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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back when Ferguson was exploding, I told people who were saying &quot;Just Obey the police and you&#039;ll be okay&quot;, that the Rule of Law didn&#039;t exist. It&#039;s good to see that eventually people have caught up to my pov on this matter, even if they needed the Left to boot them in the head with HRC&#039;s antics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when Ferguson was exploding, I told people who were saying &#8220;Just Obey the police and you&#8217;ll be okay&#8221;, that the Rule of Law didn&#8217;t exist. It&#8217;s good to see that eventually people have caught up to my pov on this matter, even if they needed the Left to boot them in the head with HRC&#8217;s antics.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I agree with those who think she was selling information.&lt;/b&gt;

Of course she was, how else was she going to finance another Presidential bid. She lost the first one, because Hussein had better Chicago machine tricks. This time, she was prepared. And Democrats love to work together, like a House of Evil. Their house is not divided. Kerry, CLinton, and Hussein were all in it, after all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I agree with those who think she was selling information.</b></p>
<p>Of course she was, how else was she going to finance another Presidential bid. She lost the first one, because Hussein had better Chicago machine tricks. This time, she was prepared. And Democrats love to work together, like a House of Evil. Their house is not divided. Kerry, CLinton, and Hussein were all in it, after all.</p>
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		By: snopercod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right you are, Stan. See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/comey-has-long-history-of-clinton-related-cases/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comey has long history of cases ending favorable to Clintons&lt;/a&gt;. At the time, Comey was an assistant DA at the DOJ and worked on the Berger case. The incest gets even worse, though.  Sandy Berger, Loretta Lynch and Cheryl Mills were were all partners in the Washington law firm Hogan &#038; Hartson &quot;which prepared tax returns for the Clintons and did patent work for a software firm that [later] played a role in the private email server Hillary Clinton used when she was secretary of state.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right you are, Stan. See: <a href="http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/comey-has-long-history-of-clinton-related-cases/" rel="nofollow">Comey has long history of cases ending favorable to Clintons</a>. At the time, Comey was an assistant DA at the DOJ and worked on the Berger case. The incest gets even worse, though.  Sandy Berger, Loretta Lynch and Cheryl Mills were were all partners in the Washington law firm Hogan &amp; Hartson &#8220;which prepared tax returns for the Clintons and did patent work for a software firm that [later] played a role in the private email server Hillary Clinton used when she was secretary of state.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Stan on the Brazos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 23:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was not Comey in charge of the Berger investigation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was not Comey in charge of the Berger investigation?</p>
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		By: LindaF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sometimes, you might think of the effort you have put into getting this post together, and wonder whether it is worth the time.

It is.  I&#039;m one of the many who link back to these kind of posts, hoping to spread the word.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, you might think of the effort you have put into getting this post together, and wonder whether it is worth the time.</p>
<p>It is.  I&#8217;m one of the many who link back to these kind of posts, hoping to spread the word.</p>
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		By: snopercod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo asks: &lt;blockquote&gt;What was her &lt;i&gt;intent&lt;/i&gt; in designing the entire system?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree with those who think she was selling information. She was using her server as a drop-box  where &quot;hackers&quot; could snag it in exchange for contributions to the Clinton Foundation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo asks: </p>
<blockquote><p>What was her <i>intent</i> in designing the entire system?</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with those who think she was selling information. She was using her server as a drop-box  where &#8220;hackers&#8221; could snag it in exchange for contributions to the Clinton Foundation.</p>
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		By: Julie near Chicago		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of Krauthammer&#039;s conjecture, here&#039;s law prof. Richard Epstein on Comey&#039;s motivations.  (Does Prof. E. need an introduction to anyone here?  Probably not.  A Big Noise in Libertarian Legal circles, but not thank god one of those Beltway types.  I&#039;m a &lt;em&gt;huge&lt;/em&gt; fan, despite that I disagree with him very, very often!)

About 15 minutes.

http://www.hoover.org/research/libertarian-hillary-clinton-and-fbi]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Krauthammer&#8217;s conjecture, here&#8217;s law prof. Richard Epstein on Comey&#8217;s motivations.  (Does Prof. E. need an introduction to anyone here?  Probably not.  A Big Noise in Libertarian Legal circles, but not thank god one of those Beltway types.  I&#8217;m a <em>huge</em> fan, despite that I disagree with him very, very often!)</p>
<p>About 15 minutes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hoover.org/research/libertarian-hillary-clinton-and-fbi" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hoover.org/research/libertarian-hillary-clinton-and-fbi</a></p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 02:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-servicemember-admits-illegally-retaining-photos-taken-inside-nuclear-submarine-and

The DoJ and FBI are bad jokes. They&#039;re insulting us to our faces.

&quot;Saucier had a secret clearance and knew that the photos depicted classified material and that he was not authorized to take them.  He retained these photos and failed to deliver them to any officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.&quot;

Was anything marked classified? That&#039;s Clinton&#039;s excuse.

Clinton had a higher level clearance; TS/SCI. Also the Secretary of State is an original classification authority. Which means it was her responsibility to recognize classified information when it isn&#039;t marked. And she knew she was not authorized to put classified information on her private, unsecure unclassified email system. Yet she retained this information and failed to deliver them to any officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.

Also, the email server is itself a crime.
&quot;Kel McClanahan, another national security lawyer, said the FBI had not pursued an important line of inquiry: whether Clinton violated the law merely by setting up private servers and diverting government records. Someone who “conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys” government records can face a fine and up to three years in prison. The Justice Department has sent defendants to prison for such a crime, McClanahan said.

“The thrust of this law is to prevent people from depriving the government of the use it gets from public records, and that is exactly what happened here,” McClanahan said.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article88042162.html#storylink=cpy&quot;

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

&quot;18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-servicemember-admits-illegally-retaining-photos-taken-inside-nuclear-submarine-and" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-servicemember-admits-illegally-retaining-photos-taken-inside-nuclear-submarine-and</a></p>
<p>The DoJ and FBI are bad jokes. They&#8217;re insulting us to our faces.</p>
<p>&#8220;Saucier had a secret clearance and knew that the photos depicted classified material and that he was not authorized to take them.  He retained these photos and failed to deliver them to any officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was anything marked classified? That&#8217;s Clinton&#8217;s excuse.</p>
<p>Clinton had a higher level clearance; TS/SCI. Also the Secretary of State is an original classification authority. Which means it was her responsibility to recognize classified information when it isn&#8217;t marked. And she knew she was not authorized to put classified information on her private, unsecure unclassified email system. Yet she retained this information and failed to deliver them to any officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.</p>
<p>Also, the email server is itself a crime.<br />
&#8220;Kel McClanahan, another national security lawyer, said the FBI had not pursued an important line of inquiry: whether Clinton violated the law merely by setting up private servers and diverting government records. Someone who “conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys” government records can face a fine and up to three years in prison. The Justice Department has sent defendants to prison for such a crime, McClanahan said.</p>
<p>“The thrust of this law is to prevent people from depriving the government of the use it gets from public records, and that is exactly what happened here,” McClanahan said.</p>
<p>Read more here: <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article88042162.html#storylink=cpy" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article88042162.html#storylink=cpy</a>&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071</a></p>
<p>&#8220;18 U.S. Code § 2071 &#8211; Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally</p>
<p>(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.</p>
<p>(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.&#8221;</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When government officials, elected or appointed, fail to conduct their actions in accordance with the oath of office; there are no ameliorating circumstances such as &quot;didn&#039;t want to make history&quot;. Comey made history by his actions. He laid out the case for indictment and then invented a irrational reason to not recommend indictment, that will be his historical footnote.  Same goes for Roberts turning a penalty to refuse to engage in commerce into a tax.

Pretzal logic of Hollow Men is no logic at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When government officials, elected or appointed, fail to conduct their actions in accordance with the oath of office; there are no ameliorating circumstances such as &#8220;didn&#8217;t want to make history&#8221;. Comey made history by his actions. He laid out the case for indictment and then invented a irrational reason to not recommend indictment, that will be his historical footnote.  Same goes for Roberts turning a penalty to refuse to engage in commerce into a tax.</p>
<p>Pretzal logic of Hollow Men is no logic at all.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann @ July 9th, 2016 at 7:46 pm,

But by trying to “reconcile [Comey’s] reputation for integrity with the grating illogic of his Clinton decision” all Krauthammer succeeds in doing is demonstrating he had no integrity to begin with.

Integrity would demand that he follow the facts, not make ridiculous rewrites of a law on the books, not make ridiculous claims about &quot;gross negligence&quot; laws being unconstitutional (state laws about &quot;gross negligence&quot; still have to comply with the Constitution, and and they do) and more importantly he should be concerned about the damage Clinton did to the security of the United States.  And this wouldn&#039;t just involve the classified emails. If you read the statute particularly paragraph (f) there&#039;s not a word in there about classified information. And then let the chips fall where they may.

But what was Comey concerned about, according to Krauthammer? Politics. His legacy.

&quot;...He did not want the FBI director to end up as the arbiter of the 2016 presidential election. If Clinton were not a presumptive presidential nominee but simply a retired secretary of state, he might well have made a different recommendation.

...You knock out of the race the most likely next president – and she ultimately gets acquitted! Imagine how Comey goes down in history under those circumstances.&quot;

These are not the concerns of a man with integrity. These are the concerns of a man who sticks his finger in the air to find out which way the wind is blowing, and then bend with the prevailing breeze. Krauthammer&#039;s attempted explanation, while not perhaps a defense, still demonstrates that Comey&#039;s recommendation is indefensible.

And Clinton should have also been charged with anticipatory obstruction of justice, BTW.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1519

&quot;Whoever knowingly alters, &lt;strong&gt;destroys&lt;/strong&gt;, mutilates, &lt;strong&gt;conceals&lt;/strong&gt;, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to &lt;strong&gt;or contemplation of any such matter or case&lt;/strong&gt;, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.&quot;

Clinton knew Congress was investigating Benghazi before she left office. She definitely concealed her records by keeping them on a secret server. And she definitely destroyed documents when she deleted what she claims were personal emails, and then wiped her server, knowing that Congress had requested all Benghazi related emails. But then, we know she hadn&#039;t handed over work related emails.

And it&#039;s important to know that it wasn&#039;t just the ongoing Congressional investigation she needed to contemplate. If she destroyed documents to impede any future investigation it&#039;s a crime to conceal, destroy, etc., any records. Such as, say, this FBI investigation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann @ July 9th, 2016 at 7:46 pm,</p>
<p>But by trying to “reconcile [Comey’s] reputation for integrity with the grating illogic of his Clinton decision” all Krauthammer succeeds in doing is demonstrating he had no integrity to begin with.</p>
<p>Integrity would demand that he follow the facts, not make ridiculous rewrites of a law on the books, not make ridiculous claims about &#8220;gross negligence&#8221; laws being unconstitutional (state laws about &#8220;gross negligence&#8221; still have to comply with the Constitution, and and they do) and more importantly he should be concerned about the damage Clinton did to the security of the United States.  And this wouldn&#8217;t just involve the classified emails. If you read the statute particularly paragraph (f) there&#8217;s not a word in there about classified information. And then let the chips fall where they may.</p>
<p>But what was Comey concerned about, according to Krauthammer? Politics. His legacy.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;He did not want the FBI director to end up as the arbiter of the 2016 presidential election. If Clinton were not a presumptive presidential nominee but simply a retired secretary of state, he might well have made a different recommendation.</p>
<p>&#8230;You knock out of the race the most likely next president – and she ultimately gets acquitted! Imagine how Comey goes down in history under those circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are not the concerns of a man with integrity. These are the concerns of a man who sticks his finger in the air to find out which way the wind is blowing, and then bend with the prevailing breeze. Krauthammer&#8217;s attempted explanation, while not perhaps a defense, still demonstrates that Comey&#8217;s recommendation is indefensible.</p>
<p>And Clinton should have also been charged with anticipatory obstruction of justice, BTW.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1519" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1519</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Whoever knowingly alters, <strong>destroys</strong>, mutilates, <strong>conceals</strong>, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to <strong>or contemplation of any such matter or case</strong>, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clinton knew Congress was investigating Benghazi before she left office. She definitely concealed her records by keeping them on a secret server. And she definitely destroyed documents when she deleted what she claims were personal emails, and then wiped her server, knowing that Congress had requested all Benghazi related emails. But then, we know she hadn&#8217;t handed over work related emails.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s important to know that it wasn&#8217;t just the ongoing Congressional investigation she needed to contemplate. If she destroyed documents to impede any future investigation it&#8217;s a crime to conceal, destroy, etc., any records. Such as, say, this FBI investigation.</p>
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