They have the infrastructure in every state. They have two former GOP Governors (two terms each) at the top of their ticket.

While I cannot agree with their positions 100%, then again neither can I for trump or clinton. So, for all the criticism we can have about their policy there are three things:

1) They are in the right direction – smaller government, individual rights
2) Their experience show them to govern largely as moderate conservatives vs ideologues
3) They carry none of the baggage of trump or clinton – they are far more trustworthy, levelheaded than either

Problem is they need 15% in the polls to get on the debate stage.

Folks say “it’ll never happen”. But, precisely because of such thinking (and especially “signalling” so), it becomes self fulfilling.

If JC took that attitude, he’d have never made his way to Golgotha – the Calvary Mount.

It is in our hands.

The Left has hundreds of organizations with better funding, Planned Profit and Soros included.

The Alt Right was originally not a political movement. Thus people have a hard time linking them to GamerGate and RabidPuppies. They don’t consider those two incidents “political”.

The Democrat vs Republican red vs blue team is a binary solution set. That is what the Two Party system designed politics as here, winner take all.

But the third solution set opens when one side wages war, not politics. The Left has been at war for some time now, their enemies think they are winning or losing elections however. Thus the non binary solution set would be “Trum throws the election, on purpose”. Trum dies before getting to DC, not on purpose. And various other things that could happen, like Hussein not stepping down.

Let’s stipulate that Austin Bay is a hagiographer, and is wishcasting onto Trump everything HE HOPES he is, without any actual proof.
What are the chances that Bay knows Trump personally? Knows him better than the “close friends” who are now shocked by Trump’s behavior toward the Khans?
I would bet, “not good.”

Bay’s article is more self-serving twaddle meant to make the faithful feel good about their crusade, and the Don Quixote leading it.

I remember the John Birch Society.

I think the alt-right is worse. At least the JBS was (and is???) anti-Communist and for small government. The alt-right has no such qualms.

This is why I keep telling you that the alt-right is the rebirth of the John Birch Society, complete with paranoia.

You write that you don’t know how bad Trump would or could be, but you know how bad Hillary would be.

I’ve heard that sort of thing many times, and I pretty much agree with it. Trouble is, it can cut both ways. In other words, Trump could be better than she or worse than she. In fact, he could be much worse. That’s what I meant by the “unknown unknowns.” We simply don’t know much about what he would be, but that does not necessarily argue in favor of voting for him.

It ain’t going to happen, it is binary in that either hrc or djt will win 270 electoral votes. I have stated that Iowa will have to be extremely close come November before I will vote for djt. If it comes down to that, and a miracle happens and the orange man wins; I fully expect him to nominate liberals to SCOTUS, create foreign disasters, rack up trillion dollar annual deficits, and keep the southern border wide open,

The only upside should a miracle occur in November is that a final nail will seal the lid of the coffin of the Clinton Crime Family’s political ambitions.

I could be considered informally a NeverTrumper–I do not do hashtags etc. but have certainly agreed with the sentiment. It’s beside the point now that the convention is over, but up until the point where Trump was nominated I was NeverTrump for a different reason: because I was convinced his nomination would guarantee a Hillary win. Still think that’s the most likely outcome.

” … I am arguing that if we truly find trump as unacceptable (as we do clinton), there is a path that is attainable …”

Really. Is “attainable” intended to mean something like “electorally possible”?

” and which is the next best alternative to the two we seem stuck on.”

I wonder if the author of this comment has actually read the Libertarian Party platform or the “On the Issues” bullets specifically on immigration, defense, or for that matter numerous other points; or Gary Johnson’s own statement of views.

“If we keep on signalling each other that it is trump out of the two, then that is what it will be.

It is in our hands to stop that chatter and say enough is enough.”

Well, the calculus of getting to a Libertarian victory aside, one might be advised to look at what they are advocating before jumping on their current bandwagon.

It seems to me that there not only two stupid and dangerous choices in this election but four.