Comments on: Aetna cutting back Obamacare involvement

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:26:55 +0000

Is it the will of the Lord? (says who?) This is why Conservatism is collapsing as a force for good.

If you can stop Britain’s oppression during the era of the Founding Fathers and avoid a string of wars as a result, be my guest.

Conservatives have often never understood why protecting the US Constitution was a good thing to do. They merely observed the after effects as being good, but they do not understand what makes the USA exceptional. It’s not military power, secular political power, or because of American technological progress.

Is it worth hundreds of thousands of rotting American women and children in the streets?

The current quota is a few million born for profit setups, by Planned Profit. Although they’ve already accomplished the two digit mark. But I suppose that doesn’t count, for people who can ignore what’s outside of their eyes.

After all, what difference does it make that a few die so that evil may be glorified? It made no difference in Benghazi or to the IRS/ATF goons either.

By: bdh

bdh — Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:30:17 +0000

expat, as a small business person who spends a lot more on employee health issuance than rent, I wish it was decoupled from employment. I’d be able to pay everyone more, and I’d be done with the fact that an older person or one with health issues will increase my rates.
I think we are headed for single payer, unfortunately. When the government screws something up, the default is always it would be better if they just had more control and money.
We are so far down the slope now, it is discouraging at times…

By: expat

expat — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:18:19 +0000

I always thought that health insurance should be decoupled from employment and that insurers should be able to operate across state lines. A person should be able to choose an insurer and keep it if they change jobs or move to another state. This would mean that young healthy people would contribute and they would not become uninsured when the got older and sick. This would reinforce the idea that people are responsible for their own insurance and that it wasn’t simply a gift from their employer.
When that change in outlook occurs, then you can talk about other reforms.

By: Dagon

Dagon — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:16:50 +0000

Ymarsakar

You can’t get fresh bananas? Walk in the park? Travel across the country and look out over the Grand Canyon? (if you have the gas money) What’s the angst? Is it worth hundreds of thousands of rotting American women and children in the streets? Will an American re-set nullify your life’s bad choices? financial debt? Is it the will of the Lord? (says who?) This is why Conservatism is collapsing as a force for good.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:54:33 +0000

After all, according to Trump healthcare is one of the top three functions of the US government.

Even Gates and Buffet might not disagree. A 70 yo Democrat has been too long under the temptation of power and evil, to change their stripes, even if they change their parties.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:46:12 +0000

Until humans suffer, they will refuse to see the truth. Until humans pay the cost, self deception is all they will want to buy with their cries of “mercy”.

There is no mercy available to those who have obeyed the commandments of evil.

That is not the fault of the world, that is not the fault of government, that is the fault of the human weakness in the human heart.

Let people burn, so that they might be forged anew, better this time.

By: huxley

huxley — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:38:11 +0000

Isn’t it great we have had Trump around for the past year to crush almost every news cycle with his latest outrageous and/or idiotic antics?

I was one of the fools who thought Obamacare’s failures would be a big issue in the 2016 election.

Not to worry, though. Trump has a solution:

“I would end Obamacare and replace it with something terrific, for far less money for the country and for the people,” said Trump.

After all, according to Trump healthcare is one of the top three functions of the US government.

By: Ray

Ray — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:28:03 +0000

When more people sign up to use a scarce service the predictable result is the price goes up.
http://www.economics21.org/html/obamacare-won%E2%80%99t-lead-universal-coverage-1752.html

By: Big Maq

Big Maq — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:58:52 +0000

Good article on this…
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-16/aetna-s-retreat-from-obamacare-is-more-than-it-seems

By: Big Maq

Big Maq — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:42:36 +0000

“I used to work for Aetna (on the disability side, not health), and Bertolini would periodically blather to us about the importance of the ACA during the run-up to its passage and after. If I’d been in Connecticut, I’d have screamed at him, “Are you iut of your mind?” This is what the big insurers pushed for, and now here we are.” – Brian S

The insurance providers seemed all in and very supportive all along Obamacare’s formulation.

This is typical of how power gets used in DC. Everyone is out to cut a special deal for themselves.

The insurance industry probably thought it would be a no lose situation as they negotiated a safety net where they would end up being subsidized for making any loses.

Only, Congress had a say in allocating funds to that and a GOP dominated one put a cap on it (yep, the GOP did something about Obamacare where they could). So, now all the industry’s machinations were for naught.

This all comes to a head in 2017. Unless the trumpist GOP 2.0 now thinks “taking care of everybody” means giving in to subsidizing the industry, or authorizing more subsidies to consumers to entice a larger pool of healthy purchasers.