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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1636415</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The very essence of conspiracy theories is that those who believe are the ones who can’t “fix” it&lt;/b&gt;

A lot of humans believing on faith alone is due to their lack of competence, knowledge, and wisdom. If a person who actually demolitioned the World Trader Towers to make it fall or another equivalent building or skyscraper, said that 9/11 was an inside demolition job, then that might be believable, absent any evidence. Person who thinks fire doesn&#039;t melt steel, who says 9/11 is an inside job, different issue.

As for Clinton, most people by now can delete their hard drives, wipe and reformat using third party programs, if they have sufficient warning. They are little different from Clinton&#039;s modus operandi, since her intent was to make sure the information was gleaned and then laundered, like money is laundered, so she could sell it as tips and tricks to America&#039;s &quot;buddies&quot; like Iran, China, Russia.

But for other conspiracies, people are incompetent to judge them because they they lack the knowledge to reproduce the setup. Not that they lack the power to do so, but that they lack the knowledge to do so.

My view of human competence and the limits of human knowledge is not so optimistic I think every day masses can figure out, based on what the MSewerM fed them, what large groups of elite New World Order Rockefeller types or Leftist alliance Alinsky devils, are capable of, let alone what they are actually up to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The very essence of conspiracy theories is that those who believe are the ones who can’t “fix” it</b></p>
<p>A lot of humans believing on faith alone is due to their lack of competence, knowledge, and wisdom. If a person who actually demolitioned the World Trader Towers to make it fall or another equivalent building or skyscraper, said that 9/11 was an inside demolition job, then that might be believable, absent any evidence. Person who thinks fire doesn&#8217;t melt steel, who says 9/11 is an inside job, different issue.</p>
<p>As for Clinton, most people by now can delete their hard drives, wipe and reformat using third party programs, if they have sufficient warning. They are little different from Clinton&#8217;s modus operandi, since her intent was to make sure the information was gleaned and then laundered, like money is laundered, so she could sell it as tips and tricks to America&#8217;s &#8220;buddies&#8221; like Iran, China, Russia.</p>
<p>But for other conspiracies, people are incompetent to judge them because they they lack the knowledge to reproduce the setup. Not that they lack the power to do so, but that they lack the knowledge to do so.</p>
<p>My view of human competence and the limits of human knowledge is not so optimistic I think every day masses can figure out, based on what the MSewerM fed them, what large groups of elite New World Order Rockefeller types or Leftist alliance Alinsky devils, are capable of, let alone what they are actually up to.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1634836</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 04:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon Jewett:

I have no idea what you&#039;re talking about. If I ever said anything of the sort, give me the link.  

I have said---and continue to say---that she&#039;s not stupid.  She&#039;s smart.  That&#039;s a far far cry from saying she&#039;s the smartest candidate.  I&#039;ve also said, by the way (over the years) that George Bush was smart, Obama is smart, and even that Donald Trump is smart (or at least not stupid).  

The smartest candidate of all this year was Ted Cruz, no contest whatsoever. He is brilliant.  Fiorina also is whip-smart.  I think Rubio and Christie are both very smart.  Those are the real standouts for me.  

Perhaps you misremembered what I wrote in &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/10/12/hillary-is-still-way-ahead-in-the-democratic-race/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; about Hillary.  Let me refresh you memory:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Although Clinton is very different in personality from Barack Obama (or at least, presentation of personality, which is mostly what the public sees), she excites/inspires the same sort of devotion in many of her supporters, to wit: she could eat a puppy raw on the steps of the White House, and they would call her a gourmet...

...And for most if not all of those years [in the public eye] she has been hyped as many things, but the main one is “smart.” Actually, “brilliant.” Like Obama. We don’t have to consider whether she (or he) is actually all that head-and-shoulders-above-the-rest smart. What matters is that it is what we’ve been told for umpteen million years, and a great many Democrats believe it’s absolutely true. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a hype, a rep, what we&#039;ve been &lt;i&gt;told&lt;/i&gt; she is, what many Democrats &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; she is.  Not what &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon Jewett:</p>
<p>I have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about. If I ever said anything of the sort, give me the link.  </p>
<p>I have said&#8212;and continue to say&#8212;that she&#8217;s not stupid.  She&#8217;s smart.  That&#8217;s a far far cry from saying she&#8217;s the smartest candidate.  I&#8217;ve also said, by the way (over the years) that George Bush was smart, Obama is smart, and even that Donald Trump is smart (or at least not stupid).  </p>
<p>The smartest candidate of all this year was Ted Cruz, no contest whatsoever. He is brilliant.  Fiorina also is whip-smart.  I think Rubio and Christie are both very smart.  Those are the real standouts for me.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you misremembered what I wrote in <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/10/12/hillary-is-still-way-ahead-in-the-democratic-race/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> about Hillary.  Let me refresh you memory:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although Clinton is very different in personality from Barack Obama (or at least, presentation of personality, which is mostly what the public sees), she excites/inspires the same sort of devotion in many of her supporters, to wit: she could eat a puppy raw on the steps of the White House, and they would call her a gourmet&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;And for most if not all of those years [in the public eye] she has been hyped as many things, but the main one is “smart.” Actually, “brilliant.” Like Obama. We don’t have to consider whether she (or he) is actually all that head-and-shoulders-above-the-rest smart. What matters is that it is what we’ve been told for umpteen million years, and a great many Democrats believe it’s absolutely true. </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a hype, a rep, what we&#8217;ve been <i>told</i> she is, what many Democrats <i>think</i> she is.  Not what <i>I</i> think.</p>
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		By: Jon Jewett		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 00:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,  Way back when, early in the Primary while there were many candidates, you said Mrs. Bubba Clinton was the smartest candidate.  Is that still your evaluation??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,  Way back when, early in the Primary while there were many candidates, you said Mrs. Bubba Clinton was the smartest candidate.  Is that still your evaluation??</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1632871</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DirtyJobsGuy Says: 
September 3rd, 2016 at 12:17 pm
You must realize that this is the pattern of all Democratic/Progressive politicians these days perhaps without the public awareness. The EPA had a huge scandal where the EPA head honcho used a Gmail with a fake name to coordinate with the Sierra club and others on crafting regulations. Lois Learner and others did the same. It happens in State governments as well. &lt;b&gt; The progressive agenda must happen outside of public review as it’s true nature is not acceptable to most of the public. &lt;/b&gt;So the whole higher levels of government did not get unduly concerned about Clintons actions as it was expected. In addition Obama was letting our erstwhile opponents (new friends?) know all the secrets there were to know so why get upset at hillary?

A question however is how a President Trump will treat protocol and procedures related to security, legal requirements and good practice. As a guy who has never worked for anyone else except his father nor has ever worked under others procedures would he willingly accept instruction?
* * *
Agree totally with your first assertion in re the Left&#039;s agenda and the way the entire government apparatus seems to be engaged in pushing it forward.
The second assertion in re Obama and Clinton is increasingly looking true. It used to be called treason: despite no formal declaration of war from this side of the world, Iran has been at war with US for decades.
On Trump&#039;s security procedures: he may not use the protocols of the government (such as they are, since they obviously don&#039;t apply to anyone with actual power and influence), but no one builds a huge commercial empire without knowing what to keep out of the hands of its rivals.
And I do not at this point see any evidence that Trump sides with any particular set of avowed American enemies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DirtyJobsGuy Says:<br />
September 3rd, 2016 at 12:17 pm<br />
You must realize that this is the pattern of all Democratic/Progressive politicians these days perhaps without the public awareness. The EPA had a huge scandal where the EPA head honcho used a Gmail with a fake name to coordinate with the Sierra club and others on crafting regulations. Lois Learner and others did the same. It happens in State governments as well. <b> The progressive agenda must happen outside of public review as it’s true nature is not acceptable to most of the public. </b>So the whole higher levels of government did not get unduly concerned about Clintons actions as it was expected. In addition Obama was letting our erstwhile opponents (new friends?) know all the secrets there were to know so why get upset at hillary?</p>
<p>A question however is how a President Trump will treat protocol and procedures related to security, legal requirements and good practice. As a guy who has never worked for anyone else except his father nor has ever worked under others procedures would he willingly accept instruction?<br />
* * *<br />
Agree totally with your first assertion in re the Left&#8217;s agenda and the way the entire government apparatus seems to be engaged in pushing it forward.<br />
The second assertion in re Obama and Clinton is increasingly looking true. It used to be called treason: despite no formal declaration of war from this side of the world, Iran has been at war with US for decades.<br />
On Trump&#8217;s security procedures: he may not use the protocols of the government (such as they are, since they obviously don&#8217;t apply to anyone with actual power and influence), but no one builds a huge commercial empire without knowing what to keep out of the hands of its rivals.<br />
And I do not at this point see any evidence that Trump sides with any particular set of avowed American enemies.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1632863</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should have set off Y&#039;s comment from my own, but if you read this far you saw it for yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should have set off Y&#8217;s comment from my own, but if you read this far you saw it for yourself.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1632859</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another good analysis by J. E. Dyer:

http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/09/03/now-mail-ate-hillarys-laptop-fbi-files/


Ymarsakar Says: 
September 3rd, 2016 at 9:56 am
A lot of people, like Bill here and other conservatives who still think the Left are full of “good intentioned misguided folks”, think conspiracies don’t happen. Any more than 5 people, and they say the word will get out and they will know about it.

Humans aren’t that wise, in fact they’re pretty easy to dupe. Even if it did get out, disinformation would ensure that few people believed it. &lt;b&gt;And the ones that do believe it, are like the ones here, powerless to do anything about it.&lt;/b&gt;

The very essence of conspiracy theories is that those who believe are the ones who can&#039;t &quot;fix&quot; it - and the essence of our fascination with espionage stories and super-heroes* is that there should be people who can.

*of the non-caped variety: &quot;Person of Interest&quot; comes to mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good analysis by J. E. Dyer:</p>
<p><a href="http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/09/03/now-mail-ate-hillarys-laptop-fbi-files/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/09/03/now-mail-ate-hillarys-laptop-fbi-files/</a></p>
<p>Ymarsakar Says:<br />
September 3rd, 2016 at 9:56 am<br />
A lot of people, like Bill here and other conservatives who still think the Left are full of “good intentioned misguided folks”, think conspiracies don’t happen. Any more than 5 people, and they say the word will get out and they will know about it.</p>
<p>Humans aren’t that wise, in fact they’re pretty easy to dupe. Even if it did get out, disinformation would ensure that few people believed it. <b>And the ones that do believe it, are like the ones here, powerless to do anything about it.</b></p>
<p>The very essence of conspiracy theories is that those who believe are the ones who can&#8217;t &#8220;fix&#8221; it &#8211; and the essence of our fascination with espionage stories and super-heroes* is that there should be people who can.</p>
<p>*of the non-caped variety: &#8220;Person of Interest&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
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		By: DirtyJobsGuy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You must realize that this is the pattern of all Democratic/Progressive politicians these days perhaps without the public awareness.  The EPA had a huge scandal where the EPA head honcho used a Gmail with a fake name to coordinate with the Sierra club and others on crafting regulations.   Lois Learner and others did the same.  It happens in State governments as well.    The progressive agenda must happen outside of public review as it&#039;s true nature is not acceptable to most of the public.  So the whole higher levels of government did not get unduly concerned about Clintons actions as it was expected.  In addition Obama was letting our erstwhile opponents (new friends?) know all the secrets there were to know so why get upset at hillary?

A question however is how a President Trump will treat protocol and procedures related to security, legal requirements and good practice.  As a guy who has never worked for anyone else except his father nor has ever worked under others procedures would he willingly accept instruction?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must realize that this is the pattern of all Democratic/Progressive politicians these days perhaps without the public awareness.  The EPA had a huge scandal where the EPA head honcho used a Gmail with a fake name to coordinate with the Sierra club and others on crafting regulations.   Lois Learner and others did the same.  It happens in State governments as well.    The progressive agenda must happen outside of public review as it&#8217;s true nature is not acceptable to most of the public.  So the whole higher levels of government did not get unduly concerned about Clintons actions as it was expected.  In addition Obama was letting our erstwhile opponents (new friends?) know all the secrets there were to know so why get upset at hillary?</p>
<p>A question however is how a President Trump will treat protocol and procedures related to security, legal requirements and good practice.  As a guy who has never worked for anyone else except his father nor has ever worked under others procedures would he willingly accept instruction?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1632565</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of people, like Bill here and other conservatives who still think the Left are full of &quot;good intentioned misguided folks&quot;, think conspiracies don&#039;t happen. Any more than 5 people, and they say the word will get out and they will know about it.

Humans aren&#039;t that wise, in fact they&#039;re pretty easy to dupe. Even if it did get out, disinformation would ensure that few people believed it. And the ones that do believe it, are like the ones here, powerless to do anything about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people, like Bill here and other conservatives who still think the Left are full of &#8220;good intentioned misguided folks&#8221;, think conspiracies don&#8217;t happen. Any more than 5 people, and they say the word will get out and they will know about it.</p>
<p>Humans aren&#8217;t that wise, in fact they&#8217;re pretty easy to dupe. Even if it did get out, disinformation would ensure that few people believed it. And the ones that do believe it, are like the ones here, powerless to do anything about it.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 13:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yancey Ward Says: 

From one rumor video, it was no less than 7 independent sources that scrubbed their records. After Clinton did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yancey Ward Says: </p>
<p>From one rumor video, it was no less than 7 independent sources that scrubbed their records. After Clinton did.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/09/02/hillary-clinton-fast-and-loose-with-security/#comment-1632557</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 13:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;And I realize that the media will let us know every thing he does.&lt;/b&gt;

Relying on the devil to tell you whether you should eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge concerning Good and Evil, isn&#039;t exactly a wise option. It&#039;s a desperate option, for people who don&#039;t know any better or who have no power in life.

No power, maybe, because they gave it all away to DC in elections.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>And I realize that the media will let us know every thing he does.</b></p>
<p>Relying on the devil to tell you whether you should eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge concerning Good and Evil, isn&#8217;t exactly a wise option. It&#8217;s a desperate option, for people who don&#8217;t know any better or who have no power in life.</p>
<p>No power, maybe, because they gave it all away to DC in elections.</p>
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