neo-neocon

To GB, another thing I noticed was how you contradicted yourself a little bit here. If “liberals” are merely tools of Leftists, why are the tools somehow figuring out the original free will and agency behavior of justifying their means with the end? A tool doesn’t justify anything nor are they allowed to think of anything.

Separating the soft Leftists, what you call “liberals”, from the Leftists who you deem as enemies and thus okay to terminate, is a kind of emotional displacement. I don’t think it is all that solid, when it will be tested. That is why I consider them all guilty. They all had free will and chose to sell their soul and will, for what evil promised them. It doesn’t matter what place in the hierarchy they occupy, whether they are the cannonfodder, the zombies, or the Ayers priesthood of Hussein, their Messiah trinity, with transsexual male Michelle.

They are all guilty. If they wanted to atone for their evil, they would converted from the Leftist dogma and death cult, to something rational or sane or good. Having sold their free will and soul, however, getting them back is not so easy any more. They’re also guilty of that.

If not liberals and instead zombies… can a zombie be held responsible, by definition lacking free will?

That depends on whether you want to bother feeling guilty about pulling the trigger on a few hundred million zombies. Winning the war requires hitting the strategic levers and supply bases/lines. Blaming or hating the tools of the enemy, may be useful in the tactical or short term sense, but eventually you’ll have to hold responsible the leaders.

That doesn’t mean the cannonfodder get to be “saved”. If they are in the way, neutralize. I don’t think your system of justifying liberals vs Leftists, innocent vs guilty, works for a war. It’s too weak of a justification for a war, at least. For a political fight or some kind of fist fight at a bar, it might be enough though. It takes a lot of justifications, internal or external, to hate an enemy enough to kill them, up close or far away either way.

Like that Stanley Fish article from a couple years back, celebrating double standards: The Left’s point of view is, “WE know WE are moral, and noble, and intelligent, and dedicated to The Greater Good. So, sometimes one of the People On Our Side might say or do something that can be misconstrued. WE know that WE are *all* innocent of any shabby motives. Behavior we would seize upon if done by a Republican (because they are Evil and Other; and nationalistic and racist and greedy and White and Christian, but I repeat myself) is a nothingburger if done by one of ours. See? Easy. Lefties=Good no matter what. Non-lefties=WRONG. Always.”

Kinda like the bright-line dichotomy between feminists, and Men. The latter’s existence is assumed by the former to be solely for the purpose of being labeled The Enemy In All Respects.

Thus when you recognize them as being liberals, GB, you are falling for their distortion first and foremost. They are zombies, they do not even understand liberty to begin with.” Ymarsakar

If not liberals and instead zombies… can a zombie be held responsible, by definition lacking free will?

Gallup’s latest poll sheds some light on this issue;

“New low: Gallup poll says only 52% are ‘extremely proud’ to be Americans”

“36 percent of liberals said they were “extremely proud” to be Americans in the survey.

Patriotism levels among Democrats and independents were roughly equal. The survey found 45 percent of Democrats were extremely proud to be Americans, along with 44 percent of independents.”

I don’t believe that it is a viable proposition to assert that those “zombies” who agree that they are “extremely proud” to be Americans are not also “useful idiots”.

“Useful” to the left that is and, “idiots” in that they haven’t a clue as to what is actually going on.

We all personally know many who vote democrat, consider themselves liberal and value liberty within societal limits. Limits that we all agree must exist, since anarchy is the alternative when limits are absent. Leftists aside, of what those limits consist of and to what degree is where the disagreement lies.

The Democrats since even 1830, have been the party looking to dominate and subordinate blacks and any other weakened minority/community. They had a working eugenics philosophy even before the birth of Margaret Sanger. They loved slavery 2.0 back then just as they love slavery 3.0 right now.

The Democrats have not changed so much over the time, even if their Jim Crow KKK based politics have.

Beezlebub, Regressives, Leftists, Lucifer, whatever.

Nation of Islam, regular Islamic Caliphate Shia and Sunni.

European multi cultural invasion and rape replacement policies of populations which don’t reproduce for welfare balance.

All kinds of names, all describing the same evil and tendrils.

As for reproductive whatever, I presume they are referring to Ashcroft blocking Planned Profit on “no parental notification”. This allows PP to abort the kids of 13-17 year olds, without notifying their parents that the kid is being serially raped by some child molestor or rapist.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/462/476.html

The thing about Leftists is that they will often mention defeats they regret or hate, even decades later. Pinochet is a good example, he killed a lot of the Left’s death squad and allies, with great effect. Bush II, in his administration, was greatly hated and feared for similar reasons, as Bush II was killing too many of the Left’s Islamic allies.

Liberals are their “useful idiots”.

No, that’s a mistake you make because of your past association with Demoncrats, GB.

A liberal is defined as someone who believes in liberty, of some sort, and the only ones that are useful idiots are the ones that believe in sexual liberation or the power of decadence. A person who believes in free will and practices that, is the very opposite of a useful tool.

Thus when you recognize them as being liberals, GB, you are falling for their distortion first and foremost. They are zombies, they do not even understand liberty to begin with.

Regarding Brian G. If Ben G was serious (a bit strident and not very subtle in his set up if Ashcroft ‘Minion of Satan and all evil in the world’) he wasn’t brilliant at all. IMO

Have a great Fourth of July!

Without getting into the legal issues, I can tell that Hillary is too dumb to be president. The character and criminal issues are just icing on a rotten cake.