Comments on: Trump and the black vote—fun with statistics

By: Big Maq

Big Maq — Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:39:10 +0000

“Today, even those few menial/entry-level jobs left require a high school or higher diploma.” – Richard S

Well, that would put the lie to illegal aliens taking jobs.

But, you are correct that the parents would be enforcers of social norms. Nowadays, not so much.

Like an earlier discussion on education, if the parents are not pushing it with their kids (through their lives), nor expecting it, it often as not won’t happen.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:45:44 +0000

The problem is, those jobs don’t exist any more. Today, even those few menial/entry-level jobs left require a high school or higher diploma. So, even if we get these kids married, how are they going to support themselves?

What do you mean those jobs don’t exist? Harvesting the dual crops out West, construction jobs for Mexicans, exist.

If whites, nationalist or not, these days aren’t in that market, it’s probably because migrants cost less or family connections to various farms are needed before they hire.

In Japan, high school students would use their part time job to help with construction. That doesn’t mean they are lower than middle class, however. In the US, all those labor heavy, blue collar jobs haven’t so much disappeared, as gone into a black/grey market for Mexicans or migrant workers.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:42:00 +0000

I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Honest question — can you rephrase or give me some context?

You mentioned the family issue before. But families are a combination of high generation family trees. 10 grand kids, 2 grand father, sets. Not the modern 10 grandfathers, 2 grand kids set. Reverse pyramid.

So the barbarian or tribal cultures often have high birth rates, although that doesn’t necessarily mean they have a good family structure that promotes productive citizens.

So if you look at various church communities in the US, some have abnormally higher birth rates, as well as abnormally higher than average family stability. Without being migrants, Mexicans, or Muslims.

But there are also church communities that are not so. If you look into that, you should find the answer to why first world countries are destroying themselves on families, because this controls for the welfare issue. As most of them aren’t on welfare.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:57:35 +0000

WRT “To Kill a Mockingbird”. The same year the movie “Sergeant Rutledge” starring Woody Strode was released.
Same theme set in the Indian-fighting genre.
Fabulous review of the movie on Amazon. Can’t say enough about it.
Anyway, two releases on the exact, pretty much, theme.
Made a difference, I suspect.

By: Richard Saunders

Richard Saunders — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:30:44 +0000

Neo – that’s the way it was in my old neighborhood, too. One or two girls every couple of years would get pregnant and drop out of high school. The girl’s father would grab her by the arm, the boy’s father would grab him, by the ear, off they would march to our parish church, and they would be married. The boy would get a job, as a gas pump jockey, construction laborer, sweeper in a factory, or helper on a truck.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:29:52 +0000

Sharon W: Please see this.

By: Sharon W

Sharon W — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:12:53 +0000

I went to high school in the 70’s and there was no shunning for the girls that went “away”, but they were few and far between, because there was a strong aversion to “loose” girls (called “sluts” when being discussed in the cliques). I grew up in Park Ridge, IL (all-white). When my brother went to college in Whitewater, WI and brought home a fellow student (black) and they attended a football game together at Maine South (yes–Hillary’s home town and alma mater), he was the only black person I ever saw at a school event. He was from Milwaukee and in conversation w/him, I was surprised to learn that lots of girls in high school, “went” away or had the baby. That really amazed me.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:05:41 +0000

Ymarsakar: “Bill, you might want to check various different churches and see if their family and children standards are higher or lower than average.”

I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Honest question – can you rephrase or give me some context?

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:39:09 +0000

huxley:

I went to high school in the 60s and I don’t remember any such shunning of the girls who went “away.”

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:37:08 +0000

expat:

I agree that it was more commonly people who’d been dating for a while. But not always, by any means.