I used to think the number of “extremists” was extremely small and are not welcome here – would have sworn on my mother that was so. Good thing I didn’t have to.

To your point about relative sizes, nowadays, it is hard to tell just how big those groups are, as too many are too comfortable with trump playing to that crowd.

And, this is precisely the problem. Not 50%, but too d**n many are playing along, even if they are not personally in those extremist groups.

We can deflect the discussion to point to the Commies and such, but that doesn’t negate the issue.

Thus, every time this issue gets media attention, it drives home the point about what trump is doing.

Has Hillary claimed our side is “supporting” White Supremacists? I thought she accused Trump of being supported by them.

And you ignored my contention about the relative magnitude of the support of a small group of extremists roundly condemned by Republicans vs the huge underpinnings of an anti-democratic, genocidal totalitarian ideology like Marxism which is covertly and often overtly embraced by huge swaths of the so-called Democrat Party. That’s carrying the left’s false moral equivalency to the realms of the absurd.

Will the election really get interesting then?

A retort that is something like “Yeah, well you guys have a bunch of Communists!”, isn’t really a winning argument to the claim “our” side is supporting Supremacists.

It is one thing to not personally “accept” the scorn and blame that the left falsely doles out. It is quite another to stand by when one has folks who are saying and doing things very different from one’s principles on one’s behalf – i.e. a party leader who is courting Supremacists.

False premise.

It wasn’t something that had to be “accepted” because “our” leadership wasn’t going out of their way to court those folks. The left had always tried to “pin” that characterization on “us”.

Now that “we” have one who does, “we” get tainted by association, as, evidently, “we” think that is acceptable from “our” leader.

The sad part is that any legitimate concerns get lost in all this bruhaha.

Make no mistake, while it emboldens trump’s “base”, other voters understard clinton is exaggerating, there is a truth that they see, and as the controversy continues, it just gets reinforced. It is the same game that trump has been playing.

Regarding Matt_SE

Who are you talking to? Imaginary friends? 🙂

White supremacism is deplorable because it is based on the idea of genetic superiority. There are loads of murderers who were white, both individuals and NATIONS in the history of the world; there is nothing inherently superior about being white.

There are IDEAS that are superior, but those aren’t tied to genetics. You also didn’t argue for the superiority of ideas, otherwise you wouldn’t need to include the word “white.”

Except that in all of history, is it just a coincidence that all the people responsible for Western Civilization and its culture are those of pallor? It might not be strictly due to the lack of melanin, but more likely the development of Judeo-Christian moral and cultural values, and the preceding Greek and Roman civilizations, and they were coincidentally all whites too. It may even have started with the invention of farming in Sumeria, which allowed a small but significant % of the population to be freed from the labor intensive business of survival. Oh, wait, they were light-skinned too. Gosh, I’m beginning to see a pattern here!

Again, my point is not to claim superiority based on skin color, but we as whites have no reason to hang our heads in shame and blame ourselves as the supposed oppressors and exploiters of every other color that the Marxists brand us as.

I think the wisdom of Robert Heinlein is appropriate:
“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded – here and there, now and then – are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as “bad luck.”

Relative to the world’s population, whites are being relegated to the role of that tiny minority by Marxism. If we allow that to happen, I believe the rest of the planet is in for a very long run of bad luck.

This post by neo is one of the best I have seen. She hit the mark and offered great detail and clarity. Very well done.