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		By: Steve57		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/24/a-few-random-observations-about-the-brexit-vote-and-its-aftermath/#comment-1314195</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2016 09:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[London Trader said:

&quot;Not sure the polls got this one wrong.&quot; 

I believe I know one reason. If the press et al accuses the &quot;Leave&quot; faction of being nothing more than irrational, uneducated, stupid xenophobic racists they aren&#039;t likely to be honest with pollsters about how they intend to vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London Trader said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not sure the polls got this one wrong.&#8221; </p>
<p>I believe I know one reason. If the press et al accuses the &#8220;Leave&#8221; faction of being nothing more than irrational, uneducated, stupid xenophobic racists they aren&#8217;t likely to be honest with pollsters about how they intend to vote.</p>
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		By: Bob_CA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/24/a-few-random-observations-about-the-brexit-vote-and-its-aftermath/#comment-1311323</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Junius, another economic factor against separation is that the North sea oil is worth a lot less now than it did in 2014. 

Another economic issue is what happens to the Scot&#039;s share of the UK national debt if they leave? I bet they will try to stick the rest of the UK with it and but is there anything they can do about it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junius, another economic factor against separation is that the North sea oil is worth a lot less now than it did in 2014. </p>
<p>Another economic issue is what happens to the Scot&#8217;s share of the UK national debt if they leave? I bet they will try to stick the rest of the UK with it and but is there anything they can do about it?</p>
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		By: Junius		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Junius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talk of Scottish independence may be over done. Four in 10 Scots voted Leave. And voter turn out in Scotland was noticeably lower than in England. Two thirds of Scottish &quot;exports&quot; go to the rest of the UK.  
The EU doesn&#039;t look nearly as rosy now as it did in 2014 when the Scots voted to stay in the UK. The Scots merged with the English for economic reasons in the first place. Odds are they&#039;ll stay with the English for the same reasons. 
Obvious that pictures of uncontrolled immigration and the resulting chaos from the continent got the attention of the butchers, the bakers and the candlestick makers in the Shires.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk of Scottish independence may be over done. Four in 10 Scots voted Leave. And voter turn out in Scotland was noticeably lower than in England. Two thirds of Scottish &#8220;exports&#8221; go to the rest of the UK.<br />
The EU doesn&#8217;t look nearly as rosy now as it did in 2014 when the Scots voted to stay in the UK. The Scots merged with the English for economic reasons in the first place. Odds are they&#8217;ll stay with the English for the same reasons.<br />
Obvious that pictures of uncontrolled immigration and the resulting chaos from the continent got the attention of the butchers, the bakers and the candlestick makers in the Shires.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/24/a-few-random-observations-about-the-brexit-vote-and-its-aftermath/#comment-1306963</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob_CA:

I suspect it&#039;s a number of things.  Young people do tend to be quite a bit more to the left.  Membership in the EU is also &lt;i&gt;all they&#039;ve ever known&lt;/i&gt;, and I think that&#039;s quite important, too.  They have no memory of another type of Britain, another type of sovereignty, so I imagine it&#039;s a lot less important to them.  

It is also possible (although I don&#039;t have stats on this) that young voters in Britain have different demographics than older ones.  They probably are more in favor of immigration from third-world countries, since they are more likely to be immigrants or the children of immigrants themselves? As I said, that&#039;s a guess on my part, however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob_CA:</p>
<p>I suspect it&#8217;s a number of things.  Young people do tend to be quite a bit more to the left.  Membership in the EU is also <i>all they&#8217;ve ever known</i>, and I think that&#8217;s quite important, too.  They have no memory of another type of Britain, another type of sovereignty, so I imagine it&#8217;s a lot less important to them.  </p>
<p>It is also possible (although I don&#8217;t have stats on this) that young voters in Britain have different demographics than older ones.  They probably are more in favor of immigration from third-world countries, since they are more likely to be immigrants or the children of immigrants themselves? As I said, that&#8217;s a guess on my part, however.</p>
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		By: Bob_CA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Random thoughts about the Brexit election:

According to Politico.eu &quot;Three quarters of British voters aged 24 and under voted against Brexit.&quot;
What is the reason for this split? Does it reflect a Left/Right split where most youths are Leftists or is there some other reason?

I admit I am woefully ignorant of English history but how is it so easy for Scotland to demand an election to separate from the United Kingdom? We fought a bloody civil war about this. If it were this easy here in the US would the Red and Blue states separate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts about the Brexit election:</p>
<p>According to Politico.eu &#8220;Three quarters of British voters aged 24 and under voted against Brexit.&#8221;<br />
What is the reason for this split? Does it reflect a Left/Right split where most youths are Leftists or is there some other reason?</p>
<p>I admit I am woefully ignorant of English history but how is it so easy for Scotland to demand an election to separate from the United Kingdom? We fought a bloody civil war about this. If it were this easy here in the US would the Red and Blue states separate?</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob,

For half the human race, security is of far more importance than self-determination. Fear of failure is &lt;b&gt;yuge&lt;/b&gt;. 

Also, the liberty of self-determination provides no scapegoats, only a mirror. Most haven&#039;t the internal fortitude to unflinchingly look in the mirror. 

Even fewer see failure as a ladder of lessons, necessary  to real achievement. Lincoln failed to win election more often than he succeeded. Edison tried 9000 unsuitable materials before he found a suitable filament.

Only &quot;a long train of abuses&quot;, that promises intolerable tyranny can make the majority of men choose &quot;liberty or death&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>For half the human race, security is of far more importance than self-determination. Fear of failure is <b>yuge</b>. </p>
<p>Also, the liberty of self-determination provides no scapegoats, only a mirror. Most haven&#8217;t the internal fortitude to unflinchingly look in the mirror. </p>
<p>Even fewer see failure as a ladder of lessons, necessary  to real achievement. Lincoln failed to win election more often than he succeeded. Edison tried 9000 unsuitable materials before he found a suitable filament.</p>
<p>Only &#8220;a long train of abuses&#8221;, that promises intolerable tyranny can make the majority of men choose &#8220;liberty or death&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dodger:
&lt;b&gt;Appearing on Breitbart Radio Nigel Farage tells Stephen K. Bannon that President Obama’s visit to the UK (telling the people to vote Remain) offended a lot of British and backfired on the Remain campaign:&lt;/b&gt;

I am reminded of the Guardian&#039;s 2004 &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/18/uselections2004.usa2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clark County, Ohio&lt;/a&gt; campaign, where the Guardian enlisted Brits to write Kerry-supporting letters to  residents in the county.
   &lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Limey assholes
Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from the US.

&lt;i&gt;Dear wonderful, loving friends from abroad,
We Ohioans are an ornery sort and don&#039;t take meddling well, even if it comes from people we admire and with their sincere goodwill. We are a fairly closed community overall. In my town of Springfield, I feel that there are some that consider people from the nearby cities of Columbus or Dayton, as &quot;foreigners&quot;- let alone someone from outside our country.
Springfield, Ohio

Have you not noticed that Americans don&#039;t give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don&#039;t. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.
Wading River, NY   &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Rather similar reaction, it would appear.


 &lt;i&gt;Bob From Virginia&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;For the life of me I cannot understand why 48% wanted to stay in the EU? Didn’t they realize that they were surrendering their freedoms?&lt;/b&gt;
Brits under 30 voted for Remain. Many who did so later stated that  the EU &quot;kept us out of war.&quot; 

Had the EU just been a customs union, without the micro-controls of unelected Brussels bureaucrats, there would not have been such support for the Leave vote. Without the Brussels bureaucrats, I doubt the vote to Leave would have even come up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodger:<br />
<b>Appearing on Breitbart Radio Nigel Farage tells Stephen K. Bannon that President Obama’s visit to the UK (telling the people to vote Remain) offended a lot of British and backfired on the Remain campaign:</b></p>
<p>I am reminded of the Guardian&#8217;s 2004 <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/18/uselections2004.usa2" rel="nofollow">Clark County, Ohio</a> campaign, where the Guardian enlisted Brits to write Kerry-supporting letters to  residents in the county.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Limey assholes<br />
Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from the US.</p>
<p><i>Dear wonderful, loving friends from abroad,<br />
We Ohioans are an ornery sort and don&#8217;t take meddling well, even if it comes from people we admire and with their sincere goodwill. We are a fairly closed community overall. In my town of Springfield, I feel that there are some that consider people from the nearby cities of Columbus or Dayton, as &#8220;foreigners&#8221;- let alone someone from outside our country.<br />
Springfield, Ohio</p>
<p>Have you not noticed that Americans don&#8217;t give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies &#8230; I don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don&#8217;t. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah &#8211; and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.<br />
Wading River, NY   </i></p></blockquote>
<p>Rather similar reaction, it would appear.</p>
<p> <i>Bob From Virginia</i><br />
<b>For the life of me I cannot understand why 48% wanted to stay in the EU? Didn’t they realize that they were surrendering their freedoms?</b><br />
Brits under 30 voted for Remain. Many who did so later stated that  the EU &#8220;kept us out of war.&#8221; </p>
<p>Had the EU just been a customs union, without the micro-controls of unelected Brussels bureaucrats, there would not have been such support for the Leave vote. Without the Brussels bureaucrats, I doubt the vote to Leave would have even come up.</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 07:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the life of me I cannot understand why 48% wanted to stay in the EU?  Didn&#039;t they realize that they were surrendering their freedoms?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the life of me I cannot understand why 48% wanted to stay in the EU?  Didn&#8217;t they realize that they were surrendering their freedoms?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 05:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Could this be Soros again?&lt;/b&gt;

No, it&#039;s probably some other market cartels at work. If it was Soros, you would have seen it tank BEFORE the elections. Just like in 2008.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Could this be Soros again?</b></p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s probably some other market cartels at work. If it was Soros, you would have seen it tank BEFORE the elections. Just like in 2008.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 05:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;God sends messages in many forms. You’re just not listening. God is talking, but you’re eyes and ears are closed.&lt;/b&gt;

God has been telling you, Art, to get away from Leftists and your academic &quot;pension&quot; for years if not decades now.

People that refuse to listen because &quot;my pension&quot;, isn&#039;t worthy of lecturing others about what God means, do you understand what that means, Art.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>God sends messages in many forms. You’re just not listening. God is talking, but you’re eyes and ears are closed.</b></p>
<p>God has been telling you, Art, to get away from Leftists and your academic &#8220;pension&#8221; for years if not decades now.</p>
<p>People that refuse to listen because &#8220;my pension&#8221;, isn&#8217;t worthy of lecturing others about what God means, do you understand what that means, Art.</p>
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