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		By: Neo-Neo Con Encapsulates Why I Am Not Supporting Trump &#8211; The American Catholic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neo-Neo Con Encapsulates Why I Am Not Supporting Trump &#8211; The American Catholic]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] here to read the comments.  Riding a wave of voter resentment I think Trump is going to smash [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] here to read the comments.  Riding a wave of voter resentment I think Trump is going to smash [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462810</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I noticed that he doesn&#039;t have any skin in the game. If Trump turns out to be a disaster, we&#039;ll all sleep better knowing that Day won&#039;t suffer any consequences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I noticed that he doesn&#8217;t have any skin in the game. If Trump turns out to be a disaster, we&#8217;ll all sleep better knowing that Day won&#8217;t suffer any consequences.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462586</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Vox Day runs a little clique of sycophants. You will be tolerated as long as you don’t point out their own hypocrisy. If you do point it out, you’ll be perma-banned, as I was.&lt;/b&gt;

Just so you know, VD doesn&#039;t have time to &quot;run&quot; his blog. He writes stuff there, yea, but moderation is done by his employees or volunteers. It&#039;s in the rules even.

VD runs a partially self funded, but independent publishing house, from Italy or somewhere in Europe. VoxDay left the US by around 2008-2010, because of impending economic collapse. Well that stuff is always &quot;impending&quot; but nobody knows when it will. So he got out soon, but he seems to care a lot about US politics, even though he doesn&#039;t consider himself an American. For such a person, of conflicting identities and intellect, coming up with that Cuckservative book would be expected.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Vox Day runs a little clique of sycophants. You will be tolerated as long as you don’t point out their own hypocrisy. If you do point it out, you’ll be perma-banned, as I was.</b></p>
<p>Just so you know, VD doesn&#8217;t have time to &#8220;run&#8221; his blog. He writes stuff there, yea, but moderation is done by his employees or volunteers. It&#8217;s in the rules even.</p>
<p>VD runs a partially self funded, but independent publishing house, from Italy or somewhere in Europe. VoxDay left the US by around 2008-2010, because of impending economic collapse. Well that stuff is always &#8220;impending&#8221; but nobody knows when it will. So he got out soon, but he seems to care a lot about US politics, even though he doesn&#8217;t consider himself an American. For such a person, of conflicting identities and intellect, coming up with that Cuckservative book would be expected.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462578</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The alt-right were here in this country when the establishment was selling us out. WHY DIDN’T THEY STOP THEM?&lt;/b&gt;

The Alt right didn&#039;t exist back then, so they were busy with things like ALpha Game, internet marketing stuff, and gaming. Which isn&#039;t an insult, btw, merely a statement of fact. The Alt Right is made as a anti Left alliance, they didn&#039;t have common interests back then.

Oh, VoxDay appeared politically Libertarian or Independent in 2010, looking at his interviews. Doesn&#039;t mean God told him the truth about the Leftist alliance or Islam, however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The alt-right were here in this country when the establishment was selling us out. WHY DIDN’T THEY STOP THEM?</b></p>
<p>The Alt right didn&#8217;t exist back then, so they were busy with things like ALpha Game, internet marketing stuff, and gaming. Which isn&#8217;t an insult, btw, merely a statement of fact. The Alt Right is made as a anti Left alliance, they didn&#8217;t have common interests back then.</p>
<p>Oh, VoxDay appeared politically Libertarian or Independent in 2010, looking at his interviews. Doesn&#8217;t mean God told him the truth about the Leftist alliance or Islam, however.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462490</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vox Day parrots the absurd and ignorant Party Line of the alt-right that &quot;conservatives didn&#039;t conserve.&quot; They make this claim because they don&#039;t actually understand that conservatives are a minority in Congress (less than 25%, by my reckoning).

Just how a minority is supposed to bring a corrupt establishment to heel is never mentioned. But again, even asking the question would require them to understand the situation in ways they obviously don&#039;t.

I have a counter-accusation: The alt-right were here in this country when the establishment was selling us out. WHY DIDN&#039;T THEY STOP THEM?

You see how easy it is to turn their argument back on them?

Vox Day runs a little clique of sycophants. You will be tolerated as long as you don&#039;t point out their own hypocrisy. If you do point it out, you&#039;ll be perma-banned, as I was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vox Day parrots the absurd and ignorant Party Line of the alt-right that &#8220;conservatives didn&#8217;t conserve.&#8221; They make this claim because they don&#8217;t actually understand that conservatives are a minority in Congress (less than 25%, by my reckoning).</p>
<p>Just how a minority is supposed to bring a corrupt establishment to heel is never mentioned. But again, even asking the question would require them to understand the situation in ways they obviously don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I have a counter-accusation: The alt-right were here in this country when the establishment was selling us out. WHY DIDN&#8217;T THEY STOP THEM?</p>
<p>You see how easy it is to turn their argument back on them?</p>
<p>Vox Day runs a little clique of sycophants. You will be tolerated as long as you don&#8217;t point out their own hypocrisy. If you do point it out, you&#8217;ll be perma-banned, as I was.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462416</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;And I have yet to see evidence that many Democrats or Independents are flocking to him, either.&lt;/b&gt;-Neo

Oh right, I forgot I was replying to this originally.

Some of those Democrats are whites on welfare, nationalists or former Democrat nationalists.

They may not have been voting before, actually. Anyways, that group is kind of low economic class, where middle class Republicans don&#039;t see much of them.

They exist though. It&#039;s not the middle class INdependents and Democrats moving to Trump, is my prediction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>And I have yet to see evidence that many Democrats or Independents are flocking to him, either.</b>-Neo</p>
<p>Oh right, I forgot I was replying to this originally.</p>
<p>Some of those Democrats are whites on welfare, nationalists or former Democrat nationalists.</p>
<p>They may not have been voting before, actually. Anyways, that group is kind of low economic class, where middle class Republicans don&#8217;t see much of them.</p>
<p>They exist though. It&#8217;s not the middle class INdependents and Democrats moving to Trump, is my prediction.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462413</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;And I have yet to see evidence that many Democrats or Independents are flocking to him, either.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Ymarsakar – you have to hold the line, with inferior troops if necessary, before you can deliver a crushing blow with your good troops. That’s where we are right now, containing the Bulge until another Reagan comes along.&lt;/b&gt;

In that case, Saunders, I might as well wait for the Second Coming or the Rapture, there&#039;s about as much evidence that they will happen in these days.

Doesn&#039;t really get me motivated gouging out Leftist and Cruz supporter eyes, for Trum boys, however. All that hate I had for the Left and other election bs, has waned over time. It&#039;s still there, it&#039;s just not controlling my actions.

I have nothing against a delaying action. But if I&#039;m going to be fighting a delaying action, the political elites had better act like they Aren&#039;t Going to Stab me in the Back Once it is over. At least pretend to act like that, so someone like me, can&#039;t perceive it...

Even the damn Russians knew to point guns at fleeing troops, to turn them back, even if firing bullets was a waste. But later, they pretended it never happened.

&lt;b&gt;But a small defensive action, like not giving out free college education so that the Leftist professors can brainwash more kids, is a worthwhile tactic.

&lt;/b&gt;
I&#039;ll believe it when I see it. Actions, not words and political Trum promises.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>And I have yet to see evidence that many Democrats or Independents are flocking to him, either.</b></p>
<p><b>Ymarsakar – you have to hold the line, with inferior troops if necessary, before you can deliver a crushing blow with your good troops. That’s where we are right now, containing the Bulge until another Reagan comes along.</b></p>
<p>In that case, Saunders, I might as well wait for the Second Coming or the Rapture, there&#8217;s about as much evidence that they will happen in these days.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t really get me motivated gouging out Leftist and Cruz supporter eyes, for Trum boys, however. All that hate I had for the Left and other election bs, has waned over time. It&#8217;s still there, it&#8217;s just not controlling my actions.</p>
<p>I have nothing against a delaying action. But if I&#8217;m going to be fighting a delaying action, the political elites had better act like they Aren&#8217;t Going to Stab me in the Back Once it is over. At least pretend to act like that, so someone like me, can&#8217;t perceive it&#8230;</p>
<p>Even the damn Russians knew to point guns at fleeing troops, to turn them back, even if firing bullets was a waste. But later, they pretended it never happened.</p>
<p><b>But a small defensive action, like not giving out free college education so that the Leftist professors can brainwash more kids, is a worthwhile tactic.</p>
<p></b><br />
I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it. Actions, not words and political Trum promises.</p>
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		By: fiona		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462350</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can see 2 possibilities from a Trump presidency&#124;  he loses interest in politics and goes on to something else. maybe a TV show. or 2 If he wants to get something done, he decides that the democrats in COngress are his allies - this especially likely if they take either house or if the GOPe (which currently is trying to  reign him in, the better to reassume their cushy positions) gives him any trouble at all. In the latter case, you can rely on the media slobbering over him, which will undoubtedly entrench his preference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see 2 possibilities from a Trump presidency|  he loses interest in politics and goes on to something else. maybe a TV show. or 2 If he wants to get something done, he decides that the democrats in COngress are his allies &#8211; this especially likely if they take either house or if the GOPe (which currently is trying to  reign him in, the better to reassume their cushy positions) gives him any trouble at all. In the latter case, you can rely on the media slobbering over him, which will undoubtedly entrench his preference.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/07/26/just-imagine-2/#comment-1462287</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baklava -- but the Lefties think Venezuela and Cuba are SUCCESSFUL!

Ymarsakar -- you have to hold the line, with inferior troops if necessary, before you can deliver a crushing blow with your good troops.  That&#039;s where we are right now, containing the Bulge until another Reagan comes along.

Eric is right -- it will take years of counter-activism to defeat the Left by getting conservatives into colleges, high schools, and the MSM.  It may be impossible.  But  a small defensive action, like not giving out free college education so that the Leftist professors can brainwash more kids, is a worthwhile tactic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava &#8212; but the Lefties think Venezuela and Cuba are SUCCESSFUL!</p>
<p>Ymarsakar &#8212; you have to hold the line, with inferior troops if necessary, before you can deliver a crushing blow with your good troops.  That&#8217;s where we are right now, containing the Bulge until another Reagan comes along.</p>
<p>Eric is right &#8212; it will take years of counter-activism to defeat the Left by getting conservatives into colleges, high schools, and the MSM.  It may be impossible.  But  a small defensive action, like not giving out free college education so that the Leftist professors can brainwash more kids, is a worthwhile tactic.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Playing the devil’s advocate; the Jewish diaspora, the Holocaust, genocidal Islamic hostility and a West that makes them a scapegoat would argue against the House of God still offering protection to the tribe of Israel.&lt;/b&gt;-GB

The Jews are held to the Covenant, but they broke it several times. God seems to be determined to hold them to it, no matter how many thousands of years pass. It&#039;s almost like an obsession, or an oath bound on the divine level.

The House of Israel has a nation, which was what they were prophesied and promised. That after they were punished with the scattering, they would be brought back to the land of their forefathers. It&#039;s better than what the Armenian and Kurds got. Or the Zoroastrians, what&#039;s left of them in Persia.

Certain Jewish tribes worked under Arab and Islamic lords, helping sell white blue eyed virgins from Europe to the Caliph or the Sultans. Even after all the violations of the laws of Moses, of the Covenant of the Ark, and various other divine laws, the House of Israel is still united and still prosperous, even outside of Israel the nation.

If Islam ends up genociding the Yazidi, Kurds, and Armenians, what will be left of them? Not nearly as much, as the Jews were left after the Holocaust.

It&#039;s a minor miracle, that the House of Israel still exists, as a nation, as a people, even in exile. Major miracle, depending on point of view.

&lt;b&gt;Small correction; while I was a liberal until the start of Bill Clinton’s 2nd term, I have never voted for either a democrat President or Congressman.

And since the winners write the history books, all of us have a view of the history of the Left, that is a bit skewed and incomplete… even you.&lt;/b&gt;

That&#039;s good to know, I&#039;ll keep that in mind. As for the history books, that is also true. But it is also why I decided to seek out the truth, no matter the cost or what enemy I would make in the process, even if that meant all of humanity would be against me.

It is also part of the reason I question VoxDay and the ALt Right&#039;s &quot;Christian Nationalism&quot;, &quot;Nationalism under Trumpcar&quot;, and various other things happening recently. They are so afraid of the Leftist alliance and Islamic Jihad, that they would sell anything they own or will own, for Salvation. Even I, when I was enlightened as to the Left&#039;s true nature beginning around 2007, was not so desperate and weak as to become a vassal of Human shit Lords, merely because of fear of evil. How low Americans have sunk, from the time of the Founding Fathers. Not that most people back then were saints, they were rather violent, stupid, primitive, and brutish. Those primitives had plenty of excuses for their behavior, being brought up under European heresies and stupidities. I wonder what excuses Americans have for their behavior now... the Left once again?

&lt;b&gt;Thus it becomes a case of the least harmful. Trump may be worse but that is doubtful given the nature of the forces that stand at Clinton’s side.&lt;/b&gt;-GB

That argument has been used before with RNC primaries and contenders. It&#039;s valid whenever there is a human power play. But this power play has gotten a little bit more serious. Now people are throwing around things like Cruz=Lucifer, even though they never would have against black Hussein or the Confederate Southern Baptist slave lords. Now H Rod Damn Clinton is even = evil. The Republican tendency to act Christian to even their enemies... has mostly evaporated by now, for good or evil. No, it&#039;s not about Trum&#039;s  behavior. It&#039;s about the behavior of the people voting, grassroots style.

The pragmatic argument by GB would have been capable of convincing people to vote their conscience, for the conclusion of said argument, in some other time. But not now, not with the current context and situation. That type of persuasion is insufficient now a days. 

From between 2007-2012, I thought of humans, in the USA at least, as lacking sufficient hate to see the truth of the Left&#039;s evil. Now that they have tasted a little bit of evil and got some hate, they still aren&#039;t much better at accepting the truth or seeking for a power free of the Left&#039;s evil corruption. They want the Left&#039;s power, they want the Left&#039;s megalomania, evil, and corruption, because they are afraid of.

Frankly, they don&#039;t qualify for salvation. Let them beg, burn, what does it really matter in the end. Humans are a renewable resource to the Left. Souls are eternal and not something the Left can mass manufacture. Humans will learn from pain and experience, that&#039;s about it. I can tell them things, but that doesn&#039;t allow comprehension.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Playing the devil’s advocate; the Jewish diaspora, the Holocaust, genocidal Islamic hostility and a West that makes them a scapegoat would argue against the House of God still offering protection to the tribe of Israel.</b>-GB</p>
<p>The Jews are held to the Covenant, but they broke it several times. God seems to be determined to hold them to it, no matter how many thousands of years pass. It&#8217;s almost like an obsession, or an oath bound on the divine level.</p>
<p>The House of Israel has a nation, which was what they were prophesied and promised. That after they were punished with the scattering, they would be brought back to the land of their forefathers. It&#8217;s better than what the Armenian and Kurds got. Or the Zoroastrians, what&#8217;s left of them in Persia.</p>
<p>Certain Jewish tribes worked under Arab and Islamic lords, helping sell white blue eyed virgins from Europe to the Caliph or the Sultans. Even after all the violations of the laws of Moses, of the Covenant of the Ark, and various other divine laws, the House of Israel is still united and still prosperous, even outside of Israel the nation.</p>
<p>If Islam ends up genociding the Yazidi, Kurds, and Armenians, what will be left of them? Not nearly as much, as the Jews were left after the Holocaust.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a minor miracle, that the House of Israel still exists, as a nation, as a people, even in exile. Major miracle, depending on point of view.</p>
<p><b>Small correction; while I was a liberal until the start of Bill Clinton’s 2nd term, I have never voted for either a democrat President or Congressman.</p>
<p>And since the winners write the history books, all of us have a view of the history of the Left, that is a bit skewed and incomplete… even you.</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s good to know, I&#8217;ll keep that in mind. As for the history books, that is also true. But it is also why I decided to seek out the truth, no matter the cost or what enemy I would make in the process, even if that meant all of humanity would be against me.</p>
<p>It is also part of the reason I question VoxDay and the ALt Right&#8217;s &#8220;Christian Nationalism&#8221;, &#8220;Nationalism under Trumpcar&#8221;, and various other things happening recently. They are so afraid of the Leftist alliance and Islamic Jihad, that they would sell anything they own or will own, for Salvation. Even I, when I was enlightened as to the Left&#8217;s true nature beginning around 2007, was not so desperate and weak as to become a vassal of Human shit Lords, merely because of fear of evil. How low Americans have sunk, from the time of the Founding Fathers. Not that most people back then were saints, they were rather violent, stupid, primitive, and brutish. Those primitives had plenty of excuses for their behavior, being brought up under European heresies and stupidities. I wonder what excuses Americans have for their behavior now&#8230; the Left once again?</p>
<p><b>Thus it becomes a case of the least harmful. Trump may be worse but that is doubtful given the nature of the forces that stand at Clinton’s side.</b>-GB</p>
<p>That argument has been used before with RNC primaries and contenders. It&#8217;s valid whenever there is a human power play. But this power play has gotten a little bit more serious. Now people are throwing around things like Cruz=Lucifer, even though they never would have against black Hussein or the Confederate Southern Baptist slave lords. Now H Rod Damn Clinton is even = evil. The Republican tendency to act Christian to even their enemies&#8230; has mostly evaporated by now, for good or evil. No, it&#8217;s not about Trum&#8217;s  behavior. It&#8217;s about the behavior of the people voting, grassroots style.</p>
<p>The pragmatic argument by GB would have been capable of convincing people to vote their conscience, for the conclusion of said argument, in some other time. But not now, not with the current context and situation. That type of persuasion is insufficient now a days. </p>
<p>From between 2007-2012, I thought of humans, in the USA at least, as lacking sufficient hate to see the truth of the Left&#8217;s evil. Now that they have tasted a little bit of evil and got some hate, they still aren&#8217;t much better at accepting the truth or seeking for a power free of the Left&#8217;s evil corruption. They want the Left&#8217;s power, they want the Left&#8217;s megalomania, evil, and corruption, because they are afraid of.</p>
<p>Frankly, they don&#8217;t qualify for salvation. Let them beg, burn, what does it really matter in the end. Humans are a renewable resource to the Left. Souls are eternal and not something the Left can mass manufacture. Humans will learn from pain and experience, that&#8217;s about it. I can tell them things, but that doesn&#8217;t allow comprehension.</p>
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