The old GOP is the stupid stupid party. The New GOP under Trum, Trumbart, the Alternative Right, and other band wagon followers for political power, will be something entirely unexpected by patriots, conservatives, and American voters.

The GOP doesn’t serve Jesus or God, in a covenant. They serve secular power, which is Lucifer’s domain.

Abdicating your free will and moral agency, may feel good, but it’s merely promoting the power of Satan on this earth. Btw, I’m sure Hussein’s pastor, Rev Jackson and Sharpton, also pray. But they aren’t praying to Jesus or the Christian God.

Supporting an earth bound organization that is not obedient to God in a covenant, what is the point of that?

Christianity has been shattered and is a mere shadow of its former self in 1st AD. No wonder people’s faith are so weak. They have no spiritual connection to the godhead. They pray, yet no divine inspiration or revelation is revealed to them, they receive no orders from on high, merely only from Human Authorities. Now we have self proclaimed Christians like the Black Liberation churches, Hussein Obola, and Westboro Baptists. Plus a bunch of other Southern Baptist pro slavery split offs.

If everything is in God’s hands, then what is the point of voting or fighting evil? One might as well submit to evil as the Quakers do, and leave everything in the hands of some superstitious power beyond human comprehension. That would be very convenient for Lucifer, if he was fighting a war of good and evil against something and needed to prevent his enemy from being reinforced by the spirit of good souls.

It would appear that invective is a virus which infects the #Never Trump camp as well.

How is Matt SE #NeverTrump when 1. There’s no proof he is on twitter in that faction and 2. when Matt said he would be most likely voting Trum…

The virus that has infected humans is called human weakness. And I merely watch as they destroy themselves, using their own pitiful cries of enmity.

As for HRC in reply to JJ. Anyone and their families who have supported the Demoncrats, who have voted once for a Demoncrat, are guilty of helping the Ascension of the evil of HRC. Just because you can hate HRC now, doesn’t mean a damned thing compared to the past transgressions of the American people, here included, who helped bring all of this about. To now complain and declare that now, of all times, it is time to band together to stop an evil that people have ignored for so long, is of a distance from hypocrisy.

Maybe if people recognized the evil of the Leftist alliance years ago, something might have been done. Instead people cried out “Rule of Law”, and “obey the Law”, even as they knew that the Demoncrats controlled the Law using evil. They cried out that we shouldn’t use any “advanced interrogation” tactics against the Left, because they are our fellow countrymen and hey, they voted for plenty of Democrats, so the Demons Are Not the Enemy, they said.

Well, actually they are. And that’s why Hillary Rod Damn Clinton has ascended as Hussein Obola’s successor, in this Regime.

The point is that Roger Simon is a Trump supporter so you would agree with his positions, but I repeat myself. Many others were writing similar stuff at Trumpbart months ago, and may still be. I don’t give them the time of day or clicks.

I read Neo and not Roger for a reason, she still has an open, active mind.

I’m not looking for boosterism.

A post from 8 hours ago regarding Trump statements concerning the war in Iraq. I know and worked with the father of a Marine, killed in Iraq. His son was a crew chief on a helicopter shot down by Iraqi “insurgents” who figured out flight patterns and set up AA kill boxes. The pilot got too predictable, all those on board died. I remember the grief and pain Dick P., the father, showed in the work setting. So when Trump played “Monday morning quarterback”to attack GW Bush, and not to even mention HRC I found it especially loathsome.

Trump’s record on the Iraq was is a proven case of inconsistency and convenient amnesia. Why he chooses to reopen those wounds and take up the Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan arguments is also despicable.

Trump IMO will betray anyone, except maybe his children. He has betrayed wives, so even the family loyalty trait is pretty shallow.

Trust who you will. It’s your vote. Heaven help us all.

So your point is . . . ?

If I had meant to imply that the two pitches were the same, I would have said so. I did not.

I was addressing the fact that other GOP candidates have made pitches to the black community. Rand Paul did, too, although he was not the nominee. It is hardly a novel idea.

What’s more, each one of them made pitches based on what was in the news at the time. The whole Black Lives Matter movement was not ongoing in 2012 or when George Bush was running. Romney discussed (as did Bush) the fact that unquestioning black support for Democrats meant that Democrats didn’t have to do anything to earn black support, and both pointed out that in many ways Republicans were economically better for the black community, as well as better in terms of family values.

It would take me hours to search their back speeches to see what they said on the topic of black crime. I would guess they actually did try to address it, but I don’t have time to do some sort of exhaustive search on the subject. Whenever anyone—Simon or anyone else—claims that a candidate is doing something that no one else has ever done before, though, I have found that generally, when I do a search, the statement isn’t correct and other candidates have indeed said similar things before. I’m not saying that’s true of what Simon wrote, but it’s certainly been generally true in the past.

Trump said, “Hillary Clinton-backed policies are responsible for the problems in the inner cities today, and a vote for her is a vote for another generation of poverty, high crime, and lost opportunities.” Romney’s speech is not at all dissimilar. Here’s the text of his speech in 2012:

I believe that if you understood who I truly am in my heart, and if it were possible to fully communicate what I believe is in the real, enduring best interest of African American families, you would vote for me for president. I want you to know that if I did not believe that my policies and my leadership would help families of color – and families of any color – more than the policies and leadership of President Obama, I would not be running for president.

…I am running for president because I know that my policies and vision will help hundreds of millions of middle class Americans of all races, will lift people from poverty, and will help prevent people from becoming poor. My campaign is about helping the people who need help. The course the President has set has not done that — and will not do that. My course will.

…If equal opportunity in America were an accomplished fact, then a chronically bad economy would be equally bad for everyone. Instead, it’s worse for African Americans in almost every way. The unemployment rate, the duration of unemployment, average income, and median family wealth are all worse for the black community. In June, while the overall unemployment rate remained stuck at 8.2 percent, the unemployment rate for African Americans actually went up, from 13.6 percent to 14.4 percent. …

As you may have heard from my opponent, I am also a believer in the free-enterprise system. I believe it can bring change where so many well-meaning government programs have failed. I’ve never heard anyone look around an impoverished neighborhood and say, “You know, there’s too much free enterprise around here. Too many shops, too many jobs, too many people putting money in the bank.”

What you hear, of course, is how do we bring in jobs? How do we make good, honest employers want to move in and stay? And with the shape this economy is in, we’re asking that more than ever.

Free enterprise is still the greatest force for upward mobility, economic security, and the expansion of the middle class. We have seen in recent years what it’s like to have less free enterprise. As President, I will show the good things that can happen when we have more — more business activity, more jobs, more opportunity, more paychecks, more savings accounts.

On Day One, I will begin turning this economy around with a plan for the middle class. And I don’t mean just those who are middle class now — I also mean those who have waited so long for their chance to join the middle class…

More here:

“Do these five things: Open up energy, expand trade, cut the growth of government, focus on better educating tomorrow’s workers today, and restore economic freedom, and jobs will come back to America, and wages will rise again. We have got to do it,” he said to applause.

“I know the president will say he is going to do those things, but he has not. He will not. He cannot, and his last four years in the White House prove it definitively,” Romney said, followed by boos from the crowd.

It’s certainly not identical to what Trump said. You wouldn’t expect it to be. But it was pretty hard-hitting and certainly in the same vein, and he was brave enough to get booed for it.

Roger Simon jumped aboard the Trump train early in the primaries. He isn’t hiding the fact. He may recover his judgement after November, time will tell./jk

He declared aloud what almost everyone secretly knows, that the horrifying condition of black people in urban America is at least partly, probably largely, the fault of the media’s darling, the Democratic Party. Their failed liberal policies and exploitation of blacks have been making things worse for African-Americans for decades.

You quote: “[Romney] went to make his pitch, to sell himself, to ask (directly) for blacks to just take a moment and give him a look before they pull that lever Nov. 6.”

Trump, OTOH, said:

The narrative that has been pushed aggressively for years now by our current Administration, and pushed by my opponent Hillary Clinton, is a false one.

[snip]

Hillary Clinton-backed policies are responsible for the problems in the inner cities today, and a vote for her is a vote for another generation of poverty, high crime, and lost opportunities.

and you wrote: “Well, previous GOP nominees have certainly made pitches to the black community.” Do you really mean to imply that these two presentations, these two thoughts, equate?

Well, previous GOP nominees have certainly made pitches to the black community. See this 2012 article:

The NAAAA asked him to come address its members, so he graciously agreed (President Obama, invited, said “NAAAA.”) But Mr. Romney, to be sure an almost luminescent shade of white, wasn’t about to pander to the angry masses, to kowtow to the supposed leaders of the black community, to apologize, ingratiate, prostrate himself in submission or adoration. He went to make his pitch, to sell himself, to ask (directly) for blacks to just take a moment and give him a look before they pull that lever Nov. 6.

He made clear why he came: “We have to make our case to every single voter. We don’t count anybody out, and we sure don’t make a habit of presuming anyone’s support. Support is asked for and earned – and that’s why I’m here today.” (Oddly, Mr. Obama is doing just that, presuming blacks will support him, no questions asked.)

And then Mr. Romney got frank: “If equal opportunity in America were an accomplished fact, then a chronically bad economy would be equally bad for everyone. Instead, it’s worse for African-Americans in almost every way. The unemployment rate, the duration of unemployment, average income, and median family wealth are all worse for the black community. In June, while the overall unemployment rate remained stuck at 8.2 percent, the unemployment rate for African-Americans actually went up, from 13.6 percent to 14.4 percent.” By the way, it’s even worse for black teens: 39.3 percent….

George W. Bush made a push for black support during his re-election campaign. He told them, frankly, that they were giving up their bargaining power by backing one party exclusively. Wouldn’t you, he asked, have more clout, leverage, if you played the field, said to Democrats and Republicans: OK, tell me, why I should vote for you?

Mr. Bush won 8 percent of the black vote in 2000. Four years later, he won 11 percent – and election analysts say his strong support in Ohio (16 percent in 2004 versus 7 percent in 2000) tipped the election.

So Mr. Romney’s address to the NAAAA, despite the boos, may prove pivotal. He spoke to them like adults – here are your problems and here’s what I’ll do to address them.

During the primaries, there was a lot of hype about the idea that Trump would do better with black voters than most Republicans have. So far, polls do not support that contention.