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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1664021</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reluctant voters can go to the polls with their principles and integrity intact... AND PUBLIC by wearing The American NosePin Salute from cafepress.com/nosepinamerica]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reluctant voters can go to the polls with their principles and integrity intact&#8230; AND PUBLIC by wearing The American NosePin Salute from cafepress.com/nosepinamerica</p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1652582</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Maq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2016 02:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Article II
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, [Section 3] … he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - DNW

Applies to obama, and many would argue GWB at the time.

Given what we&#039;ve seen from both trump and clinton, it will likely apply to them both too.

I&#039;m not claiming Johnson is perfect - he is far from it.  But, its not entirely clear how different his position on illegal immigrants is from some of what we&#039;ve been hearing from trump, though admittedly trump is all over the map on that.  That&#039;s where trump&#039;s mutability bites one in the a**.

And that is aside from all the other downside risks that come with trump.

Johnson will at least seek balanced budget, and a reduced size and scope of the federal government - THAT is the right direction we need head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Article II<br />
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, [Section 3] … he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”&#8221;</em> &#8211; DNW</p>
<p>Applies to obama, and many would argue GWB at the time.</p>
<p>Given what we&#8217;ve seen from both trump and clinton, it will likely apply to them both too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not claiming Johnson is perfect &#8211; he is far from it.  But, its not entirely clear how different his position on illegal immigrants is from some of what we&#8217;ve been hearing from trump, though admittedly trump is all over the map on that.  That&#8217;s where trump&#8217;s mutability bites one in the a**.</p>
<p>And that is aside from all the other downside risks that come with trump.</p>
<p>Johnson will at least seek balanced budget, and a reduced size and scope of the federal government &#8211; THAT is the right direction we need head.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1652286</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2016 00:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW

The same &quot;argument&quot; can be applied to Trump (illegal orders to military, first amendment and the press, just for starters), and to the Shrew Queen.  You can do better./s]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW</p>
<p>The same &#8220;argument&#8221; can be applied to Trump (illegal orders to military, first amendment and the press, just for starters), and to the Shrew Queen.  You can do better./s</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1651008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;1911. 8 U.S.C. 1325 -- Unlawful Entry, Failure To Depart, Fleeing Immigration Checkpoints, Marriage Fraud, Commercial Enterprise Fraud&quot;


Maybe Gary Johnson&#039;s sensibilities would be salved if illegal aliens were termed &quot;unlawful entrants&quot; instead. 

Advocates for criminals could probably could apply that as a strategic euphemism in any number of criminal classifications; including one particularly heinous subset of interpersonal assaults.

Regardless as to whether that makes Johnson feel better or not, he still has the Presidential disqualification problem though: in that he cannot take, or be trusted to honorably take the oath of office ...

&quot;I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.&quot; 

... which requires that he faithfully execute the office, which means he swears,  &quot; … he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”

Gary Johnson, the supposedly more honorable and presumably more knowledgeable alternative to Trump, cannot according to statements he has himself made, be trusted to faithfully execute the office of they President, and to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1911. 8 U.S.C. 1325 &#8212; Unlawful Entry, Failure To Depart, Fleeing Immigration Checkpoints, Marriage Fraud, Commercial Enterprise Fraud&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe Gary Johnson&#8217;s sensibilities would be salved if illegal aliens were termed &#8220;unlawful entrants&#8221; instead. </p>
<p>Advocates for criminals could probably could apply that as a strategic euphemism in any number of criminal classifications; including one particularly heinous subset of interpersonal assaults.</p>
<p>Regardless as to whether that makes Johnson feel better or not, he still has the Presidential disqualification problem though: in that he cannot take, or be trusted to honorably take the oath of office &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8230; which requires that he faithfully execute the office, which means he swears,  &#8221; … he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”</p>
<p>Gary Johnson, the supposedly more honorable and presumably more knowledgeable alternative to Trump, cannot according to statements he has himself made, be trusted to faithfully execute the office of they President, and to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1650952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;So we have the mutable one who is all over the map and has a temperament problem to boot. In the other corner we have a lying crook.

Johnson, at least, doesn’t come with all that baggage ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Article II
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and,  [Section 3] &lt;b&gt;... he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed&quot;&lt;/b&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guess that eliminates Johnson as a matter of principle guided by the rule of law , doesn&#039;t it.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;So we have the mutable one who is all over the map and has a temperament problem to boot. In the other corner we have a lying crook.</p>
<p>Johnson, at least, doesn’t come with all that baggage &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Article II<br />
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and,  [Section 3] <b>&#8230; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed&#8221;</b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs" rel="nofollow">Guess that eliminates Johnson as a matter of principle guided by the rule of law , doesn&#8217;t it.</a></p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1650631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Maq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@FOAF - I&#039;ll repeat what I have said elsewhere....

If you and many others continue to think your choice is only binary, then &quot;SURPRISE!!!&quot;, that is what it will be.  

It is self-fulfilling.

There is an alternative, but only if you break out of the binary paradigm.  

You won&#039;t because you need to see some movement elsewhere towards an alternative.  IOW, you are waiting on someone else to deliver to you a &quot;viable&quot; alternative.  

You won&#039;t budge first, so you mock any alternative to keep the herd of like minded folks in place.

If nobody budges, waiting for everyone else to make the move, then nobody moves.

That is all assuming you are a &quot;reluctant&quot; trump supporter.

If you are NOT reluctant, then you probably don&#039;t see the point about Freddie and Hannibal, and why anyone would be opposed to trump as well as clinton.  

Perhaps, there is even no limit in opposing clinton.  

If so, we disagree about a LOT more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FOAF &#8211; I&#8217;ll repeat what I have said elsewhere&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you and many others continue to think your choice is only binary, then &#8220;SURPRISE!!!&#8221;, that is what it will be.  </p>
<p>It is self-fulfilling.</p>
<p>There is an alternative, but only if you break out of the binary paradigm.  </p>
<p>You won&#8217;t because you need to see some movement elsewhere towards an alternative.  IOW, you are waiting on someone else to deliver to you a &#8220;viable&#8221; alternative.  </p>
<p>You won&#8217;t budge first, so you mock any alternative to keep the herd of like minded folks in place.</p>
<p>If nobody budges, waiting for everyone else to make the move, then nobody moves.</p>
<p>That is all assuming you are a &#8220;reluctant&#8221; trump supporter.</p>
<p>If you are NOT reluctant, then you probably don&#8217;t see the point about Freddie and Hannibal, and why anyone would be opposed to trump as well as clinton.  </p>
<p>Perhaps, there is even no limit in opposing clinton.  </p>
<p>If so, we disagree about a LOT more.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1650482</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The country has as much a chance with HRC and DJT; crook  and con man, or do I repeat myself?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country has as much a chance with HRC and DJT; crook  and con man, or do I repeat myself?</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOAF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Johnson is MUCH more likely to live within the bounds of office&quot;

He&#039;s got about much chance as Freddie and Hannibal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Johnson is MUCH more likely to live within the bounds of office&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got about much chance as Freddie and Hannibal.</p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1647965</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Maq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, add that if we maintain GOP dominant Congress, with downticket votes, Johnson is MUCH more likely to live within the bounds of office.  Something neither of the other two seem likely to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, add that if we maintain GOP dominant Congress, with downticket votes, Johnson is MUCH more likely to live within the bounds of office.  Something neither of the other two seem likely to.</p>
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		By: Big Maq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/03/convincing-reluctant-trump-supporters-to-vote-for-him/#comment-1647956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Maq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Finally, another potential libertarian supporter who actually did his due diligence, and found out just what Johnson was selling.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - DNW

So we have the mutable one who is all over the map and has a temperament problem to boot.  In the other corner we have a lying crook.

Johnson, at least, doesn&#039;t come with all that baggage, and has been a Governor for two terms, running essentially as a moderate, small government Republican.  

Yes, I cannot agree with his entire platform, but considering the alternative, he&#039;s MUCH more likely to move the government in the one direction we all need it to - smaller.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Finally, another potential libertarian supporter who actually did his due diligence, and found out just what Johnson was selling.&#8221;</em> &#8211; DNW</p>
<p>So we have the mutable one who is all over the map and has a temperament problem to boot.  In the other corner we have a lying crook.</p>
<p>Johnson, at least, doesn&#8217;t come with all that baggage, and has been a Governor for two terms, running essentially as a moderate, small government Republican.  </p>
<p>Yes, I cannot agree with his entire platform, but considering the alternative, he&#8217;s MUCH more likely to move the government in the one direction we all need it to &#8211; smaller.</p>
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