397</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 23:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Getting your underwear twisted up arguing about how djt might be better than hrc is time better spent on other more realistic endeavors.&lt;/b&gt;

Ever hear of Aquaponics, Parker?

That is probably a more useful endeavor for many of our fellow Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Getting your underwear twisted up arguing about how djt might be better than hrc is time better spent on other more realistic endeavors.</b></p>
<p>Ever hear of Aquaponics, Parker?</p>
<p>That is probably a more useful endeavor for many of our fellow Americans.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/10/01/trump-and-machado-its-not-about-the-women/#comment-1729390</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 23:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As for me, it&#039;s always nice watching humans break. Since they break so easily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for me, it&#8217;s always nice watching humans break. Since they break so easily.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Tom Says: 
October 3rd, 2016 at 1:10 am
Eric, BTDTBTTS, excuse my language, but fuck it! I I don’t give a shit any more. I’ve done my part, it’s time for someone else to step up.&lt;/b&gt;

Tom is starting to sound like me back in 2007, except for the fact that I only sounded like that in my head, I didn&#039;t actually let many people online see the inner thoughts. The problem with having a civilized mask you wear all the time trying to appear in control of yourself, is that sooner or later people will find out what&#039;s really going on beneath the mask. Then the mask will be pointless as an illusion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Tom Says:<br />
October 3rd, 2016 at 1:10 am<br />
Eric, BTDTBTTS, excuse my language, but fuck it! I I don’t give a shit any more. I’ve done my part, it’s time for someone else to step up.</b></p>
<p>Tom is starting to sound like me back in 2007, except for the fact that I only sounded like that in my head, I didn&#8217;t actually let many people online see the inner thoughts. The problem with having a civilized mask you wear all the time trying to appear in control of yourself, is that sooner or later people will find out what&#8217;s really going on beneath the mask. Then the mask will be pointless as an illusion.</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 10:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These elections are not about Trump or even Hillary, it is about Jacksonian revolution in progress. And as Richard Fernandez wrote, &quot;After all revolutions are by definition acts of momentary insanity defined by a recklessness,  rudeness and willful assertion that is hard to justify except on the grounds that it sometimes -- but not always -- works.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These elections are not about Trump or even Hillary, it is about Jacksonian revolution in progress. And as Richard Fernandez wrote, &#8220;After all revolutions are by definition acts of momentary insanity defined by a recklessness,  rudeness and willful assertion that is hard to justify except on the grounds that it sometimes &#8212; but not always &#8212; works.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 10:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hillary is absolutely amoral, criminal, lying and deceptive bitch. What else one needs to reject her by any means available?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary is absolutely amoral, criminal, lying and deceptive bitch. What else one needs to reject her by any means available?</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 05:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric, BTDTBTTS, excuse my language, but fuck it! I I don&#039;t give a shit any more. I&#039;ve done my part, it&#039;s time for someone else to step up.

You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars
I&#039;ve been living on the edge so long
Where the winds of limbo roar
And I&#039;m young enough to look at
And far too old to see
All the scars are on the inside
I&#039;m not sure that there&#039;s anything left to me

You ask me why I&#039;m weary, why I can&#039;t speak to you
You blame me for my silence say It&#039;s time I changed and grew
But the war&#039;s still going on, dear, and there&#039;s no end that I know
And I can&#039;t say if we&#039;re ever...
I can&#039;t say if were ever gonna be free

You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars
My energy&#039;s spent at last
And my armor is destroyed
I have used up all my weapons and I&#039;m helpless and bereaved
Wounds are all I&#039;m made of
Did I hear you say that this is victory?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, BTDTBTTS, excuse my language, but fuck it! I I don&#8217;t give a shit any more. I&#8217;ve done my part, it&#8217;s time for someone else to step up.</p>
<p>You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars<br />
I&#8217;ve been living on the edge so long<br />
Where the winds of limbo roar<br />
And I&#8217;m young enough to look at<br />
And far too old to see<br />
All the scars are on the inside<br />
I&#8217;m not sure that there&#8217;s anything left to me</p>
<p>You ask me why I&#8217;m weary, why I can&#8217;t speak to you<br />
You blame me for my silence say It&#8217;s time I changed and grew<br />
But the war&#8217;s still going on, dear, and there&#8217;s no end that I know<br />
And I can&#8217;t say if we&#8217;re ever&#8230;<br />
I can&#8217;t say if were ever gonna be free</p>
<p>You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars<br />
My energy&#8217;s spent at last<br />
And my armor is destroyed<br />
I have used up all my weapons and I&#8217;m helpless and bereaved<br />
Wounds are all I&#8217;m made of<br />
Did I hear you say that this is victory?</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 01:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom:
&quot;I think the country is lost to liberals, and liberal theology. I think we’re doomed. I believe this is the point of no return.&quot;

Become activist, develop your team, and compete for real full social spectrum in the arena, while understanding the game is iterative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:<br />
&#8220;I think the country is lost to liberals, and liberal theology. I think we’re doomed. I believe this is the point of no return.&#8221;</p>
<p>Become activist, develop your team, and compete for real full social spectrum in the arena, while understanding the game is iterative.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Earnest Trump advocates in the aftermath of yet another eruption of Trump&#039;s self-in-selfhonesty tend to remind one of a cat chasing the reflection of a laser-pointer operated by a quasi-malevolent owner. Inseparably hilarious and sad; both at once. 

Only, between the cat and the supporters, and, ruing the vast consequences to every polity on earth does distinctly separate the two phenomena: the former, a brief and circumscribed bit of jocularity; the latter the field of human tragedy itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earnest Trump advocates in the aftermath of yet another eruption of Trump&#8217;s self-in-selfhonesty tend to remind one of a cat chasing the reflection of a laser-pointer operated by a quasi-malevolent owner. Inseparably hilarious and sad; both at once. </p>
<p>Only, between the cat and the supporters, and, ruing the vast consequences to every polity on earth does distinctly separate the two phenomena: the former, a brief and circumscribed bit of jocularity; the latter the field of human tragedy itself.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2016 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the record, the &quot;Supreme Court nomination&quot; argument is the only one that I find the least bit compelling, but it&#039;s not enough for me. There are so many other things about Trump that I find repellent that there just isn&#039;t enough lipstick on the planet to make me kiss that pig.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the &#8220;Supreme Court nomination&#8221; argument is the only one that I find the least bit compelling, but it&#8217;s not enough for me. There are so many other things about Trump that I find repellent that there just isn&#8217;t enough lipstick on the planet to make me kiss that pig.</p>
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