And what is culture downstream from? That is the key.

The answer is 1. Metaphysics, the nature of reality, 2. Epistemology, the study of what constitutes knowledge, and 3. Ethics, what is the good?

As for his politics, it’s probably more like Glenn Reynolds. The Iraq war did more than just come up with Counter Insurgency that reformed the US military’s outdated fear of Vietnam. It also slightly changed the Republican GOP coalition.

Foreign policy hawks and libertarian pro liberty pushers, became more transparent as allies, than merely “liberal social policies or free economies”.

There was that comment from the 9/11 Flight 93 Sep 8 thread. Guy from Boston wrote something about “get over it” you people’s disgust at Trum’s character.

Paul in Boston Says:
September 7th, 2016 at 5:55 pm

It’s generally a rejection that people have a valid reason or right to dislike or refuse to Trum based on Trum’s New York “values”. What I like to call a 70 year old Democrat.

HRC is in a similar boat, also being in New York, only because she wanted that seat though.

It saddens me that this campaign and election cycle has driven a wedge into the Republican Party and especially between conservatives. It used to be a pleasure to come to Neo’s place and read informative conservative opinion about issues that we are all interested in.-JJ

For me it is almost the opposite. Coming to read the news or blogs from 2007-2012 was painful beyond belief for me. Why? Because people went along to get along with the Hussein Regime, with the Leftist alliance, as the country was destroyed. They should have hated every Leftist and even every Democrat, every commenter that came here spouting Leftist propaganda nd SJW rhetoric. They should have, but didn’t.

So after 2013, when people’s frustrations came to a hot peak due to the collapse of the Tea Party under IRS strategic bombardment and sabotage, then people became angry and full of hate. Which is necessary, but unfortunately for humans, they are often incapable of controlling their emotions.

So now those emotions control conservatives and Republicans, and as a result some of them join the Alt Right and also as a result some of them join the Never Trump camp. All because of emotions, while telling themselves it is because of “hard thinking”.

Humans don’t really “think” about much of anything, especially for the double think capable high IQ sorts.

The humans, the 3%, capable of thinking over their own emotions, are rare. And which is why I use my time to read what they write and also reply. Those who are controlled by their emotions, are little more useful than zombies to me.

So yes, the conflict this year and before, may be draining on folks. But to me, it is far better than the “Get Along, to Go Along” attitude people had about the Hussein Regime before. So maybe it was a few years too late. Oh well. Can’t choose miracles.

At least if humans are going to fall off a cliff on this train called America, they should be clearly and rationally aware of what is happening to them. At least they can pay Flight 93 that much homage and honor, at least.

Paul Mirengoff concludes:

Shouldn’t the neo-conservatives/Reagan interventionists who plan to vote for Hillary Clinton rethink their stance?

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. . . Boteach’s piece [at http://observer.com/2016/02/hillarys-email-trail-of-troubling-anti-israel-conversations/%5Dis built on quotations from emails. Unless he’s inventing the content, the only bias I detect is Boteach’s strong sense that the ideas [about shaming Israelis and encouraging Palestinian protests] presented to Clinton by her trusted advisers were outrageous. I share that bias.

We can be confident that Trump won’t receive advice like this from [son-in-law Jared] Kushner, an Orthodox Jew with strong ties to Israel, and I doubt he’ll receive, much less entertain it from any other trusted adviser.

On a side note — the Conventional wsdom of “reluctant” Trump supporters has shifted over time from “yes, almost any of the other Repunlican candidates would do better against Hillary than Trump but he’s what we got” to “none of them could possibly have beaten her and Trump’s the best candidate we could have gotten”. Because a dishonorable candidate is the only kind that can win any more

And this is what makes me think Trump supporters will never hold him accountable if he screws them. They’re already revising history and the election isn’t even over.

Soon, it’ll be “America has always supported Trump. Dear Leader always has the People in his heart.”

Right. At this point, we can probably expect that the GOP and all those in the “conservative” media, who had, rather early on, fallen in line behind trump, have since lost any credibility regarding representing any set of consistent values whatsoever, other than “WINNING!!!”.
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“the Conventional wisdom of “reluctant” Trump supporters has shifted over time … to “none of (the other GOP candidates) could possibly have beaten her … Because a dishonorable candidate is the only kind that can win anymore “

Have noticed a shift of sorts along these lines. It does fit with the notion that there is no longer a “Constitutional means” of righting course of this country.

I haven’t checked for sure, but I think this thread has set a neo-neocon record for comments.

There have been others in the 200+ range, though.